Obama "Lowering expectations?"

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http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/31/obama-lays-plans-kill-expectations-election-victory/


Obama Lays Plans to Kill Expectations After Election Victory
Confident in an Election Day win, the campaign looks to lower supporters' expectations on concerns their hopes of 'change' are unrealistic, a senior aide says

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By Tim Reid, The Times of London

Barack Obama's senior advisers have drawn up plans to lower expectations for his presidency if he wins next week's election, amid concerns that many of his euphoric supporters are harboring unrealistic hopes of what he can achieve.

The sudden financial crisis and the prospect of a deep and painful recession have increased the urgency inside the Obama team to bring people down to earth, after a campaign in which his soaring rhetoric and promises of "hope" and "change" are now confronted with the reality of a stricken economy.

One senior adviser told The Times that the first few weeks of the transition, immediately after the election, were critical, "so there's not a vast mood swing from exhilaration and euphoria to despair."

The aide said that Obama himself was the first to realize that expectations risked being inflated.

In an interview with a Colorado radio station, Obama appeared to be engaged already in expectation lowering. Asked about his goals for the first hundred days, he said he would need more time to tackle such big and costly issues as health care reform, global warming and Iraq.

"The first hundred days is going to be important, but it's probably going to be the first thousand days that makes the difference," he said. He has also been reminding crowds in recent days how "hard" it will be to achieve his goals, and that it will take time.
"I won't stand here and pretend that any of this will be easy -- especially now," Obama told a rally in Sarasota, Florida, yesterday, citing "the cost of this economic crisis, and the cost of the war in Iraq." Obama's transition team is headed by John Podesta, a Washington veteran and a former chief-of-staff to Bill Clinton. He has spent months overseeing a virtual Democratic government-in-exile to plan a smooth transition should Obama emerge victorious next week.

The plans are so far advanced that an Obama Cabinet has been largely decided upon, with the expectation that most of his senior appointments could be announced shortly after election
 
Reminding people that change will take time is not lowering expectations.
 
wait, this guy is writing from London?

We are under no illusions about how hard it will be to clean up the mess left from the last administration.
 
Of course. Only the most naive of the Obama voters believes in his promises. Everyone else knows that he will raise taxes on most everyone.
 

It is when the message for months has been simply: Vote for Change.

The message was not "Vote for Immediate Change."

Have you listened to him speak?

I have been at a rally and have watched him over the months...and he has consistently said that change will take time.

Big messes take longer to clean up.
 
Please. What a load of bunk. Every campaign makes plans for what will happen after they win. They do not go "Gee, we won, now what?"...
 
Of course. Only the most naive of the Obama voters believes in his promises. Everyone else knows that he will raise taxes on most everyone.

Only the most naive of the McCain / Palin voters believes in their promises. Everyone else knows that they will go back on them in a hearbeat...
 
Well, at least he is doing what he said he was going to do. He is going to change and change and then change again. MY goodness, I'm dizzy. Where are we going, what are we doing, what do I believe in .... just keep changing .... no one will notice.
 
ABC's Jake Tapper calls him "Obama Claus"

Once you get past the soaring oratory, to experience a speech by Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., is to be hit with an astoundingly lengthy list of promises.

"I don't know how any reasonable person" could think he'd really be able to accomplish everything he's pledging to do, said the mother-in-law of a colleague, a Missouri woman who intends to vote for Obama.

Just today in Sarasota, Fla., the Democratic presidential nominee said that he'd:

"give a tax break to 95 percent of Americans who work every day and get taxes taken out of their paycheck every week";

"eliminate income taxes on Social Security for seniors making under $50,000

""give homeowners and working parents additional tax breaks";

not increase taxes on anyone if they "make under $250,000; you will not see your taxes increase by a single dime –- not your income taxes, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains tax";

"end those breaks to companies that ship jobs overseas";

"give tax breaks to companies that invest right here in the United States";

"eliminate capital gains taxes for small businesses and start-up companies that are the engine of job creation in this country";

"create two million new jobs by rebuilding our crumbling roads, and bridges, and schools -- by laying broadband lines to reach every corner of the country";

"invest $15 billion a year in renewable sources of energy to create five million new energy jobs over the next decade";

"reopen old factories, old plants, to build solar panels, and wind turbines";
build "a new electricity grid";

"build the fuel efficient cars of tomorrow";

"eliminate the oil we import from the Middle East in 10 years";

"lower premiums" for those who already have health insurance;

"if you don't have health insurance, you'll be able to get the same kind of health insurance that members of Congress give themselves";

"end discrimination by insurance companies to the sick and those who need care the most";

"invest in early childhood education";

"recruit an army of new teachers";

"pay our teachers higher salaries, give them more support. But ... also demand higher standards and more accountability";

"make a deal with every young person who's here and every young person in America: If you are willing to commit yourself to national service, whether it's serving in our military or in the Peace Corps, working in a veterans home or a homeless shelter, then we will guarantee that you can afford to go to college no ifs ands or buts";

"stop spending $10 billion a month in Iraq whole the Iraqis have a huge surplus";

"end this war in Iraq";

"finish the fight and snuff out al Qaeda and bin Laden";

"increase our ground troops and our investments in the finest fighting force in the world";

"invest in 21st century technologies so that our men and women have the best training and equipment when they deploy into combat and the care and benefits they have earned when they come home";

"No more homeless veterans"; and

"no more fighting for disability payments."

