Oceaneer's Lab/The worst 25 mins of my Life

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Oceaneer's Lab/The worst 25 mins of my life!

Back on board from our wonderful morning swimming with the Dolphins at Nassau, DD (9) decided that she wanted to go to the Club. We had eaten our late lunch, showered and changed clothes before heading to Deck 5 and the Club. DD, Kayla, had not been there before, so when we arrived (4:20ish) the friendly club guy started to check her in, then said that she would have to go up to Deck 9 since the 8-9 year olds were eating DINNER! Well, of course she wasn't hungry, so we said we would come back in an hour. Nice guy said okay and we left.

We just rested and watched a Dis Movie on TV for the next hour. Kayla could hardly wait to finally get to the club and start meeting some kids her age! I gave her permission to go from Deck 2 (our room) to Deck 5 alone (she's 9!) and check herself in.

Okay, now begins the nightmare.

My daughter left, all happy! About 30 mins. later I started to fret over whether she had gotten there or not (Silly, the girl is extremely reliable and very mature.). Finally the "what ifs" got the best of me and I decided to phone the club and confirm arrrival. Nice guy who had been at the desk earlier answered the phone and confirmed that Kayla, an 8-9, was indeed in the club.

Reassured, Grandma and I sat out to do our thing for awhile. Kayla had been given sign-out privileges with the HIGHLIGHTED ON THE FORM INSTRUCTIONS that I was to be beeped FIRST any time she left. Okay, I swing by the club a couple of hours+ later to pick her up/change clothes for dinner. Grandma heads on down to the stateroom.

I arrive at the club. The nice guy who had been there earlier is no longer on duty. Nice girl checks the computer and informs me that Kayla IS NOT THERE! Says she checked herself out at 4:30 pm!

I reply that she was not there at 4:30 pm. That since the club was at dinner, she went to our room with us until about an hour later when she left the room and returned to the club.The girl argued that Kayla had sign out privileges and SHE had signed herself out. I said no, not at that time, she was with me....and besides, I WAS TO BE BEEPED FIRST even if that had been possible to occur, which it wasn't since she was with me at that time.

They just latched on to the idea that she had sign out privileges and they did not HAVE to beep me first unless SHE told them to----all this inspite of the fact that it was written otherwise on the club registration form. They were insistant that Kayla had come down, checked in, then checked out at 4:30 pm. Again I stated she was with me at 4:30 pm. Didn't leave to come to the club until an hour later. It was like they just did NOT HEAR!

No, they say. She NEVER MADE IT to the club. Nope they haven't seen her! OKAY, I'M BEYOND PANIC.

My kid started from my room and never made it to deck 5 they tell me! She's lost. Been lost for hours out there somewhere. ONLY, this is not possible for her to just go roam'in. If you knew my RULES-ARE-GOD kid, you would know that it is just INCONCEIVABLE for her NOT to have followed the rule to go straight there and sign it. Especially since it was her first "independent foray" and she was on-trial for doing it just right and thus getting the privilege again.

All this went swimming through my head and I knew that if Kayla was not there it was not of her own free will. Someone/Something had interferred in her being where she had set out to go. Dire deeds of the most horrible nature were crashing through my head as I headed back to the room to see if there was a note and to tell Grandma! Grandma agreed to stay in the room (no note) and wait for a phone call or for Kayla.

Panic, total panic! I ran back to the club, only to be told they were putting out a ship-wide alarm for Kayla---what was she wearing; what did she look like?

Dear God in Heaven, this is just not happening! They said they had checked with the 8-9's CM in the movie theater and Kayla was not there!!!

I could not just sit still! I told them to page me and I was going to Deck 9---Scoops that she loves---still I knew this is NOT Kayla behavior and I knew it was futile, but I had to do something. Dear God, I prayed, please keep my baby safe. Please God, keep her safe and free from harm.....over and over....tears pouring down my face all the while visualizing someone doing horrible things and throwing her overboard.

I ran to the side of the ship and actually looked overboard. Nothing but endless sea. Went to Scoops, and while I was there the beeper went off. Anticipating and Dreading all at the same time, I checked the message: Go to a ship phone and call this number. My heart would not stop pounding. I raced inside, called, and the club people said she had been found safe and sound in the movie theater with the other 8-9's. I thanked them; I thanked God; and trembling so hard I could hardly walk, raced down the steps to the movie floor.

