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OK, but make sure Chobie agrees first, since PMs are personal.


She did indeed send me a pic of a W-2 with that sum on it. Of course, it didn't have her position on it and an administrator of any school district would be making that sum...:rolleyes1


Yes, there are a small percentage of teachers in the US making a decent salary. But they are few and far between and we all know it.


http://www.aft.org/salary/2003/download/2003Table1.pdf
 
Very true, here In Portsmouth NH 2 experienced teachers would make about 200K with amazing benefits. They must have a masters degree to teach in this city though.

How? And they don't need a master's according to the district website. 20 years with a Ph.D will get you to $67,000. So, two people with Ph.d's with 20 years experience each, each coaching a sport every season and each teaching summer school might get close to that. But the average teacher in your district is making around 40,000.

http://www.cityofportsmouth.com/school/centraloffice/empops.htm
 
She did indeed send me a pic of a W-2 with that sum on it. Of course, it didn't have her position on it and an administrator of any school district would be making that sum...:rolleyes1


Yes, there are a small percentage of teachers in the US making a decent salary. But they are few and far between and we all know it.


http://www.aft.org/salary/2003/download/2003Table1.pdf

WOW!! Funny you didn't say that to me in the PM. At this point, believe what you want... you said you wouldn't believe withough seeing and then I go to the trouble to show you and you make another accusation. At least the others that know high paid Teachers will believe me...you saw the salary schedule yourself, why are you being so obstinate?
 
Attached is the salary schedule for my Sisters school. PM me if you would like to see the W2... Also, that is her base pay for 185 days of work... sounds pretty good to me.

Chobie...my Sister wants to know if you are a bitter underpaid Teacher? She also said to take a look at the salary schedule for Anaheim Union High School District (right next to Disneyland since this is a Disney forum)...they make more then she does. :hippie:

http://www.tvusd.k12.ca.us/HRD/SalarySchedules/07_08/Certificated A.pdf
 

This teacher thing is so OT, but, I am jumping in ! I work for a charter school...I made $83,140 last year. That did include summer school. I don't have a Masters, but plan on getting one this year. Sure, some teachers aren't paid well, but lots of us are pretty darned happy w/ our paychecks.
 
They pay thing is getting kind of weak all.

Almost like a bunch of guys wanting to have a "wee wee" measuring contest. :rotfl2: (btw, I would win) :lmao:

Come on, lets talk about how people afford Disney.trips without going in the poor house
 
Well, DH is the bread winner in this family. I only make $46k... I live in the same area as my Sister...so I am assuming if I was a Teacher I would be making what she is. Oh well, good thing DH brings home the bacon.

You stated Temecula, right?

I took a look at Wikipedia and I know it's not always accurate, but this is what it mentioned:

According to a 2006 estimate, the median income for a household in the city was $71,754, and the median income for a family was $79,042.[18]

It sure sounds like you don't exactly live in a low- to middle - income area. That median income is a lot as it is - wow!

For us we don't go to Disney every year. In fact, the last time I went to Florida was to visit my twin sister a few years ago. We go to Hawaii maybe every 3 years. We usually take road trips. We travel budget - and we live a frugal lifestyle.

We just live below our means. I don't knock anyone for their choices - except if they are taking advantage of government assistance and not being truthful.(ugh!)

As for carrying debt, hmmm. My dad borrowed money to take us (me, my 3 siblings, my parents, and my grandma) to Disneyland when I was 11 years old and that changed my life! :goodvibes
 
Silly me, I'm giving cardiac meds, doing CPR, cleaning poop, taking care of scabies covered, intoxicated rude pts and risking my kids college education at the hands of the next sue happy family-all for less than these teachers...I always wanted to teach!:rotfl: Seriously-thanks to the teachers-you deserve EVERY PENNY!
 
