Obama Ad a Hit!

[Goofyluver]

I don't see a whole lot of difference between spending on advertising and buying votes.

My point is that I would respect a candidate who was DOING SOMETHING about the economy, not just spending-spending-spending. I think most Americans would.

Except he has to spend that money on campaign expenses.

 

[Goofyluver]

I don't think raw numbers are a measure of success for this.

Everyone I talked to pointed out that it was more of the same to them.... hope and change, cange and hope.... Tehy're wholey unimpressed with what he did with the time.

It made them more comfortable in their McCain vote...

So are the raw number of viewers being reported really a measure of success??

Dang those hopeful people wishing for a change. They're so negative.

 

[MrsPete]

He can't do that. That money (including the money donated by me) was donated to the campaign. It would be unethical and illegal to do otherwise with the money. I donated the money to Barack Obama in order to ensure he get elected. I'm glad he's using my money for good.

We disagree on what constitutes "using money for good". You say it's buying TV time. I say it's actually helping the country -- and that would earn him oodles of free TV time, and would get him more votes in the long run.

As for the legalities, I'm sure you're right about that. But legal and right aren't always the same thing.

 

[Goofyluver]

We disagree on what constitutes "using money for good". You say it's buying TV time. I say it's actually helping the country -- and that would earn him oodles of free TV time, and would get him more votes in the long run.

As for the legalities, I'm sure you're right about that. But legal and right aren't always the same thing.

Actually, in this case, legal and right are exactly the same thing. That money is campaign money. He must and should use it for campaign expenses.

 

[TCPluto]

Dang those hopeful people wishing for a change. They're so negative.

I guess you don't have an arguement on how raw numbers is turned into resounding success, huh???

 

[gmboy95]

Actually, in this case, legal and right are exactly the same thing. That money is campaign money. He must and should use it for campaign expenses.

Republican jealousy!!!!!!!!!

 

[stacyp9]

I don't see a whole lot of difference between spending on advertising and buying votes. QUOTE]

I'm sorry you can't see the difference.

 

[MrsPete]

Actually, in this case, legal and right are exactly the same thing. That money is campaign money. He must and should use it for campaign expenses.

It's right to spend millions -- maybe billions -- on campaigns that are essentially out to sling mud at the other guy while at the same time our country is sinking deeper and deeper into debt? I understand your argument about the legality of contributions, and I understand the concept of "you have to spend the money in this pocket on those items only" . . . but on a larger scale, I disagree. We as a country have wasted -- totally and completely wasted -- an enormous amount of resources on this campaign. Resources that could've been put to better use elsewhere.

 

[ChrisFL]

I don't see a whole lot of difference between spending on advertising and buying votes.

huh?

 

[Uncle Remus]

It's right to spend millions -- maybe billions -- on campaigns that are essentially out to sling mud at the other guy while at the same time our country is sinking deeper and deeper into debt? I understand your argument about the legality of contributions, and I understand the concept of "you have to spend the money in this pocket on those items only" . . . but on a larger scale, I disagree. We as a country have wasted -- totally and completely wasted -- an enormous amount of resources on this campaign. Resources that could've been put to better use elsewhere.

Kinda like that Iraq War!

 

[MrsPete]

Republican jealousy!!!!!!!!!

If that was directed at me, I adamently hate both the Democrats AND the Republicans. They are both groups who seek to further their own causes and occasionally consider the American people. I'm registered Independent and am not overly fond of either candidate in this election, though I've decided to vote for McCain in this election. I don't feel that he's all that great a choice, but I think he's more realistic than Obama.

 

[ChrisFL]

It's right to spend millions -- maybe billions -- on campaigns that are essentially out to sling mud at the other guy while at the same time our country is sinking deeper and deeper into debt? I understand your argument about the legality of contributions, and I understand the concept of "you have to spend the money in this pocket on those items only" . . . but on a larger scale, I disagree. We as a country have wasted -- totally and completely wasted -- an enormous amount of resources on this campaign. Resources that could've been put to better use elsewhere.

Funny, that 30 min. ad that Obama had the other day didn't seem like any kind of attack, it was his plan to take our country out of this mess it's in. Whether you agree with his plan or not, it's easy to see what it was.

