NJ Drivers under 21

NJ law is hands-free, and our town had that law years before NJ did. Doesn't stop them, especially the texting.

In MN any texting or emailing, etc. is a $300 fine if caught. Teens under 21 that get caught texting lose their license until age 21. That's not to say that people don't do this but at least they can get pulled over for it. The young kids are pretty good about NOT texting and driving because they don't want to lose their license-it's the 21-30 year olds that are the problem.
 
In MN any texting or emailing, etc. is a $300 fine if caught. Teens under 21 that get caught texting lose their license until age 21. That's not to say that people don't do this but at least they can get pulled over for it. The young kids are pretty good about NOT texting and driving because they don't want to lose their license-it's the 21-30 year olds that are the problem.

What a great law! :thumbsup2
 
As the mom and dad of a 17 year old girl, we will not allow her to display this special sticker. While I agree with the idea behind the law, we do not feel it is safe. It is like putting a great flashing light with an arrow pointing down at her car for first any weirdo who decides to put some flashing light on his 'unmarked car', and pretend to be law enforcement.]

Agreed. When our children reach driving age, we will enforce the driving rules (curfew, number of passengers). In fact, we will probably be far stricter than the law. However, there is no way I would feel comfortable singling out their car in this manner.
 

I seem to recall some troublesome history regarding the exploitation or 'profiling' of some FL drivers identifiable as likely being foreign tourists due to the rental agency stickers on their cars. How did that turn out in the end?

When enough predators on "Megan's Law" lists realize that they can use "Kyleigh's Law" stickers to identify easy underage prey, we will likely see an increase targeted attacks and abductions, perhaps even resulting in more "Amber Alerts".

But I have no doubt that should this situation arise, the fine system of reactionary politics that thrives in NJ will not hesitate to form a new state commission to investigate the situation, thus allowing a whole new group of political cronies to pad their pension accounts with yet another public service job from whiich to retire.

Then they will pass a new law, named for some unfortunate victim of Kyleigh's Law, which charges residents and drivers a new, higher fee to have the stickers removed from their cars.

It's the NJ way of life.
 
Don't they cell phone restrictions, at least for teens?

We have cell phone restrictions for everyone. Hands free only. I drive the Garden State Parkway every day to and from work for 40 miles and I can tell you it doesn't matter what the law is. People are still always on their cell phones or texting behind the wheel.

I think teen drivers don't need to be targeted any more than elderly drivers or middle age drivers. The police should be looking for people breaking the laws and not focusing on one age group. Perhaps parents could step up and tell the kids that they either follow the rules or they will not be allowed to drive.
 
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...I think teen drivers don't need to be targeted any more than elderly drivers or middle age drivers...

They are not targeting teen drivers, they are targeting drivers with provisional licenses. This has nothing to do with age. It is about experience. Inexperienced drivers can be a real menace if they do not follow the rules set forth for them.
 
They are not targeting teen drivers, they are targeting drivers with provisional licenses. This has nothing to do with age. It is about experience. Inexperienced drivers can be a real menace if they do not follow the rules set forth for them.

If that was true, the decals would apply to all new drivers. However, the decals are only for drivers with provisional licenses who are under age 21. Someone over age 21 does not have to use the decal even if they got their license yesterday.
 
We have cell phone restrictions for everyone. Hands free only. I drive the Garden State Parkway every day to and from work for 40 miles and I can tell you it doesn't matter what the law is. People are still always on their cell phones or texting behind the wheel.

A local 17 year old high school student died yesterday when she crashed into a tree. Rumor has it she was texting.

I see MANY drivers talking on their cell phone. What is so important that people have to use their cell phone/text while driving?
 
i feel bad for kids these days. it seems like the fun has just been sucked out of EVERYTHING for them. now they can't even drive without having the police watching their EVERY move.
 
A local 17 year old high school student died yesterday when she crashed into a tree. Rumor has it she was texting.

I see MANY drivers talking on their cell phone. What is so important that people have to use their cell phone/text while driving?

and sometimes accidents are just that....ACCIDENTS. "rumor has it" is not a fact. spreading the "rumor" isn't making her death any easier for anyone, by the way.

remember, they used to actually make carphones....PHONES IN YOUR CAR! and now all of a sudden it's illegal!?

i don't generally do much with my phone when i'm in the car, and i can't even text because i have a touch screen phone anyway(it's almost impossible to text with that) but if there's some sort of emergency or if i forgot something and wanted to remind someone of it, now i'm going to get harrassed for using the phone for a few minutes.

there's plenty of other things that are just as distracting. we still have passengers in the car who we conversate with. that can be distracting. and we can still listen to music in the car, that can also be distracting.

i just get frustrated with everyone jumping on the "OMG THEY WERE TEXTING WHILE DRIVING AND NOW THEY'RE DEAD/HURT" train.
 
