No Disney this year!

[smallworldnh]

It's become reality that Disney vacations are for people who have higher incomes. Hate to break it to you, but Disney is doing just fine even with the price increases. The only way you're going to be able to go back to Disney is if you get a job that gets you a higher income.

If you can't afford to go, you are not Disney's target customer anyway.

That was an incredibly snobbish and insensitive thing to say. So too bad for those who can not afford a trip to Disneyworld because they are not one of the fortunate chosen ones who are either born with a silver spoon in their mouths or are lucky enough to have a high paying job in this economy or are married into money?? Hate to break it to YOU but we poor unwashed masses actually have dreams of being able to go as well and it's in very poor taste to make the comments that you made.

 

[ilovemk76]

i've seen people posting here about their bathroom habits and other fairly private issues lol, posting that you aren't going to disney anymore hardly ranks on the scale of undignified message board acts to me.

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[glamdring269]

I actually thoroughly disagree with this. A ride closure? Yes, that would effect me. Someone who has taken a dozen Disney vacations having a tantrum about voluntarily changing vacation plans? Does not effect me.

The way they distribute fast passes is changing. No, scratch that, it already has changed. If people don't like it, then that's too bad and I understand why they'd take their business elsewhere. But I find the level of entitlement absolutely overwhelming. If you don't like heights, don't go skydiving. If you get seasick, don't take a cruise. If you're scared of bears, don't go camping. But don't get angry at the plane, the boat and the animals. If you don't want to wait in lines, don't go to a theme park. Or go to a theme park that more closely matches your goals. Which is what the OP stated, but I fail to see why one person's apparently staggeringly difficult decision to drive to a different place to ride a roller coaster and eat hot dogs has any effect or impact on anyone else's vacation.

Geez, if we all took this attitude I would be drinking New Coke right now. The horror!

 

[JillianMarie]

Oh that's nice. People posting that they cancelled their trips now have no dignity.

I'm pretty sure when I was at Disney there was nobody outside the gates with picket signs "yelling at the steak". Posting on a message board is not losing your dignity.

Oh, well, I'm not sure that there's a tremendous amount of dignity to be found in any sort of message board interaction. But, that's the digital age in which we live I suppose.

 

[JeremyGNJ]

That was an incredibly snobbish and insensitive thing to say. So too bad for those who can not afford a trip to Disneyworld because they are not one of the fortunate chosen ones who are either born with a silver spoon in their mouths or are lucky enough to have a high paying job in this economy or are married into money?? Hate to break it to YOU but we poor unwashed masses actually have dreams of being able to go as well and it's in very poor taste to make the comments that you made.

I think your comment is unfair. The poster is just stating a fact. You may have dreams of going to Disney...and I may have dreams of owning a Ferrari. But it doesn't change the fact that I cannot, and might not ever own a Ferrari.

It doesn't mean that I'm putting myself down as "some lowly poor sucker". It just means that product is unavailable to me. Just like Disney is unavailable to people at some incomce levels...and that level is rising due to demand.

 

[kbelle8995]

I think your comment is unfair. The poster is just stating a fact. You may have dreams of going to Disney...and I may have dreams of owning a Ferrari. But it doesn't change the fact that I cannot, and might not ever own a Ferrari.

It doesn't mean that I'm putting myself down as "some lowly poor sucker". It just means that product is unavailable to me. Just like Disney is unavailable to people at some incomce levels...and that level is rising due to demand.

Most people could never afford a Ferrari. It's apples and oranges comparing it to Disney which is supposed to be for families. Ferrari's not so much

I have been going for eons. I have gone from staying on deluxe to moderates to Values. I went from a going a week to a day here and there. The charge goes up and I and others get less and less

 

[smallworldnh]

I think your comment is unfair. The poster is just stating a fact. You may have dreams of going to Disney...and I may have dreams of owning a Ferrari. But it doesn't change the fact that I cannot, and might not ever own a Ferrari.

It doesn't mean that I'm putting myself down as "some lowly poor sucker". It just means that product is unavailable to me. Just like Disney is unavailable to people at some incomce levels...and that level is rising due to demand.

I have been to Disney several times, I'm not wealthy but thankfully I am in a situtation where I can plan for a trip every couple of years. In fact I cancelled the trip I had booked this year and it wasn't for financial reasons. I just think those particular comments came across as being very insensitive to those who can not go when they choose and have to wait and save for years. Maybe I took it out of context but I don't think so as I saw a few other posts that saw it the way I did. It's sad that Disney is becoming unavailable to those at the lower income levels and that people in those circumstances can't even dream of taking their kids.

 

[JeremyGNJ]

At one point a Harley Davidson motorocycle was not so much of an elitist purchase. Now, they are very expensive and you have to be on a waiting list to get one.

Same thing. Brands change over time. I'm not arguing whether that's good or bad, or anything. Just that the person was only stating the fact that Disney slowing being less attainable to some income levels.

 

[Bullseye]

I think the only "objection" I have to this thread is that OP posted almost word for word the same post a few weeks ago. Venting and maybe even secretly hoping that someone will talk you out of leaving....well, that's one of those posts that happen often, not fun to read someone voicing the things maybe I don't want to think about....but to repeat it hoping for either different responses (more sympathetic perhaps) or worse, hoping to incite anger like a troll would do, well, that personally annoys me.

Now I fully expect a half dozen to agree with me.....and another dozen to tell me I'm being insensitive or rude or I don't understand or something.


One of the nice things about DIS is that it's full of a variety of people.....and they love Disney as much as I do, and therefore might understand the obsessing over minor and major details, certainly more than my non-Disney loving husband, lol.