Just because you disagree with the laws doesn't mean you can disobey them, (unless you're in the Bush administration)

 

[MrsPete]

Kinda like that Iraq War!

You're not altogether wrong there, but I don't think either candidate is at this point able to do much about that. Maybe in the past when they were voting in Congress.

They do, however, control campaign money right now. And as I said, the amounts they're spending are staggering and obscene.

 

[MrsPete]

Just because you disagree with the laws doesn't mean you can disobey them, (unless you're in the Bush administration)

You can find plenty of law-breaking on both sides of the aisle. I don't see that either candidate has any problem with the spending of uber-amounts on campaigns -- it's one of the things I dislike about them both. It's a hint on how they'll handle our money in the future. It's not any different from the way previous politicians have managed their campaign funds, but it is not really good for us, the people.

 

[stacyp9]

You're not altogether wrong there, but I don't think either candidate is at this point able to do much about that. Maybe in the past when they were voting in Congress.

They do, however, control campaign money right now. And as I said, the amounts they're spending are staggering and obscene.

There is an awful lot at stake Mrs. Pete. I support whatever it takes to save this country and from the amount of dollars Obama has rolling in, it seems I am not alone.

 

[Uncle Remus]

You're not altogether wrong there, but I don't think either candidate is at this point able to do much about that. Maybe in the past when they were voting in Congress.

They do, however, control campaign money right now. And as I said, the amounts they're spending are staggering and obscene.

Imagine the wealth of our resources if we coulda spent the Iraq money on jobs, education, housing, the infrastructure, etc and then if both candidates had pooled their money for our future.

Course, Obama would have to be President since he inspired so many folks to make so many repeat donations and beat McCain in that department too.

 

[MrsPete]

There is an awful lot at stake Mrs. Pete. I support whatever it takes to save this country and from the amount of dollars Obama has rolling in, it seems I am not alone.

Sure, he has supporters -- and if he chose to ask them to do something other than toot his horn with those funds, would they follow? If he asked them to use that money to really help some of the problem spots rather than spend it on campaigns, would they do it? Doing so would get him more free TV and more free press than he could ever buy. I'm thinking Kennedy-esque here: Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.

If he affected real change, I'd believe in him. THAT would be doing something to save this country.

 

[MrsPete]

Imagine the wealth of our resources if we coulda spent the Iraq money on jobs, education, housing, the infrastructure, etc and then if both candidates had pooled their money for our future.

I'm not going to disagree with that, though I think it's a matter of degree -- we couldn't have spent literally nothing over there, but we have drug it out and spent a huge amount -- but then I already said that I dislike BOTH parties, and I don't think either one is looking out for our best interests. However, that's a diversion: the topic was campaign spending.

The bottom line is that government spending is rampantly out of control in multiple areas; in the light of that fact, massive campaign spending looks frivolous and luxurious on a level that makes the ancient Romans appear level-headed.

 

[lindalinda]

Sure, he has supporters -- and if he chose to ask them to do something other than toot his horn with those funds, would they follow? If he asked them to use that money to really help some of the problem spots rather than spend it on campaigns, would they do it? Doing so would get him more free TV and more free press than he could ever buy. I'm thinking Kennedy-esque here: Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.

If he affected real change, I'd believe in him. THAT would be doing something to save this country.

Kennedy wasn't Kennedyesque until he was elected. So check back in a few months.

 

[stacyp9]

Sure, he has supporters -- and if he chose to ask them to do something other than toot his horn with those funds, would they follow? If he asked them to use that money to really help some of the problem spots rather than spend it on campaigns, would they do it? Doing so would get him more free TV and more free press than he could ever buy. I'm thinking Kennedy-esque here: Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.

If he affected real change, I'd believe in him. THAT would be doing something to save this country.

No they wouldn't. Our money is going towards his campaign.

You are missing the point. He is doing EXACTLY what his supporters want him to do with OUR money. His supporters want him to do everything he can to win this election. It is then that he can begin to cause change.

Were he do what you suggest, Limbaugh and O'Reilly would be spewing vote buying faster than McCain's blinks while at the same time, he would anger his supporters and probably be brought up on charges. While I appreciate the altruism of your idea, it is one that would only work in Pleasantville.

PS: Obama is not the only cause that I and other supporters support.