No it's not that I don't like it I'm allergic!

[Chelley00]

Call me cynical, but I do not believe this part one bit. A hospital kitchen has experience in cooking for all types of situations. I do not believe that they could not provide you with any food based on your allergies. Sorry, I just don't.

Honestly, it depends on the size of the hospital. I don't get many options if I'm inpatient at the local county hospital, but they can feed me...sorta. (canned fruit, salad of lettuce and carrots and only one type of dressing, possibly a chicken breast if they are baking it that day, maybe a plain baked potato) They are set up to mass cook to feed many people, not just patients, but also guests, employees etc, and they may not have the space to cook safely for multiple allergies, especially someone who has many different ones. They may try, but it's limited and not always safe.

The bigger hospital near me told me they needed a days notice to research and prepare. I laughed that they expected me to know I was going to be admitted a day before I went into the ER. Thankfully, the cafeteria manager came to see DH and together they worked out a plan, and thankfully I wasn't hungry the first day I was there.

 

[Wishing on a star]

I love the chocolate sauce story!!!

Bottom line, I don't care if there are a few people out there who feel that they have had to exaggerate or lie about an 'allergy'.

ANYBODY WHO IS COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT IS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE WRONG PERSON/PROBLEM.

I really just don't get it.
It is way to self absorbed and negative and PC.

The bottom line, especially with those who have serious allergies, is that everyone band together to supoort the idea that EACH PERSON SHOULD BE WELCOME, AND HAVE THE SIMPLE RIGHT, TO BE IN CONTROL OF WHAT THEY PUT IN THEIR OWN BODY.

We should all be on the same side here!

Look at the bigger picture.

The real and true and only problem is with those who refuse to respect that.
Who are basically such control freaks (almost a mental illness) that they feel they can and should determine what goes into another person's mouth.
No way, ever, at all, is that ever another person's business.

 

[ashley0139]

I suppose it's just Disney covering their behinds rather than 'dictating' what people can and can't eat. If the person wanted tomatoes, he could have gotten some at the topping bar. But WE would not serve him tomatoes. Disney does not want to ever be held liable for making someone sick. If your friend had gotten sick, and mentioned, well, I'm lactose intolerant, but I said I could have chocolate sauce so they gave it to me, that blame is shared by both Disney and your friend.

No, the blame would just be on my friend. Why would Disney share any of that blame? She asked for it.

I get that it's a liability in today's sue-happy society. But I think it's abhorrent that they think they can be making decisions for people based on the limited information they have (on that person). I'm gluten free, and have been for 20 years. Once in a while, I'll have a little non gluten free soy sauce in a dish. No one has the right to tell me that I'm not allowed to have soy sauce. It's my body. I'm not going to die, I'm not even going to get sick. And even if I did, if I chose to have it, then that's on me. It's not up to Disney, or anyone else to say no.

 

[Wishing on a star]

I totally agree, Ashley.

The only way that I could see Disney, or any other company having any liability is if they were to, for example, present a food as allergen free, such as free of gluten, peanuts and tree nuts, and then serve the food which did actually contain the allergen. Negligence. Etc.

 

[WDSearcher]

I don't know ... I'd really rather Disney err on the side of caution than not. Unless the person serving the chocolate sauce (most likely a CP CM) knew the composition of the sauce and could be certain in their own head that giving the sauce to the Guest wasn't going to harm them, I'd much rather someone get yelled at for trying to be safe than hand over the sauce and then watch a person get sick because the sauce has something in it that was unexpected. I would imagine most people who aren't affected by allergies have no idea what the differences are between lactose intolerance and allergies.

Then again ... I also can't imagine getting that mad about chocolate sauce.

 

[ashley0139]

I don't know ... I'd really rather Disney err on the side of caution than not. Unless the person serving the chocolate sauce (most likely a CP CM) knew the composition of the sauce and could be certain in their own head that giving the sauce to the Guest wasn't going to harm them, I'd much rather someone get yelled at for trying to be safe than hand over the sauce and then watch a person get sick because the sauce has something in it that was unexpected. I would imagine most people who aren't affected by allergies have no idea what the differences are between lactose intolerance and allergies.

Then again ... I also can't imagine getting that mad about chocolate sauce.

Oh come on. Obviously it wasn't about the chocolate sauce. It was about the fact that this CM (or really, the company that taught him/her to do this) thought they could make a decision for my adult friend. The chocolate sauce story is just one example. I've seen it countless times at the parks.

