NYC trip- how long?

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We are considering a NYC/Niagara Falls trip next summer. Our kids will be 8 and 10, and none of us have ever been to New York.

How many days is best for NYC?
Any must do's? (For sure broadway show, Central Park, and Statue of Liberty)
Best place to stay that won't break the bank, but good location?

Thank you!
 
I would recommend working backwards: do some research on the attractions you want to see and anything else you think you might want to do and then determine how many days you need to do them. Honestly, I think you could spend a month in NYC doing all the touristy things and still not see everything. You can spend DAYS at the Met or any of the other large museums. What are your kids in to? Maybe start there and look at your options.

My DH spent a long weekend in NYC in Feb and we crammed a lot into that time but that's easier to do w 2 adults than when you have kids in tow (we have 3; 9yrs, 6yrs, and 2 yrs and we have not taken them yet). We were there for a Fri-Tues and saw 3 musicals, 1 play, and a cabaret act. And we went to MoMA, Fraunces Tavern, and the Tenement Museum.

MoMA is free on Fri night from 4-8 and that might be a good option bc you can hit the highlights of the museum and with the ages of your kids that might be all you need. But it would be cool for them to see some famous works (Van Gogh, Klimt, Monet, Picasso, etc). If you're in to American history there are some really neat things to see downtown - Fraunces Tavern (there is still a restaurant there as well as the museum) is where revolutionaries would meet and hold meeting prior to the war and it even served as offices for the federal government after the war. It is also where Washington said farewell to his officers at the close of the war. Its really cool to see the intimate places that these amazing historical figures actually stood. I would highly recommend the Tenement Museum. It is located in a 19th century tenement building and they have recontructed what the living quarters would have looked like for the immigrant families that would have lived here. You can look on their site to see which tours they are offering. They offer some options for kids where the guides are dressed in period attire and I've read that its a really great experience for kids because it is so immersive and really brings the history of these people to life. On past trips we have gone to the Guggenheim and the Whitney (both art museums that are very interesting but I wouldn't recommend unless you are really into art) and the Met. The Met is amazing and I could spend forever in there. I think there is a lot there that the kids would like (I know mine would love it). We've also done the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island. We just rode the ferry by the Statue bc we really felt like that was enough to experience it (and I think the statue itself was actaully closed for renovations when we were there) but Ellis Island was extremely interesting and a must for anyone who is interested in the history of immigration.

Unless there is something in particular that you want to see (and even if there is) I would recommend just going to the TKTS booth (there are 2 in Manhatten and 1 in Brooklyn - the one everyone seems to know about is the one in Times Square). You can get tickets that are about 1/2 off to most shows that are not sold out. We saw Hamilton (you will def NOT find tix at TKTS for Hamilton - we are major theater nerds and paid an insane 3rd party broker price to see it but it was worth EVERY. LAST. CENT.), Something Rotten (Very funny but maybe not 100% child appropriate?? Look into the show and see what you think for your kids. Our kids have listened to the cast album and really like it but I don't know if I'd take them to see it yet), Les Miserables (closes at the beginning of Sept), and The Humans (one the Tony for best play this year; very very good not but for kids - nothing graphic or anything, just adult themes). We took our 2 oldest to see a touring production of Wicked in May and they LOVED it - its a great show. Aladdin and Lion King are still on - both safe bets w kids. Waitress is a newer show that is fantastic, but once again, prob too mature for the kiddies. There are several things opening in the coming months so keep an eye on that.

Kids would love Dylan's Candy Bar (our kids have been to the one in Chicago and thought it was paradise) and Serendipity 3 and taking them to Macy's and Bloomingdales would be fun just to see the huge stores.

There are several passes you can get that include admission to a lot of the touristy things for one price. Check into those.

As far as where to stay, I would comb through the deals on Priceline and similar sites and then check reviews for places you are interested in on Yelp and Trip Advisor. We have stayed in a hotel in Times Sqaure that is now called Row NYC (it was the Milford Plaza when we stayed there). Its very trendy and busy but would be convenient for getting to dfferent areas of the city and would be kid-friendly. You can usually get good deals there too. On our last trip we stayed at The Ace on 29th St (still a good central location) and it was great. Very trendy and full of hipsters so take that into account. We also stayed at The Paul (literally like 4 doors down from The Ace - we got snowed in and couldn't get an extra night at The Ace bc they were booked up). It was nice enough but nothing spectacular. Know when you're looking at hotels in NYC that they are generally tiny compared to hotels elsewhere. With 2 kids you may want to consider a suite.