Reposting the same thread, repeatedly, to tell people that you're not going back, is possibly a wee bit undignified.

It's the message board version of, "I'm taking my ball and going home!"

Next week: "Did anyone hear me? I'm going home!"

Next month: "Guess what! I'm not playing with you any more!"

Both of these. The OP is a repeat almost word for word! It's the ops right to post her feelings, but how many threads need to be started about her own personal situation?

 

[kbelle8995]

So she decided to someplace else for her vacation and post it on the boards. Why all these posts later this still urks some people.

Busch Gardens Williamsburg and the area of Virginia it's in is a beautiful spot and the OP's family will have a great time.


Then again I'm still posting too.

 

[EwwwBeverly]

So she decided to someplace else for her vacation and post it on the boards. Why all these posts later this still urks some people.

Busch Gardens Williamsburg and the area of Virginia it's in is a beautiful spot and the OP's family will have a great time.

Then again I'm still posting too.

Because seriously, why bother making this thread? What can it possibly accomplish beyond, well, everything in this thread?

 

[morethananyonex]

Because seriously, why bother making this thread? What can it possibly accomplish beyond, well, everything in this thread?

If the thread is so useless, why are so many people (including you) wasting time reading and responding? I guess that's one of its accomplishments.

 

[Davey Jones II]

Well, sure. I would go somewhere that more closely aligns with my values and my budget, but I'd do it with a little bit of dignity. I wouldn't stand outside the restaurant and yell at the steak. I am not entitled to that particular steak. I am entitled to getting $20 worth of food. If I can get more food elsewhere, I'm definitely going to go elsewhere. But being personally offended that the restaurant is changing its policy doesn't really enter into it.

What if theme parks are your favorite vacation destination (probably the case for many/most on these boards) and Disney's policies are ruining or impinging on the enjoyment of your vacation? So they are giving you two unpalatable choices: either go somewhere else that you won't enjoy as much, or keep going to Disney and you won't enjoy it as much as before. When presented with two lousy choices, it's understandable that people get
upset.

Maybe "the customer is always right" is an antiquated expression these days, but I don't think "take it or leave it" and "my way or the highway" are good attitudes for a business to have, either. If Disney's policies cause people to change their vacation plans, then they certainly should hear about it -- and yes, I have heard that they do read these boards.

I also think that many fans who are currently contemplating or planning an upcoming trip probably want to know why and whether a lot of people are changing travel plans because of Disney policies.

 

[JillianMarie]

What if theme parks are your favorite vacation destination (probably the case for many/most on these boards) and Disney's policies are ruining or impinging on the enjoyment of your vacation? So they are giving you two unpalatable choices: either go somewhere else that you won't enjoy as much, or keep going to Disney and you won't enjoy it as much as before. When presented with two lousy choices, it's understandable that people get
upset.

Maybe "the customer is always right" is an antiquated expression these days, but I don't think "take it or leave it" and "my way or the highway" are good attitudes for a business to have, either. If Disney's policies cause people to change their vacation plans, then they certainly should hear about it -- and yes, I have heard that they do read these boards.

I also think that many fans who are currently contemplating or planning an upcoming trip probably want to know why and whether a lot of people are changing travel plans because of Disney policies.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. When presented with two lousy choices, find a third choice. I mean, I suppose you can be mad that the multi-billion dollar company isn't going to bend over backwards to make you happy - that's your choice. If you loved something, but it changed and you no longer love it then just move on because it's not the thing you love anymore. They're asking you to stand in line for Splash Mountain, they didn't burn it to the ground and salt the earth while dancing and pointing and the poor suckers who showed up to ride it.

 

[mom2rtk]

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. When presented with two lousy choices, find a third choice. I mean, I suppose you can be mad that the multi-billion dollar company isn't going to bend over backwards to make you happy - that's your choice. If you loved something, but it changed and you no longer love it then just move on because it's not the thing you love anymore. They're asking you to stand in line for Splash Mountain, they didn't burn it to the ground and salt the earth while dancing and pointing and the poor suckers who showed up to ride it.

Enjoy your Pepsi.

 

[JillianMarie]

Enjoy your Pepsi.

Hee. That swill? Never!

 

[ktlm]

Enjoy your Pepsi.

Two words: "New Coke" (Some of you are probably way too young to know what I'm talking about!)


Great post Davey Jones II!

 

[Kristine316]

Do people honestly believe this? Newsflash! There are millions of people who go to WDW every year, and many, many of them discover that it is not for them or that they are done and elect to move on. Only an unmeasurably small percentage of those people who elect not to return post here. In fact, this board is made up of people who LOVE WDW. Perhaps irrationally so. This board is comprised of the people who are most willing to and most likely to overlook Disney's warts. The "general public" or "typical guest" is far more likely to cut ties with Disney than someone who posts here. This is not an "I hate Disney" board. It is the opposite. So let's put an end to the silly and unsubstantiated pronouncement that the only people who are disappointed with WDW (whether that be for price or operational issues), are 14 Board members who post here. Disney cares about every person who elects not to return. They may not be able to do anything to win back their business, but they don't shrug it off and attribute the loss to being just a single voice from the Dis Board.

I just love this response. Just wanted to add that.

 

[mom2rtk]

Hee. That swill? Never!

What, you don't care for the third option?

The rest of us are still holding out for something closer to Coca Cola Classic.

The announcement from Disney doesn't solve everything. But it could turn out to be a decent first step.

 

[JillianMarie]

What, you don't care for the third option?

The rest of us are still holding out for something closer to Coca Cola Classic.

The announcement from Disney doesn't solve everything. But it could turn out to be a decent first step.

Nope. That's why this girl drinks water which I find to be a wonderful third option.