I just looked up our district on the website and this is what they pay:

28,420 for no experience
38,140 for 10 years
45,970 for 20 years


Christine
 
Interesting... in my state:

a beginning teacher with a B.S. degree makes $30,900
maxes at 25+ yrs experience - $44,840

My best friend who teaches the school's computer lab/class (elementary) makes only about $13,000. :(

I feel your pain, problemchild. Nurses working for the state here start out around $35K. Youch.
 
things I do so we can afford disney...

This is one is important - get rid of your credit card, or just keep it at home for emergency use. It's way too easy to buy impulsively if you use a credit card.

1. Always always always cook meals at home.

2. Only time to eat out is buying value hamburgers for kiddos at Wendy's (4 for less than $6 and everyone is happy :)

3. Date night is trip to local Chapters bookstore and split a $2 Starbucks coffee with dh and enjoy the ambience/music for 1-2 hours, grandparents babysit for 2 hours (date night is maybe 1 per month)

4. Dinners out? Maybe 2 times per year when we get gift certificates for Christmas or something like that. One dinner out can cost a family of 4 at least $60 at a normal restaurant with tax and tip included. Just boil some water and make pasta with pasta sauce. About $5 to feed everyone and you don't have to leave your home.


5. But I should add we do eat out at Disney World (not alot, since I bring electric skillet and we buy groceries at Wal-mart for our in room fridge).

6. never ever ever buy coffee out. Always brew at home and take to work or elsewhere.

7. Utilities: always shut lights off in rooms when not in use and lower thermostat during the day when not home and at night when sleeping.

8. Shop on Craigslist for kids items, or on ebay for toys for christmas

9. Kids under 9: buy secondhand toys for Christmas and wrap them really nice, they never know the difference. I bought 25 build a bear pets and 30 matching outfits for $120 delivered on ebay this year. My niece and daughter thought Santa was the best. He also delivered to my daughter a huge box of polly pocket items. She is 9 and didn't care that they were not in new wrapping. My ds 4 got a previously well-loved train set on train table for $65. Train set has marks all over it, but he didn't care.

10. I wouldn't do above 9. for other kids, only your own.

11. Sell kids toys and baby items on craigslist when done with them, or ebay if you prefer.

12. If you can carpool, save money on gas that way.

13. If you rent a car use mousesavers.com for codes or priceline (even better).

14. Use ME if you really want to save the money, and pack snacks from home to help with food costs in the world.

15. Use your local library to get books and movies for home use rather than buying DVDs.

16. Don't go to stores unless it's for grocery shopping.

17. Bring cash when you go grocery shopping because that way you only have a certain amount to spend, and prepare a list every time.

18. Don't take kids to grocery store if you can avoid it, you always end up spending a little extra.

19. Birthday parties: find economical place to host birthday party, invite the little kiddies, make hotdogs/buns and juice, make your own cake, dollar store for loot bags. All the presents that come from the other kids; your child won't even remember that you didn't go out and spend $100 on a birthday gift for them :) Funny huh? It works. Tell child birthday party was the gift and look at all the new toys you received.

20. Put away toys that child will not play with and keep them for next birthday child is invited to. (figure you save at least $20 per gift next time).

21. Pre-buy gifts for birthdays when you find deals.

22. Don't use dry clean service if you can avoid it. Launder shirts at home and use the old ironing board.

23. Buy clothing/shoes from second hand stores. You'd be amazed at what women donate to these charity organizations (I should also add men's wardrobes as well).

24. Since you all live in the States, you can use Southwest for cheap airfare, we don't really have that option in Toronto unless I want to drive 2 hours to Buffalo (no thanks).

25. Visit disney at value season and there is nothing wrong with the Value resorts. Most people spend most of the day at the parks and hardly any time in the rooms.

26. We stayed at CSR last year for 3 nights, I though the room size was very comparable to the values, but was more expensive. So consider a value if you can get a discount.

27. Wait for free dining announcement and then go. That is worth it I think.

28. Go to local library and borrow Unofficial Guide to Disney World and read it from cover to cover for extra ideas.

29. Stay offsite in condo facility with kitchen to save on food costs from eating out.

30. If you pay daycare costs, sit down and consider how much your take home pay really is. Financially because of tax brackets and all additional costs associated with working (transportation, clothing/hair cuts, gas, lunches, taxes, convenience foods instead of always cooking at home), it may be cheaper and much easier on family life for one parent to be home with kids instead of paying the day care costs and all the costs really involved with working outside of the home.

