Non Dairy Treats on Wonder?

[misskatr5]

Hello. my son is allergic to dairy and was wondering if anyone knows if they have non dairy treats on the Wonder?

I sent a special services form already but wondering so that i can plan ahead.

TIA.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

Hello. my son is allergic to dairy and was wondering if anyone knows if they have non dairy treats on the Wonder?

I sent a special services form already but wondering so that i can plan ahead.

TIA.

I know they have Rice Dream.

 

[misskatr5]

Thank you so much for the post. i should of added that my son is also allergic to peanuts and seeds and eggs. I have the extreme allergy case.

 

[Starwind]

I have anaphylaxis-level allergies to milk, seafood (fish, shellfish, etc), tree nuts, and peanuts. I also avoid artificial sweeteners and cannot have any aspartame due to the adverse reaction it causes.

As a result, especially because of the milk allergy, I have had to redefine what I consider a "treat". Most "processed"/packaged treats are out of the question because of the dairy or the TN/P. But usually the dairy. For example -- sweet potato fries ? AWESOME !! Baked potato ? YUM !!

That aside:

Every night in the MDRs I was given a safe dessert. Sometimes the desserts repeated, but there was always a dessert

Outside of the MDRs there is fruit available -- both cut (e.g. melons) and whole (apples, bananas).

In Cabanas at breakfast time they have the commerically-packaged single-serving bowls of several cereals. I am partial to Fruit Loops as a yummy (but not very often!!) snack (yes even adults can like Fruit Loops!). So in the morning I was get a bowl or two and it would come back to the room with me unopened. I would then have a known safe snack to eat dry later in the day or week. This came in particularly handy one day when I slept through MDR lunch and my lunch became Fruit Loops

I was able to get safe french fries from the quick service place on the pool deck. On the Fantasy I also got safe pepperoni and Tofutti-fake-cheese pizza from the quick service pizza place BUT: they used an Udi's pizza crust which I think has egg like Udi's bread does.

Hope this helps.

SW

 

[SuperDry]

This is only half-way a joke: Is there any dairy in the soft-serve product served on board? It almost certainly doesn't meet the legal definition of "ice cream." Is it possible that there's no dairy in it at all?

 

[PrincessShmoo]

This is only half-way a joke: Is there any dairy in the soft-serve product served on board? It almost certainly doesn't meet the legal definition of "ice cream." Is it possible that there's no dairy in it at all?

Not sure. I do know on our Hawaii cruise (a few years ago) the chocolate soft serve was Dairy Fresh Lowfat Chocolate Dairy Dessert

 

[MunFam]

This is only half-way a joke: Is there any dairy in the soft-serve product served on board? It almost certainly doesn't meet the legal definition of "ice cream." Is it possible that there's no dairy in it at all?

There is a small possibility. My DD is allergic to eggs and sometimes reacts to milk. She did not react to the soft serve, but does react to the one at McDonalds. She can eat cheese though, so I dont know.

They did have a gluten free, egg free pizza crust in room service. It was gross (I am GF) but it WAS pizza. Im not sure if they have vegan cheese. They also had rice krispie Mickey heads (for sale) and she did not react to those...again, not sure about the actual milk content though.

Is your son contact-reaction to milk? If so, be careful because the pool deck, the chairs and tables were always COVERED in melted soft serve.

 

[ajo]

They have sorbet available in the MDRs, with a different flavor every night. They also have Enjoy Life cookies on board if those work for your DS. You can get them in the MDR or through room service. They also had them at Cabanas.

 

[xlxo]

I too have dairy issues and the servers were great to steer me away from dairy items on the menu.

 

[Starwind]

This is only half-way a joke: Is there any dairy in the soft-serve product served on board? It almost certainly doesn't meet the legal definition of "ice cream." Is it possible that there's no dairy in it at all?

In my experience, as someone allergic to milk who has to check ingredients, soft serve "ice cream" almost always contains some amount of milk product.

*Sometimes* a product does not. For example, within the last two years Dole Whip changed the ingredients for their fruit-flavoured soft serve (including PINEAPPLE* ! ) so that it no longer includes a milk ingredient. Previously, it included an ingredient derived from the milk protein casein. HOWEVER, their vanilla and chocolate soft serves still contain the milk ingredient.

