Nonrefundable Reservations

aloysius1992

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I would be cautious about making any nonrefundable reservations for the next year.
A bird Flu pandemic or just fears of one could cause people not to be able to travel.
One town of 22,000 people has been quarantined in Romania for the last 10 days.
 
At least they're not buying gas from Exxon or Mobil....
 
aloysius1992 said:
I would be cautious about making any nonrefundable reservations for the next year.
A bird Flu pandemic or just fears of one could cause people not to be able to travel.
One town of 22,000 people has been quarantined in Romania for the last 10 days.

Garbage like this is the reason I only make occasional visits to the CB.

From CNN.com

BUCHAREST, Romania (CNN) -- Romanian officials quarantined a Danube delta village of about 30 people Friday after three dead ducks there tested positive for bird flu -- the first such cases reported in the region.


There have been no immediate reports of sickness in the village. Flutur said officials were working to get vaccinations and medication to the people affected by the quarantine


Strange how this went from 30 to 22,000???
And now we should all stay home and hide in fear.......
 
Reporters face bird flu quarantine

Katy Duke
Wednesday January 11, 2006


Romanian journalists who visited supposedly quarantined parts of Turkey to report on bird flu have been told they face quarantine when they return.
Romanian President Traian Basescu has declared that all domestic journalists reporting from Turkey's avian flu hit areas will be isolated as soon as they return home.

Mr Basescu made the statement after the recent cases of avian flu in humans were announced in Turkey and local television stations sent their correspondents to report on the outbreak.


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The president said: "Turkey has not tackled avian flu very carefully, unlike Romania.
"Look at all those journalists who arrived at the scene and reported from right in front of the house where those three people died due to bird flu. What I can tell you is that those journalists will enter quarantine as soon as they return to the country."

Mr Basescu specifically referred to television news correspondent, Mirela Voicu, who was the first Romanian journalist to reach the eastern Turkey province of Dogubeyazit where three children from one family died from the disease.

He said: "The correspondent got into the avian flu area far too easily. Turkish officials should have imposed much stricter measures once the first cases occurred."

Over 30 villages in Romania have been put under quarantine since September and journalists have only been allowed in if they are wearing a mask and get sprayed with disinfectant afterwards, though a number were caught sneaking in.

· To contact the MediaGuardian newsdesk email editor@mediaguardian.co.uk or phone 020 7239 9857
 

Were these reporters out kissing chickens somewhere?
 
This was a quarantine of an area of 1.5 million people this past October.
Next Fall will be the decisive period as migratory birds return if indeed the spread is because of migratory birds. Some health officials warn it may be because of live poultry trade or other vectors.

Romania Urges Calm After Bird Flu

Oct. 15, 2005
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A woman carries ducks to a main poultry market in Hanoi, Vietnam, Friday, Oct. 14, 2005. (AP)






Fast Fact

Experts say migrating birds have spread the disease since it appeared in Southeast Asia two years ago.
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(CBS/AP) Romanian authorities called for calm Saturday as they quarantined an eastern region where tests confirmed Europe's first appearance of a deadly strain of bird flu that has devastated flocks and killed dozens of people in Asia.

Poland's government, meanwhile, banned the sale of live birds at open-air markets and ordered farmers to keep poultry in closed quarters beginning Monday. It also banned pigeon races.

"We are doing this to protect the public from danger," Polish Agriculture Minister Jerzy Pilarczyk said.

On Friday, after the deadly H5N1 virus was confirmed in Turkey, on Europe's doorstep, European Union experts agreed that steps should be taken to limit contact between domestic fowl and wild birds. Experts say migrating birds have spread the disease since it appeared in Southeast Asia two years ago.

Authorities around the world fear the virus could mutate into a form that can be passed among people, leading to a flu pandemic that some say could potentially kill millions. So far, most of the 60 humans deaths involving H5N1 have been linked to victims' contact with birds.

CBS News correspondent Dan Raviv reports that despite new fears, a global pandemic is unlikley, according to Dr. Marc Siegel, whose latest book, "False Alarm," argues that fear is a worse bug than any flu.

"The odds are that some bird flu is going to mutate over the next several years and affect people," Dr. Siegel says. "This one is still five to 20 mutations away. The odds are likely that this won't be the bug."

In Vietnam, U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt called for all nations to work together to quickly come up with preparedness plans.

Leavitt warned that the "chances are not good" for being able to detect when a dangerous mutation first occurs and for moving fast to contain it and prevent a pandemic. Speaking to CBS News Correspondent Melissa McDermott from Jakarta, he likened the spread of a human-transferable virus to a forest fire.

"If you are there at the moment the spark happens, you can simply stamp it out," Leavitt said. "But if the fire is allowed to burn for an hour or two hours, it gains momentum and it’s difficult to contain it."

British laboratory tests confirmed that H5N1 was the virus that killed migratory birds found dead in Romania's Danube River delta.

Romanian Agriculture Minister Gheorghe Flutur placed the Dobrogea region under quarantine, requiring all vehicles entering and leaving the area to be disinfected. Checkpoints were set up on roads into the area, and the region was banned from shipping out eggs and poultry meat.

The area includes the Danube and Black Sea counties of Tulcea and Constanta, where 1.5 million people live. The two lake-filled counties are an important stop for migratory birds from Asia.

Flutur said birds in four neighboring counties were being monitored.

"We are doing what needs to be done," he said. "There should be no panic. We are proceeding the way they proceeded in other countries."

The finding of H5N1 in Romania underscored fears that Europe is unprepared for a pandemic should the virus mutate into a form that can be passed from person to person.

"Experts take the view that an influenza pandemic is inevitable and may be imminent," the European Union's health directorate said on its Web site.

