"no Speaka English"

[LuluLovesDisney]

As much as we complain about certain cultures, we should at least have a clue what we are complaining about first.

Brasilians don't speak Spanish. They speak Portuguese. And they spell it Brasil.

That said, I worked for five years as a liason in the corporate office of a major international corporation for our internal clients from 37 branchs outside the US. I learned a lot about different cultures over that time. That said, I feel when in Rome, do as the Romans do. If I were visiting a Mosque I would wear conservative clothing and cover my head. If I were traveling through Japan I would take my shoes off before entering a home. The list goes on. It's too bad that many of the foreign visitors to this country don't take the initiative to learn a bit about the cultural norms in the USA.

Now, as far as how I handle line jumpers, etc. I use body language. I sinply position myself so they can't cut in line. And if they try, I "push" my way back to where I was.

Anne

Very well said.

I do agree that it is most DEFINITELY not only foreign guests who cut in line or in the parade route or whatever. I handle all situations virtually the same way- "I'm sorry, you can't stand here" If they don't speak English, I would simply say no and point to a different spot away from me.

As a former cast member, I have experienced certain people using lack of comprehension of the language to sit in a handicapped area of Fantasmic, or crosswalk of the parade or things of that nature. If you keep repeating no and pointing to another place, even those who truly do not understand the language will understand that. I've never once had to call security for a situation like that.

Again, if a cast member is around, they can assist you. For a foreign guest speaking Spanish, (not the Brasilians! ) there is supposed to be a Spanish speaking cast member in each area of each park on duty at all times so as to help with conflicts. Cast members fluent in other languages are around, but are far less common to find.

 

[isanda]

We are visitors from the Uk and it almost a national sport to form a line over here. When we visited WDW last, we did have people cut into lines. We never came across people who pretended not to speak english, but to be honest with you....we are so pleased to be at WDW anyway that a few people who cannot be polite and follow some simple rules are not going to spoil our vacation for us.

We often found when large groups cut in line, then we still got on the ride before them, beacaue they needed smaller group sizes ot complete the boarding of a ride.

What's the worst that can happen.....you will get on your ride a minute or two later than you would have done.

Live life....be happy...........and be content with the fact that you have standards and some people just don't. Their loss, your gain!

 

[GinaGrumpyDwarf]

i dont really recall having a problem with the LINES per se...but I hate it when ANYONE wont move DOWN the row!!!! JEEZE that just gets my panties in a bunch...and I'm pregnant so they are B I G panties!!

Second, I am Half Italian and speak it fluently, can i pretend to not SPEAKA DA ENGLISH when it would benefit me???

 

[bjkj]

Live life....be happy...........and be content with the fact that you have standards and some people just don't. Their loss, your gain![/QUOTE]

Well said!

 

[Michelle2]

My husband speaks spanish fluently, and his friend speaks fluently in Portuguese. They would carry on conversations to each other just fine and can understand what the other is saying...so whether it is portuguese or spanish, they are pretty similiar...and can undstand the other.

Now, as far as how I handle line jumpers, etc. I use body language. I sinply position myself so they can't cut in line. And if they try, I "push" my way back to where I was.

I agree, I would do the same. And I have had just as many Americans try and cut me as much as foreigners...but that has just been my experience.
I can't think of anything clever to say though, I would just try to avoid giving them the opportunity in the first place if possible...

 

[Ducky4Disney]

I haven't had too many line jumpers, but I did have a couple hand over FP's that were invalid - NOT FP's. You know that ticket it spits out with a big black box and white letters, stating that it is not a FP? (like when you all ready have one) They had a stack of those for different rides. The CM tried to tell them that it's not a FP, but they just blinked at him and he signed them so they could enter. I was a bit miffed about the whole thing, but not much I could do.

I see a lot of parents let their kids run to get in line while they mosey in behind and then have to cut in front of people to catch up to their crew. Stick to gether folks.