In case one ever wondered, the ingredients of pineapple Dole Whip soft serve mix:
Sugar, Dextrose, Coconut Oil, Stabilizers (Cellulose Gum, Xanthan Gum, Locust Bean Gum, Karaya Gum, Pectin), Maltodextrin, Citric Acid, Natural & Artificial Flavor (contains Pineapple Juice), Modified Food Starch, Malic Acid, Beta Carotene (Color), Mono & Diglycerides, Less Than 2% Silicon Dioxide (Anticaking).
source: http://www.precisionfoods.com/foodservice/product_detail.cfm?wpCatId=52568&skuId=795055

Ingredients of Frostline vanilla soft serve mix (same company that makes the Dole Whip mix):
Sugar, Corn Syrup Solids, Coconut Oil, Contains 2% Or Less Of: Sodium Caseinate (A Milk Derivative), Salt, Guar Gum, Potassium & Sodium Phosphate, Mono & Diglycerides, Soy Lecithin, Xanthan Gum, Artificial Flavor, Artificial Color (Yellow 5 & 6).
source: http://www.precisionfoods.com/Foods...ne-Vanilla-Soft-Serve-Mix-Artificially-Flavor


Note that I do not know what brand soft serve is used on DCL ships, but I would be very surprised if it did NOT contain a milk ingredient.

Finally, "sorbet" by legal regulation in the USA is not allowed to contain milk. "Sherbert" however must contain a specified range of milk, and "ice cream" has to contain even more milk. ("milk" used in the generic which includes all forms, such as cream etc). That said, CHECK THE INGREDIENTS EVERY TIME.



(*so, Pineapple Dole Whip served at WDW now no longer contains milk; but the vanilla still does; so, no swirls, but I can have as much pineapple as I want ).

SW

 

[Starwind]

They have sorbet available in the MDRs, with a different flavor every night. They also have Enjoy Life cookies on board if those work for your DS. You can get them in the MDR or through room service. They also had them at Cabanas.

I forgot about Enjoy Life cookies !! Yep yep !!!

I was able to get some in the quick serve area on the pool deck where they have cookies; I explained I have food allergies and asked if they had any allergy-safe ones. They had packaged (2 per package) Enjoy Life cookies. IIRC they were "chocolate chip", the crunchy kind that Enjoy Life makes.

SW

 

[bethy]

In my experience, as someone allergic to milk who has to check ingredients, soft serve "ice cream" almost always contains some amount of milk product.

*Sometimes* a product does not. For example, within the last two years Dole Whip changed the ingredients for their fruit-flavoured soft serve (including PINEAPPLE* ! ) so that it no longer includes a milk ingredient. Previously, it included an ingredient derived from the milk protein casein. HOWEVER, their vanilla and chocolate soft serves still contain the milk ingredient.

In case one ever wondered, the ingredients of pineapple Dole Whip soft serve mix:
Sugar, Dextrose, Coconut Oil, Stabilizers (Cellulose Gum, Xanthan Gum, Locust Bean Gum, Karaya Gum, Pectin), Maltodextrin, Citric Acid, Natural & Artificial Flavor (contains Pineapple Juice), Modified Food Starch, Malic Acid, Beta Carotene (Color), Mono & Diglycerides, Less Than 2% Silicon Dioxide (Anticaking).
source: http://www.precisionfoods.com/foodservice/product_detail.cfm?wpCatId=52568&skuId=795055

Ingredients of Frostline vanilla soft serve mix (same company that makes the Dole Whip mix):
Sugar, Corn Syrup Solids, Coconut Oil, Contains 2% Or Less Of: Sodium Caseinate (A Milk Derivative), Salt, Guar Gum, Potassium & Sodium Phosphate, Mono & Diglycerides, Soy Lecithin, Xanthan Gum, Artificial Flavor, Artificial Color (Yellow 5 & 6).
source: http://www.precisionfoods.com/Foods...ne-Vanilla-Soft-Serve-Mix-Artificially-Flavor


Note that I do not know what brand soft serve is used on DCL ships, but I would be very surprised if it did NOT contain a milk ingredient.

Finally, "sorbet" by legal regulation in the USA is not allowed to contain milk. "Sherbert" however must contain a specified range of milk, and "ice cream" has to contain even more milk. ("milk" used in the generic which includes all forms, such as cream etc). That said, CHECK THE INGREDIENTS EVERY TIME.



(*so, Pineapple Dole Whip served at WDW now no longer contains milk; but the vanilla still does; so, no swirls, but I can have as much pineapple as I want ).

SW

Gosh I would so love to tell my Dairy allergic DH that he can now have Dole whips! But they do list Natural Flavors and we have found in the past that those sometimes contain milk ingredients. Companies are not required to list what is contained in their "natural flavors" and so sometimes they contain milk and sometimes not. I might try and get a confirmation somewhere because we are headed to WDW and a cruise next month and my DH would be over the moon for a Dole Whip!!!