Take advantage of the public transportion - a lot of out of towners are afraid of the subways but I have always felt perfectly safe and I really think its part of the NYC experience. We don't live in area that has public transportation so riding the lines in DC, Chicago, and Atlanta is always one of the things are kids look forward to when we go there.

I haven't been to Niagra Falls in about 20 years (went when I was in high school) and 2 days and a night was plenty of time to see and do what we wanted. They may have more going on up there now, just do some research and see what all there is that you want to do while you're there. 1 day may be plenty for you.

Happy planning! You will love NYC! We are going again this Sept but it will be more of a business trip so I don't know how much we will get to do outside of meetings and such. Just BEING there is enough for me.:love: I might love it as much as WDW but obv for very different reasons!
 
We always stay in Long Island City. Just a couple of metro stops outside of NYC. There is a great deli at the subway stop too.

A lot of companies have free passes for employee families for the museums. Citi does a ton. So be sure to check and see if either of your jobs are corporate sponsors.

Wicked was great. We bought our tickets on release day several (9? 10?) months in advance and got the cheap seats the scalpers normally steal.

For me, NYC is a 3 day thing. I am pretty intolerant to nastiness. The subways are disgusting and a lot of the streets smell like trash.
 
Just to be clear, the TKTS booth is NOT a scalping service: https://www.tdf.org/nyc/7/TKTS-ticket-booths Its a non-profit org that supports the performing arts and makes it possible for many people to have the experience of a Broadway show. If there is something you know you want to see then it is a good idea to buy tickets before hand. But know that you have the option of discounted tix day-of.

I guess its a good idea to prepare yourself for where you are going. NYC has over 8 million ppl in it and as with any large city, there are drawbacks to packing that many ppl into a place. The grit and dirt is part of what makes it what it is. Most of the areas that you would be going to as a tourist are clean and pleasant. If you don't like large cities, you will most likely not enjoy NYC and will not want to spend long there. If you love culture and art and being in the center one of the most important and influential places in the world, you will love it and never want to leave.:-)
 

I took my 11 year old daughter a couple of years ago. We spent 4 nights in NYC. We got to our hotel about noon on the first day and had to leave for the airport about 3 in the afternoon on the last day. We saw our must see items and did not feel rushed doing any of them. There were many items we would have wanted to see, but didn't have a chance. I've stayed near Madison Square Garden and also near Times Square. I liked both locations, but the Times Square area seemed to have more available for my daughter to see. You can find hotel rooms in both areas around $200 a night, but be aware that they will be very small rooms.
 
We always stay in Long Island City. Just a couple of metro stops outside of NYC. .
We stayed at a little Boutique Hotel for a great price which included breakfast in Long Island City. only a couple of blocks from Subway platform and only 5 mins to DT-NYC. We paid 170.00 per night for 3 persons, Me, DH and DS (19years old). The Hotel we stayed at had a Great View of the Skyline of Manhattan (right across river from Chrysler building) and you could go onto the roof top. Some of my favorites were, Grand Central station (ate in the Food court downstairs) and NYC public Library. One of my DS favorites was Nintendo World Store.
 
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Just to be clear, the TKTS booth is NOT a scalping service: https://www.tdf.org/nyc/7/TKTS-ticket-booths Its a non-profit org that supports the performing arts and makes it possible for many people to have the experience of a Broadway show. If there is something you know you want to see then it is a good idea to buy tickets before hand. But know that you have the option of discounted tix day-of.

I guess its a good idea to prepare yourself for where you are going. NYC has over 8 million ppl in it and as with any large city, there are drawbacks to packing that many ppl into a place. The grit and dirt is part of what makes it what it is. Most of the areas that you would be going to as a tourist are clean and pleasant. If you don't like large cities, you will most likely not enjoy NYC and will not want to spend long there. If you love culture and art and being in the center one of the most important and influential places in the world, you will love it and never want to leave.:-)

Right, I used ticketmaster for our Wicked tickets. For an off broadway show, I have used TKTS the same day. But we knew we wanted that show on that particular day so it was bought way in advance.
 
Thank you for all the tips!! We are from Houston so definitely okay with lots of people. :)
 
Will you be driving from NYC to Niagara Falls? Keep in mind that it is about a 7-8 hour drive depending if you are crossing the border or not.
 
There are so many great tours at the Rockefeller Center. One for the NBC studios, one for the plaza itself, one for Radio City. On a recent tour we learned you can go into Christie's to see what is up for auction (aka look at awesome paintings that may never see a museum's light of day) for free.

I second TKTS - This year we got amazing seats (orchestra center) for 1/2 price for something rotten. Plus just being in time sqaure (the TKTS booth that I usually go to) is an awesome experience.

There is the Intrepid Sea, Air and Space museum - it's an old air craft carrier, and the kids may enjoy that.

