No more smoking or vaping in the parks

[robinb]

Has Disney actually said that cigarettes and vaping pens will be banned? Or just the smoking of cigarettes and vaping pens?

 

[Klismania]

And where will this end? Will scooters for the disabled be banned next. I have been hit by a few while in the parks and witnessed a 4 year old girls foot broken by one to get to a better parade spot.

I thought I read somewhere that Disney is going to put some kind of motion detector on their ECVs so they'll automatically stop if there is an object within X-many inches of it?

 

[Summer2018]

I am sorry about your MIL's lung cancer and your asthma.

DS's step son has cystic fibrosis and cannot be around smoke. But, outside it doesn't bother him. The Drs even specified "closed in spaces". We are careful not to smoke around him at all but he can't avoid smokers in every walk of life. So, when he is walking through the parking lot at the mall, he is going to walk by smokers. When they go to the beach, he may encounter smokers. But his mom says that being around them outside has never made him wheeze, get sick or have any symptoms. I am just curious what the difference is with his illness and your asthma. (not implying at all that you are not affected by it).

I don't know the reasons why it bothers us and not your son. It just does.

My evidence is the coughing fit I get into shortly after walking through a cloud of smoke and the rapid inability to breathe which requires me to use my Albuterol rescue inhaler. I can no longer go to any casinos because the smoke makes it's way into the non-smoking areas.

My daughter is also triggered by scents in addition to smoke and other allergens. If someone is wearing too much perfume (not spraying it in her face or in closed-in spaces), she will cough and wheeze until her throat closes up, and she must use her rescue inhaler.

That is our experience.

 

[kdonnel]

I thought I read somewhere that Disney is going to put some kind of motion detector on their ECVs so they'll automatically stop if there is an object within X-many inches of it?

If they did this, there would be periods of times when scooters would be stationary due to crowds. I don’t think this idea would be feasible.

 

[robinb]

If they did this, there would be periods of times when scooters would be stationary due to crowds. I don’t think this idea would be feasible.

Can you imagine all the "stalled" ECVs at the end of the fireworks?

 

[cabanafrau]

Obviously smoking is prohibited on airplanes and you cannot bring a lighter or matches onboard, but could you actually have a pack of cigarettes in your carryon or purse when boarding?

 

[amberpi]

Are you walking through them because they are in the main path and you don't have a choice or are you walking through them because that's just the way you want to go?

And aren't there like 2 in all of the MK before this? How are you constantly walking through 2 spots on opposite sides of the park?

There were 2 in MK and 1 that I can recall in HS.

 

[quandrea]

Excellent!!!!

 

[cabanafrau]

I thought I read somewhere that Disney is going to put some kind of motion detector on their ECVs so they'll automatically stop if there is an object within X-many inches of it?

I'm no math or physics wiz, but I do know that this is a matter where an object in motion tends to remain in motion ... would dictate whether or not that would be feasible for a conveyance that would be utilized in a crowd. Considering the physics involved I'd say not a chance.

 

[amberpi]

Obviously smoking is prohibited on airplanes and you cannot bring a lighter or matches onboard, but could you actually have a pack of cigarettes in your carryon or purse when boarding?

You can have a carton of cigarettes in your carryon. DH/exDH and my dad all smoke some specific brand and no others will do so they travel prepared. Trying to get loose tobacco through TSA is more interesting though. Tons and tons of more people roll their own just to be "artesianal" or something. I've had friends who do and it's a PITA.

 

[SirDuff]

If they did this, there would be periods of times when scooters would be stationary due to crowds. I don’t think this idea would be feasible.

Actually they are (or, at least, testing it). And, from the few reports on the DISabilities board, it is working about as well as you'd think.

https://www.disboards.com/threads/sensors-on-ecvs.3740384/

 

[kdonnel]

Obviously smoking is prohibited on airplanes and you cannot bring a lighter or matches onboard, but could you actually have a pack of cigarettes in your carryon or purse when boarding?

Actually you can carry both your cigarettes and your lighter onto the plane with you.

 

[RUDisney]

Actually you can carry both your cigarettes and your lighter onto the plane with you.

You can carry a regular lighter, but not a torch lighter. My DH learned that the hard way. He had to go back to the car to leave his torch. It was special to him because he bought it in Russia. He didn't want it thrown away or confiscated.

 

[TipsyTraveler]

It seems to me the best option would be to follow the model of the Tokyo parks — fully enclosed, ventilated smoking rooms. Smokers have enough designated areas throughout the parks that they don’t resort to breaking the rules to get their fix, and the smoke stays contained so as to not bother other guests in the vicinity.