31. I always tell my kids to make me something for my birthday or Christmas and not to buy me anything. DD usually draws nice picture and makes a poem. DS is too small right now for this. Valentine's just passed. DH knows that I love the fact he doesn't buy me a gift or flowers. He could afford it, but I love that he doesn't :)

32. Great idea for Christmas gifts for family: buy magazine subscriptions. for $15 CDN each, I bought 1 year Chatelaine magazine for 2 family members. Check for these types of discounts and every time the magazine comes each month, you will be remembered. And I should add, I didn't have to go to a store to do this, it was done online.

33. Haircuts: dh has always cut the kids' hair. Bought professional scissors when dd was little and used them ever since. DH cuts my hair too :) Of course, he cuts straight across the back and I can do my own bangs. I guess I've just been dissatisfied with the cuts over the last few years (maybe 1 time per year when I thought I would try), so resorted back to dh cutting it. Gray hairs? I have a few and L'Oreal Excellence seems to be the best hair colouring. Cut and colour at any good salon is close to $80. So that money goes into our savings. I should add that I have a good curling iron and my hair always looks nice at work, so I don't bother with the hair cuts at salons anymore. Maybe when I'm rich I'll spend money at hair salons.

34. I drive a 1993 Toyota Corolla, hopefully it will survive another 2 years maybe? Great on gas. DH drives 1996 Ford explorer - that one won't last too long, but next purchase will be hybrid so we can save on gas since prices are not going any lower.

35. Basically, all year consider any extra purchases taking away from money that could be used towards disney.

spending an extra $2 a day for anything (coffee, snack etc) is $720 per year.

spending an extra $5 a day for anything (lunch at work?) is over $1500/year.

The little things add up. Look after the pennies and the dollars will take care of themselves.

I have to say following these concepts above has made me really happy and content and not missing anything, since we do not worry about our finances. We lived on 1 income for 7 years so I had to learn to live on less and now it's part of our nature. This is how we are able to afford Disney and still be happy with day to day life.

a little OT: I don't think I'd want to be a teacher anyhow because being with kids all day is not my cup of tea, and having the summer off would eventually lead me to a long expensive disney trip or to the local stores out of boredom. Work keeps me busy and not spending extra cash.

I have to say I don't think these ideas are extreme at all. They are just ways to cut down extra spending so you can have money set aside for the future.
 
things I do so we can afford disney...

This is one is important - get rid of your credit card, or just keep it at home for emergency use. It's way too easy to buy impulsively if you use a credit card.

1. Always always always cook meals at home.

2. Only time to eat out is buying value hamburgers for kiddos at Wendy's (4 for less than $6 and everyone is happy :)

3. Date night is trip to local Chapters bookstore and split a $2 Starbucks coffee with dh and enjoy the ambience/music for 1-2 hours, grandparents babysit for 2 hours (date night is maybe 1 per month)

4. Dinners out? Maybe 2 times per year when we get gift certificates for Christmas or something like that.


5. But I should add we do eat out at Disney World (not alot, since I bring electric skillet and we buy groceries at Wal-mart for our in room fridge).

6. never ever ever buy coffee out. Always brew at home and take to work or elsewhere.

7. Utilities: always shut lights off in rooms when not in use and lower thermostat during the day when not home and at night when sleeping.

8. Shop on Craigslist for kids items, or on ebay for toys for christmas

9. Kids under 9: buy secondhand toys for Christmas and wrap them really nice, they never know the difference. I bought 25 build a bear pets and 30 matching outfits for $120 delivered on ebay this year. My niece and daughter thought Santa was the best. He also delivered to my daughter a huge box of polly pocket items. She is 9 and didn't care that they were not in new wrapping. My ds 4 got a previously well-loved train set on train table for $65. Train set has marks all over it, but he didn't care.

