not happy with standby rant

[TwinPrincessMermaids]

It sort of works to control crowds. When my friends and I have their own MDE accounts and we are looking to get FPs that aren't linked, we notice that we get similar times but opposite attractions or times, even we select the same three. Of course, we can play around with it and get them the same but the average person won't care if they do one first or the other and take the options most times as they come. In theory, our families would have been on opposite sides of the park if we had kept it. So that's one way of 'crowd' control...

 

[TwinPrincessMermaids]

Disney won't go to making the standby lines sound like an airport terminal. If people haven't moved or are moving slower than normal through a queue and have other arrangements, well, they're (for the most part) adults and should be able to make that decision that "we're not going to get on the ride and we need to head to our other pre-made arrangements.".

Actually they have one time made constant announcements in the Midway Mania line every time the line increased, saying if you had reservations or FPs to note the increase. They were announcing it like every ten min, and each time, more people left out of the line! (Which helped our cause!) This was a year ago, so maybe they don't anymore....

 

[supersnoop]

Well, I know if I had a FP for BTMRR and I'm almost there, and I get an email or message in MDE saying BTMRR is down and I can now ride Splash in the FP line, I'm probably going to do it. So you have not only all the pre-scheduled Splash FPs, but now also all the FPs in line and FPs headed for BTMRR. Two rides worth of FPs in a particular time block, and the closest E-ticket is Splash.

But, again, an hours worth of BTMR FP+ suddenly being redirected to Splash Mountain isn't going to increase the Splash standby line by more than an hour. It simply cannot have that big of an impact.

 

[TwinPrincessMermaids]

It depends on how many had FPs and how long the other line was down. If Thunder Mtn is down for a few different ranges of Fp time, and all of those people go to Splash because its next door, the wait goes up QUITE a bit. Now you have actual Splash FPs along with several ranges of Thunder FPs. We've watched it happen...

 

[mousehockey37]

It depends on how many had FPs and how long the other line was down. If Thunder Mtn is down for a few different ranges of Fp time, and all of those people go to Splash because its next door, the wait goes up QUITE a bit. Now you have actual Splash FPs along with several ranges of Thunder FPs. We've watched it happen...

That's the thing. It all depends on how long and when the ride is down. It also depends on what people have going on later in the day, what they've already done, etc. The park that has the most options is MK because they have several rides on each tier. So imagine when things go down in the other 3 parks and this happens where there's less rides to distribute people to.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Can you imagine how long that would take to explain to guests? You can go on any attraction using this FP except ABC any time today. It would be a solution, but I am not sure folks would like it

I was.under the impression that these emails for rescheduling fp+ when a ride goes.down during your window specifically list the attractions it may be used on. Is that not the case?

If it is the case that attractions are specifically listed, then there's no explanation necessary. Just don't include the nearest e ticket in that list.

 

[TwinPrincessMermaids]

I was.under the impression that these emails for rescheduling fp+ when a ride goes.down during your window specifically list the attractions it may be used on. Is that not the case?

If it is the case that attractions are specifically listed, then there's no explanation necessary. Just don't include the nearest e ticket in that list.

Well yes and no. By yes, it DOES list the rides...all like ten of them. Basically its anything but Midway or Seven Dwarves. The rest of the park is wide open. Also, the emails we get act like we no longer have an end time on them. They are good for the rest of the night. But no, if Thunder goes down, they don't automatically direct people to Splash. Sometimes we use our 'freebee' for Splash and sometimes we keep it for Space. If its what we want we wait and ride it when it comes back up, which is what we did last time. Its almost like a blanket park wide free time FP at that point...

 

[Angel Ariel]

If they are already leaving off certain attractions, then they must not think omitting certain attractions is too confusing for guests to.understand.

 

[mousehockey37]

I was.under the impression that these emails for rescheduling fp+ when a ride goes.down during your window specifically list the attractions it may be used on. Is that not the case?

If it is the case that attractions are specifically listed, then there's no explanation necessary. Just don't include the nearest e ticket in that list.

That's still not going to stop everyone from going to the next closest ride. The emails are only for people that had FP's for that time period when the ride was down long enough, not everyone in line on both the FP and standby side.

So taking off 1 attraction isn't necessary. Originally, I believe you got the email saying you had 1 FP+ for anytime up until a certain point (originally I think the limit was the next day). You could use that FP for pretty much any ride, including the ride you missed that gave you the freebie in the first place.

If anyone has or can get a screenshot of that email, I'm thinking that would be helpful at this point.

 

[Angel Ariel]

I didn't say it would solve the OP's problem. I was responding to the idea that the proposed solution of not including the nearest e ticket would be confusing to guests. I make no.claim as to whether or not the proposed solution would fix the OP's issue, I just do not believe it would be confusing to guests, especially if they are already omitting certain attractions from the list.