(Pics taken from Google)

 

[luvsJack]

I don't know the reasons why it bothers us and not your son. It just does.

My evidence is the coughing fit I get into shortly after walking through a cloud of smoke and the rapid inability to breathe which requires me to use my Albuterol rescue inhaler. I can no longer go to any casinos because the smoke makes it's way into the non-smoking areas.

My daughter is also triggered by scents in addition to smoke and other allergens. If someone is wearing too much perfume (not spraying it in her face or in closed-in spaces), she will cough and wheeze until her throat closes up, and she must use her rescue inhaler.

That is our experience.

Perhaps for him, the problem is the actual smoke. (they can't have a fireplace, for instance but he can be around a bon fire as long as he doesn't stand directly in the smoke) and for you its the smell or part of it is the smell. I just find it interesting.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Although when I told my husband about the ban, I was expecting him to say we will just not be able to go anymore, he said it might help him decide to quit!! Big change from the guy I had to BEG to actually take a trip to Disney a few years ago!! Maybe it will help some other Disney lovers like us finally kick the habit!

My mom informed me last week that my grandmother, who has smoked a lot for 67 years is in the process of quiting with the patch. She's currently 3 months smoke free.

I sincerely hope she lasts. She has COPD, her husband (my grandfather) who smoked for many years also had COPD and was a contributing factor (though not the whole reason) to him passing away. Both my grandparents were alcoholics and while I don't know if my grandmother will ever stop drinking I can still hope on that too.

Good luck to your husband! I hope he's able to do it

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I totally agree. I smoke but I can and have gone most if not all day without one when in a place that doesn't allow it or if the DSAs are spread way out. But I do object to them choosing to ban something (anything) over just enforcing the rules they have.

Well they've been actively reducing the DSA areas over the last couple of years. I *think* the thoughtprocess was the door has been open for an eventual removal of all DSAs especially as mentality towards smoking (and now the vaping concerns and behaviors) have adjusted over time.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I think it's unreasonable to ask a person to leave the park every time they want to smoke.

While the size of the parks can make a difference the act of requiring someone to exit to smoke is not new and hasn't been since no smoking inside restaurants and bars has become commonplace.

It's not unreasonable to ask a person to leave the park every time they want to smoke any more than it would be unreasonable to ask a person to smoke outside beyond the X number of feet from the entrance to a building, restaurant or bar.

I do understand, like I said with the size it can make a difference, but it's still the same thing as other places too.

Now will they stop people from coming in with cigarettes and vaping devices? IDK I'm not sure I see that as fair because they can smoke outside the parks just not inside the parks.

Enforcement will still be an issue but if there's no smoking period allowed inside the parks I would imagine it would be easier than a half-hearted attempt to get people to smoke only in specific areas. Might be easier to say "you need to exit the parks to smoke please".

 

[The Mayor]

It will truly be as smoking ban when it’s banned on the whole property completely. If someone wants to kill themselves smoking they don’t need to bring me along with them from second hand smoke!!

 

[Hrhpd]

I have never been to a stadium, concert hall, movie theatre, airplane or restaurant that wouldn't allow smokers to carry their cigarettes. And all of those places except airplanes tend to have very easily accessible (within maybe a 5 min walk) smoking areas, despite being places people spend far less time at a stretch than theme parks. But the other thing all of those places have is people who will tell someone, "Hey, you can't smoke here." Disney doesn't have that.

Of the 32 NFL stadiums, the majority (last count was 29) do not allow smoking anywhere inside the stadium. The DSAs are located outside the portals. The problem with that is most of them also don't allow re-entry. So, if you do go out to smoke, you cannot return to the game.

In my home town, going out to eat or to the movies is not just a 5 minute walk because not only are the restaurants/theaters/any public place smoke free, but so is the city business center including sidewalks and alleys, so no just stepping outside to have a smoke. You have to go find your car and sit in it to smoke. And even there, some companies have prohibited smoking on any part of their property, mostly tech companies and labs that do not want you to bring in residual smoke. So, if your car is in their private parking lot, no smoking. You can go home and smoke. Smoking is purposely made to be very, very, very difficult.

In my area, if you think anti-vaxxers are vocal, they can't hold a candle to the anti-smokers. So, I am not at all surprised that Disney is following current trends and banning all smoking inside the parks. And as somebody else pointed out, it is infinitely easier to police a complete smoking ban than a partial ban in only parts of Disney.

I am not saying I agree with Disney, but they are just following the current trend of making things smoke free because that is what the majority is demanding.