10. I wouldn't do above 9. for other kids, only your own.

11. Sell kids toys and baby items on craigslist when done with them, or ebay if you prefer.

12. If you can carpool, save money on gas that way.

13. If you rent a car use mousesavers.com for codes or priceline (even better).

14. Use ME if you really want to save the money, and pack snacks from home to help with food costs in the world.

15. Use your local library to get books and movies for home use rather than buying DVDs.

16. Don't go to stores unless it's for grocery shopping.

17. Bring cash when you go grocery shopping because that way you only have a certain amount to spend, and prepare a list every time.

18. Don't take kids to grocery store if you can avoid it, you always end up spending a little extra.

19. Birthday parties: find economical place to host birthday party, invite the little kiddies, make hotdogs/buns and juice, make your own cake, dollar store for loot bags. All the presents that come from the other kids; your child won't even remember that you didn't go out and spend $100 on a birthday gift for them :) Funny huh? It works. Tell child birthday party was the gift and look at all the new toys you received.

20. Put away toys that child will not play with and keep them for next birthday child is invited to. (figure you save at least $20 per gift next time).

21. Pre-buy gifts for birthdays when you find deals.

22. Don't use dry clean service if you can avoid it. Launder shirts at home and use the old ironing board.

23. Buy clothing/shoes from second hand stores. You'd be amazed at what women donate to these charity organizations (I should also add men's wardrobes as well).

24. Since you all live in the States, you can use Southwest for cheap airfare, we don't really have that option in Toronto unless I want to drive 2 hours to Buffalo (no thanks).

25. Visit disney at value season and there is nothing wrong with the Value resorts. Most people spend most of the day at the parks and hardly any time in the rooms.

26. We stayed at CSR last year for 3 nights, I though the room size was very comparable to the values, but was more expensive. So consider a value if you can get a discount.

27. Wait for free dining announcement and then go. That is worth it I think.

28. Go to local library and borrow Unofficial Guide to Disney World and read it from cover to cover for extra ideas.

29. Stay offsite in condo facility with kitchen to save on food costs from eating out.

30. If you pay daycare costs, sit down and consider how much your take home pay really is. Financially because of tax brackets and all additional costs associated with working (transportation, clothing/hair cuts, gas, lunches, taxes, convenience foods instead of always cooking at home), it may be cheaper and much easier on family life for one parent to be home with kids instead of paying the day care costs and all the costs really involved with working outside of the home.

31. Basically, all year consider any extra purchases taking away from money that could be used towards disney.

spending an extra $2 a day for anything (coffee, snack etc) is $720 per year.

spending an extra $5 a day for anything (lunch at work?) is over $1500/year.

The little things add up. Look after the pennies and the dollars will take care of themselves.

I have to say following these concepts above has made me really happy and content and not missing anything, since we do not worry about our finances. We lived on 1 income for 7 years so I had to learn to live on less and now it's part of our nature. This is how we are able to afford Disney and still be happy with day to day life.


Wow, that's some list.

I for one could never do most of the things listed. As much as I love going on vacation, I also want to enjoy living day to day.
 
Wow, that's some list.

I for one could never do most of the things listed. As much as I love going on vacation, I also want to enjoy living day to day.

I understand what you are saying, but trying to save money on a daily basis is really to make sure that we have enough saved for anything in the future, and that could mean retirement, or trips to disney or trips to Europe. It's really nice to know that we have a nice amount tucked away in case we need it.

I've always heard that finances are the biggest reason that couples fight, and maybe these ideas can help some families save at least a little bit. If not towards disney, then towards future retirement. Peace of mind really is priceless.
 
WOW!! Funny you didn't say that to me in the PM. At this point, believe what you want... you said you wouldn't believe withough seeing and then I go to the trouble to show you and you make another accusation. At least the others that know high paid Teachers will believe me...you saw the salary schedule yourself, why are you being so obstinate?


