Not impressed with the current fastpass system

[mom2rtk]

I'm kind of confused about what the argument and counter arguments are.

There is a Fast Pass system.

Up until recently Disney allowed people to use Fast Passes past their printed parameters.

Now they have stopped allowing this.

What is the argument?

The argument is about whether those who used them late before, as allowed by Disney policy, were wrong in doing so. Or whether those who did not use them late were better people. Really.

 

[Bob NC]

The argument is about whether those who used them late before, as allowed by Disney policy, were wrong in doing so. Or whether those who did not use them late were better people. Really.

That's in the past.

Does it make any difference now?

If Disney allowed it, then I guess nobody was doing anything wrong.

To the people following the directions printed on a Fast Pass, well, they weren't doing anything wrong either.

Wait, does the winner of this argument get to design the next Fast Pass system?????

 

[linskypens]

Late to the discussion, (three pages back and happy I missed most of it really) but once keyed in to the fact that you could return after the window, which was about five years ago, I used that opportunity at every possible turn.I cheerfully strolled past standby liners, happily skipping up the fastpass queue, to turn in my six hour old fastpass. That makes me a bad person? I'm willing to live with that.
Does it make me a bad person when I skip the left lline at a CS restaurant, and walk right to the front of the non existent right hand line and get immediate service? Because I'll be the first one to do that.
Does it make me a bad person to start my own line at a turnstile at RD because I know which ones will be manned and which ones wont, having researched the issue? Because I do that every trip.
If knowing the system and how to work within it, makes me a bad person, then so be it. I think its called being prepared.
That being said, I also will be the last person to complain about the new enforcement policy. Rules are the rules kids, whether they work for you or against you. Unless you are in a position to make the rules, I guess you will all have to live with it.

 

[mom2rtk]

That's in the past.

Does it make any difference now?

If Disney allowed it, then I guess nobody was doing anything wrong.

To the people following the directions printed on a Fast Pass, well, they weren't doing anything wrong either.

Wait, does the winner of this argument get to design the next Fast Pass system?????

LOL! Based on how long this argument has been going on, I'm not optimistic that there will BE a winner of this argument!

Believe it or not, I have moved on. We're scheduling our next trip and making adjustments to our touring plan. It will be what it is. My complaint is not with the policy change, but the judgmental attitude that permeates these threads. I'm a rule follower. If it was agaist policy, I wouldn't be doing it. But if the CM says "sure, as long as you use it today, it's fine" I'm going to do it and think it's silly that someone would judge me for that.

But every time one of these threads gets started, someone always has to comment on how wrong it was to use them "late".

I have no complaint about the people who used them "on time". I have no issue with those who used them "late".

But an awful lot of folks who used them "on time" seem to have issue with those who previously used them "late".

So on and on it goes. I've seen an awful lot of silliness on the DIS through the years. But this one gets the prize for the silliest.

 

[KellyNY]

But every time one of these threads gets started, someone always has to comment on how wrong it was to use them "late".

All because we are gealous of "cool" people or because we think we are better people, or wait, I got it, because we are stupid sheep...

 

[mom2rtk]

All because we are gealous of "cool" people or because we think we are better people, or wait, I got it, because we are stupid sheep...

1) I didn't make the sheep comment

2) the "cool kids" comment was a joke. I can honestly say I've never been remotely close to cool.

 

[KellyNY]

1) I didn't make the sheep comment

2) the "cool kids" comment was a joke. I can honestly say I've never been remotely close to cool.

But you trully believe in your second comment,.. about better people? Very sad.

 

[mom2rtk]

But you trully believe in your second comment,.. about better people? Very sad.

I never said the people using them late were better people. That's absurd. Please read my comment again before jumping to conclusions.

I said many people who did NOT use them late consider themselves to be better people.

 

[mesaboy2]

The argument is about whether those who used them late before, as allowed by Disney policy, were wrong in doing so. Or whether those who did not use them late were better people. Really.

mom2rtk's second statement, modified for emphasis. Done here.

 

[North of Mouse]

I disagree. After reading this thread and others like it, it is apparent that lots of people took FP's and returned after the time allotment. As far as being upset because we didn't take advantage of the system (like the "cool kids" do)...well that isn't true either. I am upset that the "cool kids" took FP's when they had no intention of using them for the correct time causing lots of people like us (the uncool kids) to not get one at all.

