NO 911 Calls allowed from School. Tragic consequences.

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<font color=red>I had to wonder what "holiday" he
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I don't know what is more disturbing; the fact that such a memo exists in an apparent attempt to make the school "look safe", or the employees who knew that this was an emergency but were more concerned about their jobs that this student's life or health.




How Queens school failed Mariya Fatima after stroke
By CARRIE MELAGO
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Monday, September 10th 2007, 4:00 AM

Mariya Fatima, 14, suffered stroke at Jamaica High School - and went more than hour before help was called - two weeks after memo prohibiting 911 calls by deans.

The typed words on the school memo are as direct as they are stunning: "No Deans are permitted to call 911 for any reason."
An assistant principal at Jamaica High School wrote the order just two weeks before ninth-grader Mariya Fatima suffered a stroke at the Queens school in April.
Employees waited more than an hour before calling 911, according to court records, costing Mariya crucial minutes of medical treatment, a delay that may have made her paralysis worse.
A month after Mariya collapsed, the same assistant principal sent out another memo, flip-flopping and telling the deans it was okay to call 911, but instructing them to downplay assaults.
The author of the memo and the school's principal have both since left Jamaica High School, but that's little comfort to Mariya's family.
"You take it for granted that your child is going to be safe, but if they don't want to call 911, no matter what the circumstances, your child is not protected," family lawyer Gary Carlton said.
Mariya, who lost use of her right hand and leg, has had to relearn how to speak and walk since the stroke.
She's receiving home instruction, but her reading skills have dropped to a fifth-grade level.
"I want to go back [to school]," she recently told the Daily News. "I feel lonely."
The memos, obtained by The News, shed light on the lengths some educators will go in order to improve crime statistics and avoid harsh penalties.
In February, Jamaica High School was placed on the city's impact list of dangerous schools. Some staffers said they felt penalized for honestly reporting crime. They also said they felt pressured to drive down the stats.
Seemingly to that end, Guy Venezia, the assistant principal for security, sent the one-line memo to the school's deans on April 12, instructing them not to call 911.
"We said, this is going to blow up in your face. You really don't want to do this," said one of the deans, who asked to remain anonymous. "We knew this was a disaster in the making."
Just 15 days later, 14-year-old Mariya began vomiting in class about 7:20 a.m. She was taken to the main office. According to Carlton and a lawsuit filed in Queens Supreme Court, 911 wasn't called until 8:54 a.m.
About a month after Mariya's stroke, Venezia sent out another memo, this one announcing that deans "are sanctioned to make 911 calls." But he also told the deans, "Do not use the word assault to describe a physical altercation."
The apparent effort to drive down the crime stats failed, since the school was put on the state's persistently dangerous list this summer and could face ramifications under the No Child Left Behind Act.
"The impact-school status did lead to some crazy overreactions, and obviously this is one of them," said James Eterno, the teachers union chapter leader at the school.
Education officials said Principal Jay Dickler was voluntarily reassigned as supervisor of a suspension center and Venezia resigned from Jamaica to become a teacher at Hillcrest High School in Queens.
Venezia declined to discuss the case but insisted, "I always place the welfare of the child above all other considerations."
Dickler did not return a call for comment.
The city Education Department doesn't comment on pending litigation, but the chancellor's regulations state that school staffers must call 911 in a medical emergency.
Carlton said Mariya's family, who are visiting relatives overseas, were disgusted to learn of the existence of the memos.
"They were hoping that this was not true, but now it turns out that it was," he said.
cmelago@nydailynews.com
 
What I don't understand is why that knucklehead is still employed by the school. :confused3
 
The school is completely liable - I hope the parents sue and get tons of money. What idiots!
~Amanda
 
That is one of the most disturbing rules I've ever read. I cannot even believe it was put into effect.
 

The school is completely liable - I hope the parents sue and get tons of money. What idiots!
~Amanda

I hope they win as well. I can't imagine such selfish workers/teachers/nurse/whoever responded, so concerned about their own jobs, and their own lives, that they would risk this student's life.
 
Why did no one call 911 from their cell phone and just not leave their name if they were that worried about their jobs.
 