Realizing that Kayla had no clue what was going on, I tried not to run. I tried not to cry. I tried......but when I saw her standing with the Club people I just broke down, grabbed her and hugged her so hard the poor child thought her Mother had lost her mind!

"Mom! MOM! What's wrong?" "Why are you crying? What's happened!?" I didn't want to scare her any more so I started laughing that kinda hysterical laugh and hugged her and said "Nothing baby. Mommy was lost and couldn't find you. I love you baby."

Bewildered, "I love you too Mom. MOM! Don't cry."

I thanked them for finding her, grabbed her and left to get back to Grandma as soon as possible. The Club had contacted the room and Grandma already knew that Kayla was all right! She grabbed the poor kid too and hugged and hugged her.

I asked Kayla what could have happened that they didn't know she was there.

This is Kayla's story:

She left our room and went up to the Club. The nice guy from earlier was there and said the kids were now down at the movie theater and she would have to go there. He gave her directions (she's 9, this is a huge ship, I would have preferred that she be taken there like all the other kids in the club who had been escorted there....but....) Okay, she makes her way to the movie theater without any problem.

She goes inside and walks up to the person in the yellow shirt and says, "I'm Kayla (last name) and I'd like to check in. My room is 2064." The CM says "Stand back, please. I have to get all these kids seated first."

Kayla moves back as the kids file by and are seated in the theater. Kayla says the CM keeps bumping her and bumping her back so she moves as far out of the way as she can. When she thought the CM was finished seating everyone, Kayla said she went up and said again, "I'm Kayla and my room is 2064." Kayla said the CM just turned and walked off!! Kayla waited, assuming that the CM needed the clipboard or something, but when no one returned, she didn't know what to do, so she sat down with the other kids and watched the show.

Now, remember. I called 30 mins after Kayla left for the Club and was assured by the nice guy at the desk that Kayla WAS IN THE CLUB. He didn't say movies, but apparently this was the guy who sent Kayla down to the movie theater. He didn't sign her in either, but HE KNEW she was there since he assured me that she was when I called.

The CM at the theater dropped the ball badly. For hours my child was with the group at the theater, but apparently not under anyone's supervision, though Kayla thought she was. She had done everything she had been told to do and so Kayla believed that she was "IN" the club. She was safe and I thank God for that, but essentially, she had been shoved out of the way and left to figure out what to do on her own.

This is just unforgivable......I entrusted the most precious treasure of my old life (I'm in my 50's and she was a gift from God, literally) to Disney and these young people who were proclaimed to be wonderfully responsible and totally child centered. ON THIS DAY, THIS PERSON was neither.

For 20+ minutes I thought my child was dead. Gone. And for 20+ minutes life had no meaning for me. For that brief time I knew what it was like to be Amber Haggerman's (Amber Alert) mom. I don't know how they went on.

Our story ends well and Kayla did go back to the club again where she had a good time. I needed to face down my fears and allow her to go. I needed for her to have that independence and feel good about herself. But, even though the sign-out privilege had nothing to do with her not being signed in, I recanted those. I know my child. She would have been fine and done everything exactly as directed---it's who she is. It was the Club I could no longer trust to keep track of her signing in's/outs. She would sign out with me. Period.

May God Be With Anyone Who Has Had To Go
 
HOw awful for you! I can only imagine what those 20+ min were like. I have "lost" mine in a store for what seemed like forever but probably was only 30 sec to 1 min and know what that felt like but on a ship at sea, I don't even want to think about it. Glad she was found safe and sound and really had no idea what was going on. 9 is such a hard age, my DS is 9, they want to be so grown up but you know they still need some supervision.
 
I am so sorry this happened to you. Having your child lost, even for a short period of time, is one of the worst experiences a parent can have!

I hope you explained what happened to someone in charge at the Club/Lab. These lapses in security need to be brought to DCL's attention.
 

OMG! What a terrible thing to have to go through! Just reading your post was giving me a horrible anxiety. Thank God Kayla was fine.
I think that CM should be seriously reprimanded. This person is not careful enough with kids! I would personally find out who he is and tell him what a big mistake he made at the theater.
Wow, my heart is still racing!
 