I would have no problem if my friend asked for the sauce and the CM said, "I'm sorry, it has dairy in it." And obviously they couldn't just put it on without asking or checking with the person. But as soon as she said she could have it anyway, they should have given it to her.

I'm all for airing on the safe side. This isn't that.

 

[WDSearcher]

Oh come on. Obviously it wasn't about the chocolate sauce. It was about the fact that this CM (or really, the company that taught him/her to do this) thought they could make a decision for my adult friend. The chocolate sauce story is just one example. I've seen it countless times at the parks.

I would have no problem if my friend asked for the sauce and the CM said, "I'm sorry, it has dairy in it." And obviously they couldn't just put it on without asking or checking with the person. But as soon as she said she could have it anyway, they should have given it to her.

I'm all for airing on the safe side. This isn't that.

I think you're putting a motive behind the CM that wasn't there. I just don't see it as a CM consciously trying to control your friend's decision. I think it was a confused CM who didn't know the difference between lactose intolerance and a dairy allergy trying to keep a Guest from getting ill.

If you really are seeing that type of thing as often as you say, though, I'd consider maybe letting Disney know what you're seeing. In their effort to avoid any types of food-related lawsuits (particularly in the wake of last year's Wild Africa Trek situation), it's certainly possible that they are being TOO vigilant. And if that's true, then they need to know that it's affecting peoples' vacations.

 

[ashley0139]

I think you're putting a motive behind the CM that wasn't there. I just don't see it as a CM consciously trying to control your friend's decision. I think it was a confused CM who didn't know the difference between lactose intolerance and a dairy allergy trying to keep a Guest from getting ill.

If you really are seeing that type of thing as often as you say, though, I'd consider maybe letting Disney know what you're seeing. In their effort to avoid any types of food-related lawsuits (particularly in the wake of last year's Wild Africa Trek situation), it's certainly possible that they are being TOO vigilant. And if that's true, then they need to know that it's affecting peoples' vacations.

I actually said in my post that it wasn't the fault of the CM but Disney's policies. And I have let Disney know about this and my dislike of the practice.

 

[WDSearcher]

I actually said in my post that it wasn't the fault of the CM but Disney's policies. And I have let Disney know about this and my dislike of the practice.

Yes, but the CM is still the one who got yelled at. That's all I meant.

 

[Mickey'snewestfan]

Oh come on. Obviously it wasn't about the chocolate sauce. It was about the fact that this CM (or really, the company that taught him/her to do this) thought they could make a decision for my adult friend. The chocolate sauce story is just one example. I've seen it countless times at the parks.

I would have no problem if my friend asked for the sauce and the CM said, "I'm sorry, it has dairy in it." And obviously they couldn't just put it on without asking or checking with the person. But as soon as she said she could have it anyway, they should have given it to her.

I'm all for airing on the safe side. This isn't that.

In your friend's case, it sounds like she did the right thing by calling it "lactose intolerance" from the beginning.

I'll give you an example from my local sushi bar. We eat there sometimes with my son's friend who is allergic to shellfish. When he orders, and we explain the allergy, they get out a fresh knife, and a fresh towel to wipe the knife on, and a fresh cutting board, and a fresh bamboo mat. They also cut a fresh piece of salmon or tuna, because the ones they already have cut and ready to go might have been cut with a contaminated knife. They change their gloves and take other steps.

They're willing to do this to keep a child safe, but if the same child then ordered something with shrimp, they'd have reason to be upset that they took all those precautions for nothing. Frankly, I'd stand by their right to refuse the shrimp.

Rice Dream is more expensive than ice cream. Disney doesn't charge more when it's due to allergies, but I imagine there might be people who claim allergies when they really just want the lower calorie product. Not letting people claim a dairy allergy, and then add dairy foods seems like one way to handle that.

 

[marthachick]

Every time I eat any type of fish, I get really sick. Not sure if it's intolerance or an allergy. When I mention this to people, a lot of times, they'll say, well maybe if it were grilled or broiled...you might be able to eat it that way. All I know is, I don't like fish enough to puke my guts up all night like I did the last 2 times I ate it.

 

[dama2000]

Anyone here go on the DDream? I'm going to be cruising this month and am concerned about safely eating on board.

And yes I feel your pain....people don't understand food allergies and all that goes into them, unless they end up being allergic to something.

 

[Conservative Hippie]

Anyone here go on the DDream? I'm going to be cruising this month and am concerned about safely eating on board.

And yes I feel your pain....people don't understand food allergies and all that goes into them, unless they end up being allergic to something.

I've been on the dream twice. My allergies are easier to avoid, but I didn't have any trouble at all.