 

[Starwind]

This is only half-way a joke: Is there any dairy in the soft-serve product served on board? It almost certainly doesn't meet the legal definition of "ice cream." Is it possible that there's no dairy in it at all?

I asked on the Fantasy and was told the soft serve contains dairy. Thi

Gosh I would so love to tell my Dairy allergic DH that he can now have Dole whips! But they do list Natural Flavors and we have found in the past that those sometimes contain milk ingredients. Companies are not required to list what is contained in their "natural flavors" and so sometimes they contain milk and sometimes not. I might try and get a confirmation somewhere because we are headed to WDW and a cruise next month and my DH would be over the moon for a Dole Whip!!!

Actually, the above is not true re: flavors. If flavors, colors or food additives contain one of the major food allergens (and milk is one of them), it must be labeled in one of the acceptable ways, such as the "contains:" method.

See from the FDA # 14: http://www.fda.gov/Food/GuidanceReg...latoryInformation/Allergens/ucm106890.htm#q14 QUOTE:

Are flavors, colors, and food additives subject to the allergen labeling requirements?
Yes. FALCPA requires that food manufacturers label food products that contain ingredients, including a flavoring, coloring, or incidental additive that are, or contain, a major food allergen using plain English to identify the allergens.

Also see FDA's guidance to industry: http://www.fda.gov/Food/GuidanceReg...rmation/LabelingNutrition/ucm064880.htm#label QUOTE:

F3. When did the labeling requirements of the FALCPA become effective for packaged foods sold in the United States?
Answer: All packaged foods regulated by FDA under the FD&C Act that are labeled on or after January 1, 2006, must comply with FALCPA's food allergen labeling requirements.

F4. Are flavors, colors, and incidental additives subject to FALCPA labeling requirements?
Answer: Yes. FALCPA labeling requirements apply to foods that are made with any ingredient, including flavorings, colorings, or incidental additives (e.g., processing aids), that is or contains a major food allergen.


See also: http://www.kidswithfoodallergies.or...llergen-labeling-consumer-protection-act.aspx



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Current Dole Whip PINEAPPLE does NOT contain milk. (however note the statement below re: kosher-dairy and what they say, suggesting that there may be shared equipment with rigorous cleaning between runs; each allergic person needs to make a judgement call on whether that is a tolerable risk for them or not; writing to the manufacturer may help clarify what exactly they mean by their statement).

Per manufacturer's website ( http://www.precisionfoods.com/foodservice/product_detail.cfm?wpCatId=52568&skuId=795055 ) (red bold is by me):

Additional Information

• DOLE is a registered trademark of Dole Food Company, Inc. and is used under license.
• Vegan Statement: The ingredients used in this product do not contain dairy, therefore, the product is considered dairy free. The Rabbinical guidelines classify this product to be kosher-dairy. Allergen control and sanitation procedures are in place and are strictly followed. In addition, this product does not contain any animal based ingredients.
• Allergens: None – Based on FDA FALCPA (Food Allergen Labeling and Consumer Protection Act of 2004) “Big 8” allergens.
• Fat Free: **Coconut oil contributes a trivial amount of fat.
  
  Regulatory Approved:
  Made in U.S.A.

At WDW you can always ask to see the label of the package of Dole whip Mix they are using and read the ingredients to make sure there had not been a change. One of the last times I was at the Poly and got one the manager on their own initiative brought me out the package and read the label with me just to make sure it was safe.

SW

 

[Starwind]

Gosh I would so love to tell my Dairy allergic DH that he can now have Dole whips! But they do list Natural Flavors and we have found in the past that those sometimes contain milk ingredients. Companies are not required to list what is contained in their "natural flavors" and so sometimes they contain milk and sometimes not. I might try and get a confirmation somewhere because we are headed to WDW and a cruise next month and my DH would be over the moon for a Dole Whip!!!

Between my last two WDW trips I emailed Disney Special Diets and asked about the Dole Whip to confirm the ingredients and that they were using the top-8-allergen-free version.

Disney had the chef in charge of the MK area where the Dole Whips are email me back in reply and he included photographs of the labels of the vanilla and pineapple boxes. That is how I knew who the manufacturer was for sure And the pictures confirmed they were using the new ingredient version of the Pineapple (vanilla still contains a milk derivative).

It may be worth it for you to likewise email Disney Special Diets. It sometimes takes them several days to reply, but I have always gotten a reply.

SW

 

[bethy]

Between my last two WDW trips I emailed Disney Special Diets and asked about the Dole Whip to confirm the ingredients and that they were using the top-8-allergen-free version.