Also the traditional spots, Empire State Building, Grand Central Station, Ellis Island, Statue of Liberty, Central Park, etc. All great places to see.

ETA: The CityPass looks like a great deal. http://www.citypass.com/new-york?mv_source=intrepid&campaign=visit
 
On my first trip we did 3 days, camping (LOL!) just outside the city in New Jersey. We did similar as you, NYC and Niagara Falls, but we're just over the CA border near Detroit, MI so made a big circle. My dad hates hates hates cities, crowds, walking, cultural things like theater/museums, so mom and I have made 2 more trips since. One was 5 days and another 7. We stayed at a Radisson near the UN and Holiday Inn Express on 35th central-ish east-west wise. Mom's weird about hotels, and this was before discount sites like travelocity had made it big, it was a bid and find out the chain/hotel after booked then so those probably aren't cheap! I am set on staying at one of the Pod hotels next time I go, but they're more solo or college couple focused accommodations than family.

I really like the site nycgo.com for finding all kinds of things to do in the city and for planning. It has info like museum free days, interesting areas, all that. Basically anything you and your kids are interested in, there is something in the city to fit it. As was already mentioned Lion King, Aladdin, and Wicked are probably the best shows right now for families, and you should be able to get tickets for any of those at the txts booth (I like the one in times square too. It's crazy to stand in the center of all that traffic!)
 
I check the TKTS live feed pretty regularly, and I don't think I have ever seen The Lion King, Aladdin, or Wicked at the booths. For those shows, you would need to buy ahead of time. You can check out the tkts website to get an idea of the kinds of shows available. Also, be aware that often you can get a cheaper seat, although not as good of a seat, at the box office for some shows. For example, Les Miz may have half off orchestra seats at the booth, but you can get a ticket for around $50 at the box office. If your goal is to see a show Inexpensively, this may be a better bet. Also check out theater mania and playbill for possible discount codes.

I'm also another one who will enthusiastically recommend the Met. The first time my daughter and I went, she was a teenager and groused about having to go. She loved it, and she has since asked to go again. I think we've been three times now, and still there are new things for us to see.

The subway is not so scary once you get used to it. The good thing is, if you mess up, you can just turn around and try again, as long as you don't exit the station.

I think a mistake that many people, including me at first, make is thinking that all of the city is as crowded and chaotic as the major tourist areas like Times Square. Just walking around in quieter areas is kind of nice, too, to get a whole new perspective on the city.

Eta: also, if you some got some time to kill before seeing a show, Bryant Park is nice.
 
Definitely take a day to explore Central Park. You will be there in summer and there are tons of playground throughout with sprinklers. We live in Manhattan and my kids love the Met, but only in small doses. I recommend just picking a couple of exhibits. Then go to the ancient playground right next door for a break. And have lunch at either Shake Shack, Pizza Beach, or Serafina, all within a couple blocks of the Met. We also love the museum of natural history, directly across the park from the Met. If you go check out the discovery room. (stop there first if it is busy as you may have to get tix to come back later.) There is another shake shack on the west side but the east side has better seating.

I bought a cupcake walking tour on Living Social and my kids absolutely loved it. Can't remember the name but we met in union square and proceeded to sample 6-7 different treats. There was a cookie place and gelato shop in there as well. The guide also gave a little history as we walked. A nice way to see the village for us upper east siders.

We also enjoyed the tenement museum. If you go, Economy Candy is right near by with a massive(and cheap) candy selection. And have lunch afterwards at one of the dumpling shops in Chinatown. I think I spent $12 for lunch for 3 of us.

Some other thoughts:
-Walk the high line.
-One World Observatory
-the shows recommended are all good choices. I want to add School of Rock. Took my 8 and 10 yos and we all loved it.
-Lower part of Central Park: carousel, Central Park zoo and heckscher playground are all near each other, model boat pond/Alice in wonderland statue are a little further up. All are not far from Bloomingdales and Dylan's candy bar.
-See a mets or Yankees game. Easy to take the subway there. And no, don't be afraid to take the subway. Quickest and cheapest way to get around-I use it every day with my kids.

Have fun!!
 
Think of NYC as a trip to WDW. Think about the pace you want to move at, how much you want to see, and how much you can handle. I would start reading tour books now and then create a few lists, plan out your days around major attractions the way you do around ADRs. It also can be budget and can be more expensive depending on what you want to do. Keep in mind that it is not WDW in the sense that you won't easily hop from attraction to attraction. Everything looks small on a map but sidewalks are like roads, lots of traffic and traffic lights to contend with.