I would not hesitate to tell a line jumper (any line jumper) that what they did was not acceptable, against WDW rules, and that the line is back there.

D4D

 

[muffyn]

I would also say that those of you looking to be offended, well go ahead, but it was pretty clear to me that the original intent of the post was about people who intentionally break the rules, then prentend not to understand to excuse what they clearly know is bad behavior. If they didn't know that they had done wrong, why pretend to not understand when called on it? Or is lieing also a cultural thing?
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IMO I dont think this post was looking for any advice. I think the OP wanted to vent and use some choice words about all those "foreigners" JMO

No ,you are wrong.
I had just got done reading tons of posts where people were using the phrase "no speaka english" to get their way, at the cost of , yes, even hurting other guests. I had read on other threads, long ago about suggestions on what to say to these people , and wanted some updated' responses, especially a translation to " yes, you DO".
this thread was about someone who is foreign, or is feigning being foreign to do what they want! yup there are enough americans that do that, but that, has been also in other threads, & they DO at least understand English.
I wanted *something* to say to those ignorant disney guests if they tried to barge past US in a line or whatever..... or give some other frightened guest some support (if you doubt what I say, please read some more of the other threads)
I may have a habit of typing things , that can be construed wrong, but I assure you I was not offending any on this board & I was really tame in comparison to what others have written, and had no idea following their leads , that all this would get soooo blown up.

 

[jann1033]

I see a lot of parents let their kids run to get in line while they mosey in behind and then have to cut in front of people to catch up to their crew. Stick to gether folks.

D4D

this used to happen to us all the time but i guess i was the mosier..the problem is the kids ( and parents) would be entering the line when a NFL sized linebacker and his entire football team ( hope this doesn't offend any nfl linebackers and football teams) would shove his way between us, entering from the other side. so we either got trampled or waited till they got in and then move up to the kids ( usually they would realize what they did and let us by) things aren't always so black and white

 

[dejr_8]

Just wanted to say that your costumes look FANTASTIC

 

[SueM in MN]

Well, the concept of lines (queues) are universal, are they not. I would point to the end of it and if this did not work, try to get a CM to come over.

As for standing in front of you, I think you could indicate somehow that your vision was blocked.

Do the CM's have some basic multi-lingual phrases?

Actually, no. The concept of queues is not exactly universal.

We had high school foreign exchange students from Belgium, France, Albania, Russia and Thailand.
They were all somewhat puzzled by the queues and said they don't do things that way in their countries. If they could see a space, they kind of figured it was up for grabs if they could get there.
It especially happened when we were in lines to purchase things in restaurants and stores. To "help" us out, they would offer to squeeze their way to the front.
They could see staying in line for rides, because the line kept moving, but places where we were just standing and could have worked our way to the front around the crowd, they just didn't get why we were standing there. So we did have to do a lot of explaining about manners in the US.

 

[Sammie]

To the OP, are you aware that filters on certain sites automatically remove profanity and replace the letters with symbols. Is it possible this is what you have seen in other threads where you thought they were using the symbols when actually the filter was doing that.

I am sure the moderators will know if this site is set up that way. I know others are.

 

[minijeanie]

luckily for me I have never encountered line jumpers....I do know they exist and yes I would be totally miffed if I was standing in line 10 plus minutes and groups of people cut in front of me.

It seems apparent that the worst offenders are the brasilians. maybe Disney should set up a "world" in Brazil just for them..
would make more sense to me than France...
which hopefully is still not collecting dust...........

 

[*Fantasia*]

I know this may sound kind of harsh.. but forgive me. I think they are narrow minded! They step out of their country... do they know what the word "culture" is? Don't they understand that not all countries do the same thing they do? Do they even know that language from all over the countries are different? What makes them think that what they do at home is the same thing as what we do here? I mean don't they wonder when there's an empty space in line and no one bothers to rush in that space and they are the only ones rushing to those empty spaces in line? Can't they tell that that is not the way to do it in the US? Can't they sense that what they are doing is wrong... when they are the only ones who would rush to that empty spot in line and no one else? Sorry... but where is their half of their brain?