It was a joke. Although, I do not like having PMs dragged into threads, but for the sake of this thread I will concede what I conceded in private. Your sister makes good money. That school district pays well, some do, but they are also in areas that have high costs of living.

For the most part, though people who want to make a lot of money don't go into teaching.
 
Geez - where to start? We have done a few budget (on a shoestring) trips to WDW and one "once in a lifetime, blow it out, stay on property (Polynesian - Concierge level, lagon view), go for it" trip. Too many times I have felt like I couldn't buy my children something along the way, so I tried to make up for it at Christmas or on their birthdays, but dh and I have learned (and we wish we had learned it earlier) that making family memories together is much more improtant than any gifts. Granted our family has some traditions that go way back and meant many memories - for example, for over 15 years, we have done dinner and a movie once a week and still do it. These things mean more than any presents. So how do we do the family vacations now? We plan for it, literally put a box out that we drop coins into each day. For birthdays and other such events, we "give" money to the box for an extra meal, an excursion, a special souvenir, or whatever. This past Christmas, each family member's Christmas present was a trip to ski in CO. There were no other presents under the tree -that was present enough. With what we usually spent on Christmas for each other, going there wasn't that much more. For birhtdays and mother's day, etc... leading up to it, presents were put in the box in an effort to defray costs associated with the trip. Our kids - now 18 and 21 - have begged us to do another trip like this as Christmas. They would much rather us spend time together like this than open a bunch of presents. Even so, we can't afford to do this every year. With one in college and one going in August, we have to be careful; but we have found those times spent together away from the stresses of everyday life are fantastic presents with memories that get opened over and over again. We finally bought into DVC. It makes us take a vacation (which we have not always done) and dh and I look at it as a step into the next season of our lives and the kind of grandparents we want to be some day.
 
have only read the first 8 or 9 pages...

I'm real...single mom with two kids plus supporting my disabled mother all on my teacher's salary. I get a very small amount of child support...

How do i pay for disney...Charge it! yep I use credit cards. I have credit card debit (and not the DIS perfect one card...yep I have multiple cards!) I am a firm believer in making sure my kids can have fun and I won't ever say "I wish had taken them to..." or "I wish we had done...".

I paid for my own college and I imagine my kids might have to pay for their own college or buy their own car (like i had to do).

But debt to me is the least of my worries. I pay my bills on time, I take no government assistance, I work hard at what I do, and I'm going to enjoy my life.

So I'm not one of the disers that can pay cash for a trip and only has one credit card...but I am one happy person who enjoys everything about life and the time I can spend with my kids!

Now if you will excuse me I have to go make sure my credit card has money available for Chuck E. Cheese today!

tara
 
not sure if everyone works on a budget, ours is pay the monthly bills/education fund/savings, etc. and whatever is leftover becomes disposable income...then DH & I negotiate;)

what i call frugal, others could call cheap; all a matter of prioritizing as to what bullet you're willing to bite in order to reach your dreams...as i tell my older DSs: you have to choose whether you're going to splurge everyday or a few times a year.

I wasn't able to take my 2 older DSs to WDW when they were young children, just couldn't afford it. Prices dropped dramatically after 911 (even though they are creeping back up, airfare still is less than I paid back in the late 70's)

will say i'm sick to death of friends & family asking "how do you do it" and rolling their eyes when i tell them that all they'd have to do is cut down their regular monthly entertainment/clothing expenditures, save it for a year & they'd be able to travel to their dream location.

We went out to Red Lobster for anniversary dinner on Saturday, with drinks/tip it was over $100 for 2 of us.:eek: Server saw me flinch (said he saw it in my eyes lol); said most of the peeps there that night were "regulars":confused3

We drive our vehicles longer too (i've got a a '92 seville will low mileage and plan on driving it until it falls apart...funny thing, DH drove it work & hit a deer; thought for sure the insurance company would total it...they spent nearly $5k to fix body damage)

Additionally, Xmas presents have been cut to a minimum between DH & I, we'd rather travel together:lovestruc
 


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