But U.N. flu coordinator David Nabarro told The Associated Press in Thailand that the spread of bird flu to Romania and Turkey "doesn't necessarily mean that we've got a greatly raised risk of human pandemic influenza." It does, however, create more opportunities for the virus to mutate into a form that is dangerous to people, he said.

EU Health Commissioner Markos Kyprianou sought to calm any public fears Saturday, saying no further measures were immediately needed following the bloc's bans on imports of poultry from Romania and Turkey.

The European Commission, the EU's administrative body, has scheduled another meeting of veterinary experts for Thursday to assess developments.

In Turkey, authorities sprayed a second round of disinfectant at the quarantined village of Kiziksa, some 80 miles from Istanbul, where the H5N1 virus was detected at a farm a week ago.

Turkish officials said the virus had been contained in Kiziksa. But Mustafa Altuntas, head of a Turkish veterinarians association, said there was a risk of new outbreaks elsewhere in the country, especially near wetlands used by migrating birds.

About 1,000 chickens were reported dead near the town of Patnos in Turkey's Agri province, but a local Agriculture Ministry official said it was not known if they were killed by bird flu or some other disease.

Test results were not expected before Monday and no quarantine was ordered, said the official, who agreed to discuss the deaths only if not quoted by name because the Turkish government rarely allows civil servants to speak to journalists.

Officials in neighboring Iran reported that 3,692 wild ducks had died in the Poldasht marshland region on its northwestern border with Azerbaijan.

But Behrouz Yasemi, an official with the State Veterinary Organization, said tests had ruled out bird flu and experts were trying to identify the "mysterious disease." He said Iran had notified WHO of the bird deaths.

Stamping out the flu outbreaks in poultry swiftly is important for human health because the further the virus is allowed to spread, the more opportunities it has to mutate into a form that passes easily between people, sparking a human flu pandemic.

In 1918, an influenza pandemic believed to have originated in birds killed more than 40 million people around the world. Subsequent pandemics in 1957 and 1968 had lower death rates but caused extreme disruption.

© MMV, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The Associated Press contributed to this report.
 
"The spread of avian influenza viruses from an ill person to another person has been reported very rarely, and transmission has not been observed to continue beyond one person. "

From CDC website
 
First Romanian town officially quarantined due to bird flu
14 Mar 2006 08:51:34 GMT

Source: World Vision Middle East/Eastern Europe office (MEERO)



Background CRISIS PROFILE: Bird flu


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By Corina Iordanescu-Over 22,000 in habitants of Cernavoda town, in Constanta County have been in isolation for the last 10 days since the local authority quarantine declaration. This is the twelfth case of bird flu to be identified in Romania, but Cernavoda is the first town in Romanian to have been placed under quarantine.

Since the Local Veterinary Department confirmed the H5N1 case in Cernavoda, over 13.000 birds from 1.270 households have been culled. There has been a complete ban on movement entering and leaving the ports and public transport of the town. Three decontamination filters have been placed on the major routes in and out of the town.

Activities at the World Vision Early Intervention Project for Children with Disabilities has been disrupted because of the bird flu prevention measures.

'All the institutions that work with children are experiencing difficulties. Most of the children are staying at home because the specialised teams are disinfecting households and the birds are being culled. We have installed decontamination mats where we hold our activities, which is the required measure for the current situation,' said Gabriela Carp, World VisionProject Coordinator.

Two World Vision staff members, an educator and a psychologist, living in towns close by, were also prevented from attending work in Cernavoda because of the bird flu precautions.

Currently, the Local Government Health Department is sourcing flu vaccines from around the country to boost their insufficient stock.

Their main concern is to vaccinate the 600 children in Cernavoda who are under ten-years-old.

'World Vision informed all the staff and the communities about the preventative measures against bird flu', said Loredana Giuglea, Zone Manager for Constanta ADP. 'We keep in touch with local authorities in order to help them if it is necessary. Staff working directly in the communities will be vaccinated.'


[ Any views expressed in this article are those of the writer and not of Reuters. ]
 
Well personally, I'm not going to STOP living our lives as we normally live them just because the bird flu might make a visit.

I don't have any plans to make non-refundable reservations at the moment. But if I do and I get quarantined in my house with nothing except some plastic sheeting and a couple of rolls of duct tape to protect me and those I love -

well, then I guess I'll just spend my vacation sitting at my computer and moaning on the DIS about my useless plane tickets.
 
I could also get hit by a truck or struck by lightning. I'll take my chances.
 
Toby'sFriend said:
Well personally, I'm not going to STOP living our lives as we normally live them just because the bird flu might make a visit.

I don't have any plans to make non-refundable reservations at the moment. But if I do and I get quarantined in my house with nothing except some plastic sheeting and a couple of rolls of duct tape to protect me and those I love -

well, then I guess I'll just spend my vacation sitting at my computer and moaning on the DIS about my useless plane tickets.

I do have reservations

Disneyland September
WDW January

Both reservations are refundable deposits.

Starting a business this month but also am prepared for Hurricane/quarantine.

Your preps should include medications, esp. birth control- remember all the black out baby booms?

Your preps should also include books,cards,board games. More entertaining than poring over worthless plane tickets.
 
And here I was worried about Delta airlines and my airplane tickets in December!



I heard yesterday on the news that so far there is little to no evidence that Bird Flu can spread human to human.
 
Your preps should include medications, esp. birth control- remember all the black out baby booms?

:rotfl2: :rotfl2:

If my husband is sick with the bird flu, I'm not gonna go anywhere near him regardless. :banana: :banana:
 
If I get Bird Flu, the LAST thing on my mind is going to be lost vacation money. :guilty:
 


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