Disney had the chef in charge of the MK area where the Dole Whips are email me back in reply and he included photographs of the labels of the vanilla and pineapple boxes. That is how I knew who the manufacturer was for sure And the pictures confirmed they were using the new ingredient version of the Pineapple (vanilla still contains a milk derivative).

It may be worth it for you to likewise email Disney Special Diets. It sometimes takes them several days to reply, but I have always gotten a reply.

SW

Wow thank you Starwind for your time in sharing all of that info. So interesting about Natural Flavors. I think I read - probably before 2006 - that Natural Flavors were not labled and so it's good to know this has changed. Every since I read about it, I will say that we have a lot of anecdotal evidence to believe that natural flavors can still sometimes cause an issue with DH. There have been times he's had severe reactions and after wracking our brains the single possible culprit we could find were natural flavors. He makes a point of never eating anything with natural flavors anymore.

Or maybe more likely my DH has suffered the results of cross-contamination in factories. It makes total sense that processes and precautions would vary a lot. In fact he LOVES Kosher foods and foods that are marked Vegan. Both are usually indicators of very low risk for him. But mostly we just shy away from processed foods and stick with whole foods. Nowadays that is a lot harder than it sounds. Nearly everything has "something" in it!

 

[Starwind]

Wow thank you Starwind for your time in sharing all of that info. So interesting about Natural Flavors. I think I read - probably before 2006 - that Natural Flavors were not labled and so it's good to know this has changed. Every since I read about it, I will say that we have a lot of anecdotal evidence to believe that natural flavors can still sometimes cause an issue with DH. There have been times he's had severe reactions and after wracking our brains the single possible culprit we could find were natural flavors. He makes a point of never eating anything with natural flavors anymore.

Or maybe more likely my DH has suffered the results of cross-contamination in factories. It makes total sense that processes and precautions would vary a lot. In fact he LOVES Kosher foods and foods that are marked Vegan. Both are usually indicators of very low risk for him. But mostly we just shy away from processed foods and stick with whole foods. Nowadays that is a lot harder than it sounds. Nearly everything has "something" in it!

Glad to be of assistance.

Based on my experience, my best guess would be if the product he reacted to was made and labeled post-2006 and falls under the FDA labeling requirements (and is from a reputable company) then it is either a mislabeling (i.e. the company was SUPPOSED to have labeled it but did not -- recalls for that happen from time to time) or, more likely, there is a cross-contamination issue such as shared equipment. Those cross contamination issues do NOT have to be labeled -- it is completely voluntary for a company to include any kind of "may contain" label -- and because the contaminant is not an ingredient or incidental additive in the product being made it does not have to be labeled (and really, it should not be there!!).

So, the company that did a milk containing production run and then ran the food you bought but did not do a good enough job cleaning in between... yep, that is cross-contamination and does not have to be labeled because the milk-containing product is not SUPPOSED to be an ingredient in the next production run.

Here is a description of a company's cleaning process from a company that is widely considered to "do it right" with regard to handling cross-contamination, Bob's Red Mill:

"TF: Do you use a particular process for cleaning machines and your facility? If so, why did you choose this particular process?
Bob’s: Yes, we have a full procedure for cleaning machines. All lines are cleaned between runs using air and 30 lbs of the new product is flushed through the system before packaging begins. Production is scheduled with allergens in mind so that cross contact is minimized, for example if a soy product is to be run on a line, only products containing soy are run after it." (source: http://www.tenderfoodie.com/blog/20...ill-on-gluten-free-processing-testing-an.html ).

That said, for some people even that is not sufficient (for their allergy or for comfort level), and there are companies (e.g. Enjoy Life) that are even more stringent, including being top-8+ allergen-free and testing for the presence of the allergens in their final products.


I also steer away from processed foods (soooooo many have milk as an ingredient!! and when you add my other allergens -- 5 of the top 8, plus 1 -- well, it gets even more challenging) and go for whole foods where possible. Like you I also find that that is geting harder as many things have things added to them and sometimes they do not have to be labeled (e.g. chicken is processed with a brine solution). That said, it is much easier now to have food allergies than it was when I was in my teens -- now there are so many options !!! Entire brands that did not exist; substitutes. When I was a teen, the only non-cow milk we could find was goat milk (and it was whole milk with an evil aftertaste, not the nicer 2% they have now) (no soy milks, no flax milks, no rice milks, nada!!). What we did not know then but do now is that I was actually also allergic to the goat milk, just not as badly as the cow's milk. Fortunately neither allergy THEN was anaphylaxis; they are now though.

The downside of whole foods is the time involved in preparing and cooking and cleaning up. I miss the convenience of prepared foods. And some foods I downright miss because I have yet to find a safe version.

SW