30 years ago ( before cell phones), my boyfriend at the time suffered a serious injury at school and NONE of the teachers or administrators would call an ambulance OR his parents. He cut off his finger in woodshop and was bleeding profusely. There was no school nurse on duty and his shop teacher simply told him to leave the classroom and go find help. A friend went with him and they went to the office where the office aid, principal and assistant principal all not only refused to help, would not allow them to use the phone. From there they went from teacher to teacher asking for help. Blood dripping along the way and of course, the boy was going into shock. Finally, another boy going down the hall saw what was happening and ditched school to take them to the hospital. At the hospital, they then obviously called the parents.

His parents sued the school and won. The teachers and admins had refused to help, they said, because they felt if they offered help and it went wrong they would be personally liable.
 
Wow, that's just horrible. I cannot believe the pressure being put on the teachers to make the school appear safer than it actually is.
And I'm shocked no one did call 911 right away anyway. I wonder if only a couple of teachers/nurse/administration folks knew what had happened since they took her to the office right away.
Her teacher may have thought someone called after he/she returned to their room to teach. It may have just been a nurse and/or a school secretary that knew no one had been called.
I'm not excusing those folks but I am thinking it might have really been just one or two people fully aware of the situation and chosing not to call. Better that than thinking a whole school full of adults didn't care enough about this child's health/life to call.
 
30 years ago ( before cell phones), my boyfriend at the time suffered a serious injury at school and NONE of the teachers or administrators would call an ambulance OR his parents. He cut off his finger in woodshop and was bleeding profusely. There was no school nurse on duty and his shop teacher simply told him to leave the classroom and go find help. A friend went with him and they went to the office where the office aid, principal and assistant principal all not only refused to help, would not allow them to use the phone. From there they went from teacher to teacher asking for help. Blood dripping along the way and of course, the boy was going into shock. Finally, another boy going down the hall saw what was happening and ditched school to take them to the hospital. At the hospital, they then obviously called the parents.

His parents sued the school and won. The teachers and admins had refused to help, they said, because they felt if they offered help and it went wrong they would be personally liable.

Unbelievable. It is no wonder that the parents won. The schools serves en loco parentis and has a responsibility to provide what parents would provide in case of emergency; basic emergency care! Anyone could have used their cell phones to call in the case of the most recent situation. No doubt cell phones are banned too!:rolleyes: I don't know who complies with arbitrary rules and laws when life and health are in the balance.
 
The memos, obtained by The News, shed light on the lengths some educators will go in order to improve crime statistics and avoid harsh penalties.

There is a whole lot of CYA that goes on in schools. Some administrators like to "advertise" that their decisions are motivated by doing what's best for the children. :rolleyes: As demonstrated in this sad case, there are times when these decisions are definitely not in the best interest of the student. Lots of CYA. :sad2:
 
I honestly do not know which is more disturbing the idiot that sent out the memo or the staff that would not call 911. There is a time when you step up to the plate and tell the administration to stick it and call for help. All parties involved, should be dealt with severely for this incident.
 
Smoking Gun..................

Time for a Big Check to be written.
 
That is one of the most disturbing rules I've ever read. I cannot even believe it was put into effect.

I totally agree. That school should be held responsible. I would be furious if that happened to my DD.
 
I hope that little girl gets a lot of money from the school. :(

I wonder if most of that money is from the local taxpayers though. And how much worse the school will get when it loses that money.

What a horrible situation.
 
I wonder if most of that money is from the local taxpayers though. And how much worse the school will get when it loses that money.

What a horrible situation.

The school should have thought about that. This poor girl may have a permanent disability because of careless indifference. Schools that loose money under these conditions deserve to be shut down. They aren't safe because the adults in charge have no common sense.
 
Another one :scared1: :mad: :sad2: ! I remember a few months ago of an article in the Daily News about a boy who died of an asthma attack b/c the school refused to call 911. That was also in NYC. That's what I thought the article you posted was about.
 
Another one :scared1: :mad: :sad2: ! I remember a few months ago of an article in the Daily News about a boy who died of an asthma attack b/c the school refused to call 911. That was also in NYC. That's what I thought the article you posted was about.

It sounds as if they didn't get sued enough the first time! Unbelievable!
 
It sounds as if they didn't get sued enough the first time! Unbelievable!

Different schools though. Jamaica HS, I believe is in Queens (2 counties over from me). The other one (IIRC) took place in the heart of NYC; Manhattan.
 


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