WOW! This is my worst fear re: he club. I'm so afraid My kids will some how fall through the cracks and I won't know. I'm so glad Kayla was found safe and oblivious. My DD is 10 and DS is 8 is tough to let them have some independence. Glad everything ended well!!!!
 
So glad that everything turned out okay. Anyone with a child can imagine how scared you were.

Our table mates had a similar experience on our November cruise. Their 10 year old daughter had sign out privileges but hadn't signed herself out for the first 6 days of the cruise. The night of the kids show she signed herself out after the show and figured she'd just join up with her parents as they left the theater. Not a chance - with so many people leaving at the same time.

The Mom went to get the younger brother - quite a wait to sign him out at that time. Then she went to the club to get her daughter and found out she wasn't there. Came to dinner with the son - expecting to find her daughter had been picked up by the Dad. Nope .... Mom, Dad and son, but no daughter. Meanwhile it has been probably 20 minutes (or more) since the poor girl signed herself out - and didn't know which restaurant we had that night. Of course, everyone was frantic. Mom went to check the room, Dad went to guest services. She wasn't in the room or the club. PANIC sets in.

The daughter waited for everyone to leave the theater - looking for her parents. Then went to the cabin to see if they were there. Probably just wandered around looking for the restaurant or figuring out what to do. Finally she went back to the club and signed herself back in because that's where she was last supposed to be. When she did that ... they paged her parents. It was a very scary 20 minutes or so for her parents and 40 minutes for her!!

My son is 5 so it's a few years before he gets sign out privileges - like maybe 20. :D

Diane
 
Thank Goodness she was alright!! My heart was pounding as I was reading your post.

That is why we NEVER let our DD13 out of our sight for along period of time while we are on the ship. You do not know the Disney cruise members or the people that are cruising with you. Something weird could happen and then she could be gone in a flash. Our DD is very responsible and listens to rules but I have no idea who the other people are on the ship. We have been on 7 cruises and the first time the Lab said she could check herself out - we said - no, thank you.

We have seen too many children with too much freedom hanging out on the steps kissing and who knows what! We see them in the elevators being obnoxious and pushing all the buttons with no parents in sight. We do not go on vacation to babysit other people's children.

In fact, when my DD was 10 and in the Lab, she didn't like it because the kids were crazy and unruly - she understood why they were in the lab because their parents didn't want to be around them.

Kayla sounds alot like my DD at that age - responsible -it was not her fault she was lost -it was the Lab and the members running the show!! Which is sad if a 9 y. old is more responsible than the adults. :smooth:

I hope parents will stop and think before allowing their children "freedom" on the ship after reading your story.

I'm soooooo glad she was OK and found safely! :Pinkbounc
 
Wow how scary!! I hope others who think that at 8 or 9 these kids should be allowed to sign themselves in and out will read this and rethink it!
 
aprilgail2 said:
Wow how scary!! I hope others who think that at 8 or 9 these kids should be allowed to sign themselves in and out will read this and rethink it!


I agree. I'm so sorry that the OP went through this. Unfortunately, I know how scary it is have a lost child....thankfully our experience (not on the ship) had a happy ending too. I hope DCL deals with the lapses that you experienced. Something obviously wasn't handled correctly and it needs to be addressed.

My son will be 8 for our next cruise. He's mature and he knows his way around the ship better than I do. I'm not giving him sign out priviledges. In another thread I saw a few people say that they won't "live in fear." My decision is not fear based. I don't think you have to be paranoid to feel that there are too many things that could go wrong and that an 8 yr old might not be able to view the big picture and make the right decisions in every situation. Leaving an 8 yr old on his own at home would land me in jail. I don't see why I'd feel better about him being on his own away from home.

Jess
 
Sounds like a horrible experience. This is exactly why my son who will be turning 9 right before our cruise in June will NOT have signout privileges. The situation you described would be my worst nightmare.

I'm glad she's OK!

