Non-DVC related: Florida AP pass for non-DVC Florida timeshare

[mickey10171]

I asked in another thread but no one has answered so hoping my fellow knowledgeable DVC members can help

I have a few family members who own a Florida, non-DVC timeshare. Is there anyway for them to qualify for a Florida AP since they own a timeshare in Florida (which is technically real estate)?

 

[Suz333]

Probably not. They’re not going to have the documentation to verify residency (driver’s license, utility bills, etc).

If they own a vacation home, then they could possibly qualify, but not a timeshare.

 

[DisBuckMan]

Definitely not. If that were the case, then every DVC owner (other than those who only own at Hilton Head, Grand Californian, or Aulani) would qualify for Florida resident AP's.

 

[drusba]

You need to be an actual Florida resident to buy a Florida AP from Disney. Ownership of a timeshare does not establish residency. That means to actually receive the pass when you show up at the park to get the actual pass, you need proof of actual residency, such as a Florida driver’s license showing your Florida address.

Moreover, they should check their POS documents. It is common for Florida timeshares to include clauses that the owner agrees that owning and staying in the timeshare cannot be used to establish Florida residency (the DVC POS’s have such clauses).

 

[mickey10171]

Yea true...thanks all!

 

[dclpluto]

I have a aunt and uncle that owns a home in Florida. They don’t get any of the good Florida discounts because they are not a resident. They also own a home out of state which they are a resident. They are talking about changing residents so they get all the good things that floridans get.

 

[mac_tlc]

If they own a home in Florida, they can get a Florida resident ticket. There are a number of items that qualify, besides a drivers license, such as mortgage statement, utility bill, property tax bill, etc.

Mac_tlc

 

[Maistre Gracey]

I have a aunt and uncle that owns a home in Florida. They don’t get any of the good Florida discounts because they are not a resident. They also own a home out of state which they are a resident. They are talking about changing residents so they get all the good things that floridans get.

What good things are you talking about??
Just Disney tickets? If so, they likely qualify now.
If you mean other non Disney things, such as homestead exemption, you are likely correct.

 

[coaster32]

I thought even having banking statements with a Florida address was a qualifying item to get the Florida AP's?

 

[Sandisw]

I thought even having banking statements with a Florida address was a qualifying item to get the Florida AP's?

They do now allow certain statements as proof of address for the FL discounts. I don't remember if it is a bank statement or not. IIRC, utilities and mortgage statements were allowed. What I do not know if they have updated or changed any of this as I have not checked in awhile.

My parents own a condo in FL, and we were trying to see if they would be eligible as they normally spent 4 to 6 months there....but kept licenses in NY. We ended up not doing anything because health changed so trips to Disney were no longer an option for them.

 

[drusba]

You need to distinguish between what is required and what you can offer to prove it.

The actual requirement is to be, in fact, a resident of Florida. If you own a home in Florida but actually live elsewhere, and presumably have your driver's license or state ID card elsewhere, you are not a Florida resident entitled to the discounted pass. If, in that situation, you assert you are a resident by claiming entitlement to the discounted pass, you would be purchasing the discounted pass based on a misrepresentation.

What you then have are the rather loose rules for proving your claim that you are, in fact, a resident. Go here for things accepted to establish your representation as being a resident: https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/faq/tickets/proof-florida-address/ As you can see, owning a home in Florida allows you to prove residency by showing such things as payment of a monthly bill for services at the home, but that proof does not, in fact, make you a resident unless you actually live in that home, and. if you do not, using such evidence to claim residency could be considered fraud, although the reality is Disney is unlikely to ever mount a challenge to your getting a Florida discounted ticket.

You also have the issue of family going with you, particularly any adult, who may not have any secondary document upon which to claim Florida residency so they may not get the discount. Also, it appears that if you pay for the tickets via a credit card, your credit card record needs to show a Florida address.

 

[DonMacGregor]

I own (with my family) a condo on Maui that we VRBO 11 months out of the year. I'm on the deed and the mortgage too, but Hawaii doesn't recognize me as a "resident", just a property owner and DEFINITELY not Kama'aina,

 

[we"reofftoneverland]

You have to have a Florida DL

 

[Sandisw]

You have to have a Florida DL

Not true. See the link listed above. In post #11

WDW allows other documents to be presented to receive the FL resident discount.

And if you read it, it specifically says show proof of a FL residential address, not that you yourself are a resident.

It may be semantics, but this could be why friends of my parents who did buy passes who snowbird were allowed to purchase. And yes, the told the CM as such. Now that was 4 years ago so it could be different now.

 

[jodifla]

For years I used my Florida bank statements and my passport to get Florida resident tickets.

 

[sheilafri]

You need to be an actual Florida resident to buy a Florida AP from Disney. Ownership of a timeshare does not establish residency. That means to actually receive the pass when you show up at the park to get the actual pass, you need proof of actual residency, such as a Florida driver’s license showing your Florida address.

Moreover, they should check their POS documents. It is common for Florida timeshares to include clauses that the owner agrees that owning and staying in the timeshare cannot be used to establish Florida residency (the DVC POS’s have such clauses).

Actually, you don’t have to be a permanent resident. Disney is very generous in allowing seasonal residents to buy FL resident passes. I own a second home in FL and have qualified for the last few years by showing my insurance bill, utility bill, or another accepted form of proof of FL address. Find the details on the Disney site.

 

[sheilafri]

I have a aunt and uncle that owns a home in Florida. They don’t get any of the good Florida discounts because they are not a resident. They also own a home out of state which they are a resident. They are talking about changing residents so they get all the good things that floridans get.

Have them check the Disney requirements for proof of FL address. We own a second home there and get FL APs. As I read UO requirements we wouldn’t qualify there.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

AFAIK a second home is just fine. Disney can define residency however they want. It’s not like applying to the county for a homestead exemption.