I am super happy that all of those "cool kids" will have to follow the rules now or else they will be waiting with all of the "uncool kids"!

I was in line with two of these "cool kids" and yes, they did hoard and return in the evening to use them up. We talked about it as we moved along (very congenially). They had just asked a "big wig" that happened to be "overseeing" the FP line at Soarin' when we were there would they really enforce the "new" ruling. He said it wasn't "new", they were just going to enforce what was originally intended, but had gotten lax with time. She said they weren't exactly thrilled with it, but understood the reason for it, and they also agreed the FP lines were a lot shorter because of it We were there 10 days and we could really SEE the difference (no hearsay).

 

[WillAustin]

But every time one of these threads gets started, someone always has to comment on how wrong it was to use them "late".

Yes. Even when the thread really has nothing to do with it, someone inevitably chimes in with "I'll never understand why someone would ever think to use an FP outside the window."

My answer is that Disney told me to.

Edit: I'll add that I didn't learn about it online, but at the parks.

 

[KellyNY]

I never said the people using them late were better people. That's absurd. Please read my comment again before jumping to conclusions.

I said many people who did NOT use them late consider themselves to be better people.

I know what you said and once again, do you trully believe that many people who did NOT use them late consider themselves to be better people? This is your true statement, not one of your jokes or even sarcasm? Because if this is how you really feel, then it is very sad and you ARE taking it way too personal with us, not the other way around. Because I did not see many people to act superior, few, yes, on both sides, but not many. However, many were blamed to act or feel superior just like you did right now and it really does not win your front any points, just makes it sad, that is all.

 

[KellyNY]

Yes. Even when the thread really has nothing to do with it, someone inevitably chimes in with "I'll never understand why someone would ever think to use an FP outside the window."

My answer is that Disney told me to.

Edit: I'll add that I didn't learn about it online, but at the parks.

Yes, it happens and people also chime with "am I suppose to wait for the right time like lunatic" or something like "there is so much of waste of my vacation time, I cannot wait few minutes", or "some people hurt their own families just to feel superior"... You saw those comments. Who do you think they aimed at and what good do you think they can bring?

 

[WillAustin]

Yes, it happens and people also chime with "am I suppose to wait for the right time like lunatic" or something like "there is so much of waste of my vacation time, I cannot wait few minutes", or "some people hurt their own families just to feel superior"... You saw those comments. Who do you think they aimed at and what good do you think they can bring?

Well...that wasn't me, or you, was it?

 

[KellyNY]

Well...that wasn't me, or you, was it?

Nope, definitely not you, nor me.

 

[Joe Buck]

It definitely gave you more flexibility in the past and I do miss that. If I am in Epcot, sometime I will use the monorail to go to MK and I liked that I could get a fast pass for Soarin and ride it later after the fast pass time expired. The way I look at it is it was a nice perk, but cant complain about what they did. I understand their reasoning behind it. The new system definitely worked well for me with Soarin recently. When using the fast pass, I only waited about 5 minutes and in the past if everyone decided to use their fastpass at the same time the wait could be a half hour. For some reason when I was in Animal Kingdom recently, it looked like it made things worse for the Safari. The line for the fast pass was really long and never saw that before.

 

[TLSnell1981]

No worries!! It won't be long, until the new FP system is in full swing. We'll have a brand new, can of worms to open...

 

[FlightlessDuck]

Actually it does make sense that they'd be longer than they used to at the peak-crowd time of day, because before you had people delaying their return until later rather than joining the line when the park is at its busiest.

But the FastPass times are distributed evenly throughout the day, regardless of peek time. And when er were able to return after the window, I'd never seen the FastPass line as long as the OP said it was, even later in day. So why would forcing the distrubition to remain equal create such a long line?

In this case, I suspect a group of people were waiting for their window to open, and people just formed a line behind them.

 

[alh921]

I've been to Disney World 3 times in the last 4 years and I never knew that you could use the FP's past their time window (prior the enforcement). We frequently missed our FP times and just figured we missed out, so we would throw them away. I guess things won't seem any different to us next time we go

 

[Robo]

An overwhelming number of responses in these threads is the "we didn't ever know that we COULD use FP past the end time..."

Seems like so few guests knew they could return "after window"
I can't see how the few that DID return "late" could possibly have caused all of the FP lines to stagnate late in the day.

How would that have worked?