 

[TwinPrincessMermaids]

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If anyone has or can get a screenshot of that email, I'm thinking that would be helpful at this point.

Here you go! Did that work?

 

[mousehockey37]

I didn't say it would solve the OP's problem. I was responding to the idea that the proposed solution of not including the nearest e ticket would be confusing to guests. I make no.claim as to whether or not the proposed solution would fix the OP's issue, I just do not believe it would be confusing to guests, especially if they are already omitting certain attractions from the list.

Well, then you are also assuming 1 ride being down, what about multiple rides being down? By far, the MK has the most options to choose from for giving people options to head to other rides. EPCOT has a decent amount, but AK and DHS, there's not much there to start with.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Well, then you are also assuming 1 ride being down, what about multiple rides being down? By far, the MK has the most options to choose from for giving people options to head to other rides. EPCOT has a decent amount, but AK and DHS, there's not much there to start with.

You are putting more into my posts than is there.

I am not stating the proposed solution will work. I am not assuming anything about the proposed solution.

All I am saying is that emailing guests with a list of attractions they can use their fp for is not confusing. Whatever attractions are on the list, they can use the fp for. Whatever attractions are omitted, they cannot use the fp for. this concept is not one that I believe would confuse guests. Whatever attractions appeared or were omitted would be up to Disney - my comment was never about that.

 

[TwinPrincessMermaids]

You are putting more into my posts than is there.

I am not stating the proposed solution will work. I am not assuming anything about the proposed solution.

All I am saying is that emailing guests with a list of attractions they can use their fp for is not confusing. Whatever attractions are on the list, they can use the fp for. Whatever attractions are omitted, they cannot use the fp for. this concept is not one that I believe would confuse guests. Whatever attractions appeared or were omitted would be up to Disney - my comment was never about that.

Here is your list in case the PDF didn't work. (For all who want to see an example of the email.)

 

[mousehockey37]

You are putting more into my posts than is there.

I am not stating the proposed solution will work. I am not assuming anything about the proposed solution.

All I am saying is that emailing guests with a list of attractions they can use their fp for is not confusing. Whatever attractions are on the list, they can use the fp for. Whatever attractions are omitted, they cannot use the fp for. this concept is not one that I believe would confuse guests. Whatever attractions appeared or were omitted would be up to Disney - my comment was never about that.

That's fine, people will still push the envelope regardless.

But going outside the box, I stand behind my comment.

 

[Angel Ariel]

That's fine, people will still push the envelope regardless.

But going outside the box, I stand behind my comment.

I'm not debating your comments : I really don't understand why you are responding to my posts about guests pushing the boundaries. I wasn't ever commenting on any of that. I was just commenting on whether or not something would confuse guests. That's all.

 

[cakebaker]

This goes under the category of stuff happens sometimes. I'm sure it was frustrating, but it all worked out other than spending so much time in line!

Had this been me, I wouldn't have devoted to 2 hrs in line. Nearing the first hour and I was not close to riding, we would've cut our losses. But really, Disney can't cover every single possible scenario. There are thousands of people, dozens of rides. Things are going to happen from time to time and you just have to roll with it.

 

[Planogirl]

Disney won't go to making the standby lines sound like an airport terminal. If people haven't moved or are moving slower than normal through a queue and have other arrangements, well, they're (for the most part) adults and should be able to make that decision that "we're not going to get on the ride and we need to head to our other pre-made arrangements.".

True. This really shows how little value MDE is to the traveler though. Just my opinion.

 

[Planogirl]

I think its goal is distributing crowds to best disguise rationing of limited capacity.

It does little to disguise it though when long lines become longer because the ride next door broke down. It's an expensive system after all and it would be nice to think that it could be more useful than it apparently is.

 

[mousehockey37]

True. This really shows how little value MDE is to the traveler though. Just my opinion.

I'm sure there are plenty of people that still go to Disney that will get a KTTW card for their room and they will scan their park pass at the entrance (aka, no magic bands). There are people who will still go that do not make ADR's or use FP+, and their vacations are successful because they plan accordingly and make it what it is.

It does little to disguise it though when long lines become longer because the ride next door broke down. It's an expensive system after all and it would be nice to think that it could be more useful than it apparently is.

When you only have so many rides in a park, you can only do so much. A prior poster gave a screenshot of what the email looks like with the options to choose from when you have this happen during your FP+ time. The system nor Disney can prevent someone from waiting 4-5 hours from meeting Anna and Elsa or getting on Splash Mtn because Big Thunder broke down. They can only send out their "sorry about your FP+" email and update the wait times board at the entrance to the respective queue.

What you want Disney to do is infringe upon the privacy rights of the guests in the park and track their every step and whereabouts so that if this happens, they can then control your mind and make you go somewhere else. This will not happen.