As far as attractions everyone has their must do and honestly lots of things people recommend I just don't get. I was talking to a co-worker the other day about how chaotic the department stores can be and how when I go to Saks I make a mad dash to the elevator to get around the mobs of people wandering the beauty counters. I really don't think a 8 or 10 year old will be that taken by "big stores" unless they have a fascination with retail. The time spent to get there, wander around, and leave isn't worth it if you ask me. I love the MET but it is huge and can be a lot of walking, I had a membership two years in a row and can still get cranky by the end of my time there lol. If you go to art museums with your family and enjoy it, then go. If not, skip it and instead do a museum that interests you. I think the museum of Natural History is much more fun for kids (night at the museum anyone?). I work in mid-town and I feel like there are a lot of "must do" tourist things that have an equivalent that is just as great and can be less time (ex. swap Central Park for Bryant Park, shopping in SoHo is much better these days than 5th Ave). Times Square is great to see but it is like a giant shopping mall with nothing that is very NYC other than Broadway shows. Also I stayed in a hotel in Times Square (very pricey too) and found it was incredibly loud at night. If you can stay elsewhere you will have more peaceful nights (LIC is super close for example and very quiet at night). I would pick 2-3 big things to do each day and then use the time in between to wander/explore the area around rather than trying to cram it all in.

I have driven to CA twice (never Niagara Falls). That 7-8 hours can take longer getting out of NYC area with traffic and you need to factor in a stop for food so it can turn into 9-10 hours easy. I personally would think about breaking it down into two days. For ex. leave NYC at lunchtime after spending the morning doing something close to hotel/car rental pickup. Hit halfway point and do a quick dinner plus quite night at motel (maybe they will even have a pool). The next day get up early and arrive in Niagara Falls at about lunch. I would plan out the logistics of starting/ending at Niagara Falls first, and then use the leftover days for NYC. Most tunnels and bridges will be very crowded in the morning due to rush hour (starts as early as 5 and stays jammed until 10:30/11 in some places). You will save time sitting in traffic and stress if you plan to leave around midday.
 
Such great tips!!! My hubby just told me this morning he wants to see a Yankees game for sure. :)

As far as getting to Niagara Falls, I was looking into flying. Seems like tickets are less than $100 per person. We are not road trippers, so renting a car and driving sounds brutal. Plus, we hate Houston traffic....can't imagine driving in NYC traffic.
 
There are so many great tours at the Rockefeller Center. One for the NBC studios, one for the plaza itself, one for Radio City. On a recent tour we learned you can go into Christie's to see what is up for auction (aka look at awesome paintings that may never see a museum's light of day) for free.

I second TKTS - This year we got amazing seats (orchestra center) for 1/2 price for something rotten. Plus just being in time sqaure (the TKTS booth that I usually go to) is an awesome experience.

There is the Intrepid Sea, Air and Space museum - it's an old air craft carrier, and the kids may enjoy that.

Also the traditional spots, Empire State Building, Grand Central Station, Ellis Island, Statue of Liberty, Central Park, etc. All great places to see.

ETA: The CityPass looks like a great deal. http://www.citypass.com/new-york?mv_source=intrepid&campaign=visit


CityPass does look good! Thanks!
 
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The subways are disgusting and a lot of the streets smell like trash.

What nonsense! The subways are old, but they are not disgusting and perfectly safe.

I second going to the TKTS booth in Times Square. Please note you aren't going to find tickets to the most popular shows. One hint, as you face the stairs on the backside of the ticket booths, the line at the left is for plays and the right is for musicals. The plays line is always much shorter. Also, you can have a long wait and in the summer, a very hot wait. Be sure you have drinks and hats before getting in line.

An 8-10 year old might enjoy a visit to the Tenement Museum on the lower East Side.

https://www.tenement.org/

You have to reserve tours in advance. I recommend the Hard Times Tour; lots of interesting discussion of how kids lived during the time. Take a morning tour and then walk over or cab to Katz's Deli for lunch.

You might want to consider a hotel in Jersey City near a PATH train to save some money.
 
As a NYC resident I would have to disagree that our subway system is 'disgusting'. Yes, it may not be eat-off-the-seats but it is far from disgusting. Yes, our streets have a smell to them, with a city as populated as NYC, I suppose it's expected.
 
Just a note that if you want to go to the crown of the Statue of Liberty, those tickets sell out months in advance. I purchased our tickets last month for our trip the first week of December. If you check out the website it will give you an idea of when you should look at buying those tickets. They are not too expensive - I think for four of us it is about $100. That also includes the ferry ride to Ellis Island.

I also would recommend walking the Chelsea High Line - lots to look at and if I remember correctly there are some water fountains you can get wet in.
 













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