SharonK
 
I can honestly say I can't imagine how scared you must have been. I was mortified just reading about it. There was another thread recently about 8 and 9 year olds checking themselves out and this is exactly one of those situations that makes me realize I am right in not even thinking about my 9 year old daughter(very mature, intellligent, etc) checking herself out. Way too many variables involved. I wouldn't even think about letting her alone in a mall let alone a ship with pools, ocean, strangers etc. Thank God your daughter was ok and not scared for any reason. Thanks for sharing your story!!! :D
 
see i would have forgotten that i am a profession, taken off the ship and sent to jail because i would have slapped the hell out of all of them, that is the one thing you do not screw around with, with everything going on in the world today, i am mad just typing this post-lol
i am glad you found each other did they do anything for you
 
Whoo, I just completely re-lived the anxiety of losing my DD10 on top of a packed empire state building on our first trip to NY. I stopped to videotape for a minute, turned to speak to her and she was gone. Late at night, strange city. I started searching, couldn't find her, minutes ticking by... trying to get help, very few of the workers spoke english. I start screaming for security, stop the elevators etc. I'll never forget the woman worker kind of rolling her eyes saying, "She IS 10 ma'm". I said she might be 10 but if someone stuck a knife in her back and told her to board the elevator, I'm not sure she wouldn't. I was having all the horrible visuals, police were called in, found her 35 minutes later. The place was just so mobbed that we just kept getting lost in the crowd, missing each other. The absolute WORST 35 minutes of my life. As you, I was sobbing hysterically when I laid eyes on her. I felt for you every second of your story. Thank God, happy ending for you, happy ending for me. Some are not so lucky. I think I'll set up some careful rules regarding sign in and sign out for our upcoming cruise. Thanks for posting.

Jenn
 
I am glad you posted too. Although my son will be 21 when we cruise and I won't have to worry about this, just reading other people's reports about their children at such a young age signing in and out by themselves seems pretty irresponsible in these days even if it is a Disney ship. I would definately worry!
 
I lost my son in the World of Disney store at WDW when he was 8 for about 20 minutes and I can imagine the horror you were feeling!!

After I found her I would have gone crazy on the CM who never signed her in.


Thank goodness it all turned out okay!!
 
I read thru this thread waiting for a sane response and have yet to see it, so here goes...

Quite simply - sign out priviledges mean just that, that your child can sign themselves out. Say what you want about contingencies ("page me first"), if you check the sign out priviledge box (or however it's done) then you absolutely need to a) be comfortable with your child being alone on the ship and b) have a communication plan worked out with the child.

I have a DD9 and DS11 and will be cruising with them in March along with DW. They will have sign out priviledges and will be given a clear set of rules to follow (e.g., stop first at the cabin to leave a note where they're going, remain on best behavior, etc.) with noncompliance resulting in having to spend the rest of the cruise with us or in the cabin. They're both decent, friendly, responsible kids who have the sense to seek out a person in authority if they're lost or otherwise frightened or in trouble. This is a Disney cruise ship not New York City we're talking about. They need to start learning how to handle themselves independently and this (a controlled, well-monitored environment) is an excellent place to do so.

If you don't feel that your child can handle themselves on the ship alone, or that you don't feel comfortable with the setup, then don't give them sign-out priviledges.
 
I don't think the issue is whether or not the child should have had sign-out priviledges. The problem was with the lack of responsibility of the CMs to follow the proper procedures where this particular child was concerned. Not only did they not check her in when they were supposed to, they also compounded the problem by having incorrect information about the original contact with the child and her mother, and the false information given to the mother that the child was in the club, which she was not. They just plain fumbled the ball on this one.
 
jhorstma said:
I read thru this thread waiting for a sane response and have yet to see it, so here goes...

Quite simply - sign out priviledges mean just that, that your child can sign themselves out. Say what you want about contingencies ("page me first"), if you check the sign out priviledge box (or however it's done) then you absolutely need to a) be comfortable with your child being alone on the ship and b) have a communication plan worked out with the child.

I have a DD9 and DS11 and will be cruising with them in March along with DW. They will have sign out priviledges and will be given a clear set of rules to follow (e.g., stop first at the cabin to leave a note where they're going, remain on best behavior, etc.) with noncompliance resulting in having to spend the rest of the cruise with us or in the cabin. They're both decent, friendly, responsible kids who have the sense to seek out a person in authority if they're lost or otherwise frightened or in trouble. This is a Disney cruise ship not New York City we're talking about. They need to start learning how to handle themselves independently and this (a controlled, well-monitored environment) is an excellent place to do so.

If you don't feel that your child can handle themselves on the ship alone, or that you don't feel comfortable with the setup, then don't give them sign-out priviledges.


i am glad you said that, since she did not sign out, the issue of signing out is not relevant, now is it?
 
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