If that was true, the decals would apply to all new drivers. However, the decals are only for drivers with provisional licenses who are under age 21. Someone over age 21 does not have to use the decal even if they got their license yesterday.
Do they give out provisional licenses to people over 21?
 
They are not targeting teen drivers, they are targeting drivers with provisional licenses. This has nothing to do with age. It is about experience. Inexperienced drivers can be a real menace if they do not follow the rules set forth for them.
Really? I must be reading this wrong then, because what I see is that the decals are for drivers under the age of 21. That has everything to do with age. Bad drivers come in all ages and graduating from the provisional license doesn't mean anything.
The state Motor Vehicles Commission on Wednesday unveiled red decals that new motorists under the age of 21 must display on their license plates, making New Jersey the first state to alert police when a young driver is behind the wheel.
 
LiLIrishChick63 said:
remember, they used to actually make carphones....PHONES IN YOUR CAR! and now all of a sudden it's illegal!?
Respectfully, if the "63" in your DIS name is your year of birth - you must remember when there were NO car phones. We survived.

I'm NOT saying ban phones in cars. I understand emergencies. I'm MUCH happier with a cell phone when I get a flat, than having to hope somebody stops or that I'm in a location where I can find a public phone, or even a business that would let me use their phone, or a nearby resident willing to call a tow truck for a stranger (and no, I don't break down THAT much - these are just examples).

But with all the crazy drivers out there, is it really necessary to add the distraction of one's own phone conversation - at ANY age - while driving? What's truly that important that can't wait until the driver can pull safely out of the flow of traffic?
there's plenty of other things that are just as distracting. we still have passengers in the car who we conversate with. that can be distracting. and we can still listen to music in the car, that can also be distracting.
Multiple persons in the car - assuming the driver isn't facing the back seat, yelling at the kids to behave :lmao: - are actually safer, possibly even than just a driver. More eyes to notice what's going on around you and to make sure the driver's aware. Listening to music is passive; it doesn't require nearly the concentration or active participation that texting or a phone conversation does.
 
Respectfully, if the "63" in your DIS name is your year of birth - you must remember when there were NO car phones. We survived.

I'm NOT saying ban phones in cars. I understand emergencies. I'm MUCH happier with a cell phone when I get a flat, than having to hope somebody stops or that I'm in a location where I can find a public phone, or even a business that would let me use their phone, or a nearby resident willing to call a tow truck for a stranger (and no, I don't break down THAT much - these are just examples).

But with all the crazy drivers out there, is it really necessary to add the distraction of one's own phone conversation - at ANY age - while driving? What's truly that important that can't wait until the driver can pull safely out of the flow of traffic?

no, '63 is not the year i was born in. that would be the month and the day i was born on. June 3rd, thank you.

i just want to know why everyone is SO quick to jump to "OMG THEY MUST HAVE BEEN ON THE PHONE/TEXTING!"??? sometimes it IS an accident. i'm just sick of hearing everyone going on about "oh well....he/she must have been on the phone, otherwise they wouldn't have gotten in that accident"....there are plenty of other distractions, like i said.

and there are plenty of people who can talk on the phone AND drive at the same time without getting into an accident.
 
Respectfully, if the "63" in your DIS name is your year of birth - you must remember when there were NO car phones. We survived.

I'm NOT saying ban phones in cars. I understand emergencies. I'm MUCH happier with a cell phone when I get a flat, than having to hope somebody stops or that I'm in a location where I can find a public phone, or even a business that would let me use their phone, or a nearby resident willing to call a tow truck for a stranger (and no, I don't break down THAT much - these are just examples).

But with all the crazy drivers out there, is it really necessary to add the distraction of one's own phone conversation - at ANY age - while driving? What's truly that important that can't wait until the driver can pull safely out of the flow of traffic?

Agree - I pull over for anything more than a "hello" call. If they decided that I couldn't even take that kind of call anymore, I wouldn't mind one bit.
 
There are restrictions on a 21 year olds license in new jersey, really? I think thats insane. That driver has 5 years driving experience. I don't understand why their license would STILL have restrictions on it.
 
...and there are plenty of people who can talk on the phone AND drive at the same time without getting into an accident.

And there are plenty of people that can drive drunk without getting into an accident. The point - even if you think that you can drive safely, you are not giving driving your full attention. That fact, in and of itself, increases the likelihood of your being in an accident if something that you do not expect happens.
 

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