This on top of his 30-minute infomercial last night, and the myriad other pledges and promises he's made throughout the last 21 months.

It's quite a list!

He does call for some sacrifices, though nothing that would equal the cost of these measures.

"Washington is going to have to tighten its belt. It's going to have to put off spending on things we don't need. As president, I'm gonna go through the federal budget, line-by-line, and we're going to end programs that we don't need. We're gonna have to make the ones we do need work better and cost less."
Of course, he'll soon be "asking folks who are making more than a quarter million dollars a year to go back to the tax rate they were paying in the 1990s before the Bush tax cuts."
And in a way of attempting to head off at the pass any criticisms that there's no way the U.S. can afford all this, he says supporters should tell skeptics that ending the war will save the U.S. $10 billion a month.
The AP's Calvin Woodward took a look at Obama's assertion that he's "offered spending cuts above and beyond" what he's pledging to spend, and he concluded that's "accepted only by his partisans. His vow to save money by 'eliminating programs that don't work' masks his failure throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are -- beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq."

Even accepting the savings Obama pledges to bring, the bi-partisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget says Obama will add a net $428 billion to the deficit over the course of his term.

This woman definitely believes in Obama Claus:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ikOxi9yYk
 
Reminding people that change will take time is not lowering expectations.

wait, this guy is writing from London?

We are under no illusions about how hard it will be to clean up the mess left from the last administration.

The message was not "Vote for Immediate Change."

Have you listened to him speak?

I have been at a rally and have watched him over the months...and he has consistently said that change will take time.

Big messes take longer to clean up.

Those pretty much sum up my thoughts. :thumbsup2

Rome wasn't built in a day, and we would be REALLY naive to think that any new president could bring about any real change overnight.
It's a pretty far stretch to say that by warning his constituents that it might take a while equates to backing down or lowering expectations. :rolleyes:
 
Those pretty much sum up my thoughts. :thumbsup2

Rome wasn't built in a day, and we would be REALLY naive to think that any new president could bring about any real change overnight.
It's a pretty far stretch to say that by warning his constituents that it might take a while equates to backing down or lowering expectations. :rolleyes:

True, Rome wasn't built in a day, but many of the factors that caused the great Roman Empire to fall are occuring in our country today. Perhaps we should learn a lesson or two from history.
 
True, Rome wasn't built in a day, but many of the factors that caused the great Roman Empire to fall are occuring in our country today. Perhaps we should learn a lesson or two from history.

I'm not a student of Roman history, but would one of those factors be spending too much money on unnecessary wars?
 
Under Obama's rule, the Dems need not worry about wars since our military will be decimated.

I doubt Obama will cut defense as much as he should, but if somehow he can stop the war in Iraq, and perhaps officially apologize to the Iraqi people, that would go a long way to restoring our national honor and dignity.
 
I doubt Obama will cut defense as much as he should, but if somehow he can stop the war in Iraq, and perhaps officially apologize to the Iraqi people, that would go a long way to restoring our national honor and dignity.

How much should he cut defense spending?
 
How much should he cut defense spending?

That's a good question. I think the next pres should gather the best intelligence regarding the military spending of the rest of the world and use that as a guide. Also the current military strength of foreign nations is important issue to consider. But ending the war alone will save us 10 billion a week, so that's a good place to start. It'll also save us American blood.
 
I doubt Obama will cut defense as much as he should, but if somehow he can stop the war in Iraq, and perhaps officially apologize to the Iraqi people, that would go a long way to restoring our national honor and dignity.

Barney Frank is already working on that and his plans should make a significant dent in our existing military. Our country enjoys honor and dignity today with the exception of those that have 'never been proud of their country'.
Personally, I am proud of our country and our efforts to spread freedom around the world. I especially respect all those in our military whose work and sacrifices have helped make that happen.
Someone earlier in this thread said that Rome was not built in a day and neither will that happen in Iraq, but progress is being made each and every day and the results of that progress will benefit both Iraq and the U.S.
 
That's a good question. I think the next pres should gather the best intelligence regarding the military spending of the rest of the world and use that as a guide. Also the current military strength of foreign nations is important issue to consider. But ending the war alone will save us 10 billion a week, so that's a good place to start. It'll also save us American blood.

Like a percentage of the rest of the world's military spending?

Also, could you please explain the "somehow" in your statement about Obama ending "the war in Iraq"? If he's elected President, he'll be the CIC. The Constitution gives him the sole power to end it immediately, with a simple policy change.
 


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