If I go to another country... I will observe... I will not just do what I do from where I come from. Just for example: Let's say we as Americans are okay to pee around the bushes...around the bldgs... around the corner where there's not a lot of people. Let' say this is part of our culture. Let's say we go to Paris. You notice that no one is peeing around the bush or anywhere. Would you pee outside? Of course not! It's called observation to see what is the right and wrong way. Before stepping out of their country, they need to understand that there will be some cultural differences. And they need to respect our culture.

"When you're in WDW, do what Disney folks do... stand at the end of the line and wait your turn and no cutting!"

Blah..blah..blah... Sorry... long!

 

[PixieDust32]

]FYI . . Brazilians don't speak Spanish, they speak Portuguese. [/B]
I have never experienced this and if I did, I would probably just ask them kindly in ENGLISH to move back and point to where they should move to. Sign language is pretty much universal. If they happened to be Spanish-speaking, well then I'm in luck as I speak Spanish myself! If all fails, well, then just leave it alone. Is it really worth it to get all up in arms about it. What goes around comes around. They'll get theirs one day, that's all.

THANK YOU!!!

I speak spanish, I am hispanic and I DONT do that, or my Kids!!

BTW on our last trip a group of people were jumping the rope in RNR and CM had to call for help, they also got in the fast pass line without FP, and guess what????
THey were caucasian!!

 

[mexican-mouseketeers]

Ok, I am truly offended by this post, especially by the one stating something like "dd´s spanish lessons will come handy", it sounds like if someone cuts in line in front of them, that person will surely be spanish speaking.

We are from Mexico, and would never think of cutting a line. That is a matter of education and manners. There are many rude people here, just as there are anywhere in the world.

Portugese and spanish come from the same roots, but definetly are not the same. You could group them with french and italian. I can converse with and italian, but it will take some practice. Definetly they don´t sound alike enough to confuse them. You could confuse gallego and portugese, but not spanish, it would be like a lot like confusing english and german (that have some alike words, but are very different).

And I have had many americans cutting lines in front of us, and it doesn´t make me think bad of all the americans, there are rude people in every race and country, instead I just see the vast majority of people in the parks respecting others and their places in line.

And I guess that if someone, by mistake cut in front of a line, and instead of trying to use 4 letter words on them, one motions them as previous posters have suggested, the line cutters could also make some kind of universal sign for sorry and step out of the line.

Julie

 

[PixieDust32]

Ok, I am truly offended by this post, especially by the one stating something like "dd´s spanish lessons will come handy", it sounds like if someone cuts in line in front of them, that person will surely be spanish speaking.

We are from Mexico, and would never think of cutting a line. That is a matter of education and manners. There are many rude people here, just as there are anywhere in the world.

Portugese and spanish come from the same roots, but definetly are not the same. You could group them with french and italian. I can converse with and italian, but it will take some practice. Definetly they don´t sound alike enough to confuse them. You could confuse gallego and portugese, but not spanish, it would be like a lot like confusing english and german (that have some alike words, but are very different).

And I have had many americans cutting lines in front of us, and it doesn´t make me think bad of all the americans, there are rude people in every race and country, instead I just see the vast majority of people in the parks respecting others and their places in line.

And I guess that if someone, by mistake cut in front of a line, and instead of trying to use 4 letter words on them, one motions them as previous posters have suggested, the line cutters could also make some kind of universal sign for sorry and step out of the line.

Julie

THANK YOU!!!

We are Mexican too and I agree with you, is a matter of manners and education, not language.

 

[DianeV]

I just have one question...obviously many people plan and research their vacations here..do they not do that in other countries? Many of those groups who come here are coming via travel agencies and no one takes the time to tell them how it is? I dont buy the their culture is different so they dont know better defense

 

[Baloo]

Wow...I think this thread has gone far enough.

We're closed.