News Round Up 2019

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Hours have been decreased in more recent years though. Instead of maybe 2-3 extra hours at might it’s only 1-2. Parks themselves are also closing earlier than before it seems. MK and Epcot average a 9PM close whereas in years past it was 10PM.

But many if them do reduce the hours- ie 10 pm MK close on Saturday night in July.

I was there mid July last year. There were no DAH or parties. MK still closed at 10pm on Saturday July 14. We had 11pm on 16-18 (with 1am EMH closing on 7/18).
So even without the events, the parks aren’t consistently open late in the summer as they once were.

Agreed. Regular hours (mostly in MK and Epcot) have shortened from what they were years ago. But in the PAST FEW YEARS they have been relatively steady, with a major mess-up summer of 2017 (insanely early MK closures). With this as a base -- not years ago as a base since we ALREADY LOST those hours -- all of these paid additions are in fact ADDITIONS; they're not removing MORE hours this year to add them in. The exception is adding more MNSSHP and MVMCP dates than they used to, but even that has been happening for a couple of years now.

My point is that the added EMM and DAH events this year are not removing MORE hours from the "new normal" base hours they started setting a few years back.

It's all a matter of time horizon you look at: if you look at 10yrs ago as compared to now, it's a net decrease of FREE hours being replaced by PAID hours for sure. But over the past few years these are net adds. The genius of Disney taking away for a while before they added something back... ;) Hope that's clearer than my earlier posts on this. :)
 
Agreed. Regular hours (mostly in MK and Epcot) have shortened from what they were years ago. But in the PAST FEW YEARS they have been relatively steady, with a major mess-up summer of 2017 (insanely early MK closures). With this as a base -- not years ago as a base since we ALREADY LOST those hours -- all of these paid additions are in fact ADDITIONS; they're not removing MORE hours this year to add them in. The exception is adding more MNSSHP and MVMCP dates than they used to, but even that has been happening for a couple of years now.

My point is that the added EMM and DAH events this year are not removing MORE hours from the "new normal" base hours they started setting a few years back.

It's all a matter of time horizon you look at: if you look at 10yrs ago as compared to now, it's a net decrease of FREE hours being replaced by PAID hours for sure. But over the past few years these are net adds. The genius of Disney taking away for a while before they added something back... ;) Hope that's clearer than my earlier posts on this. :)
This makes sense except until the notion of “Disney taking away before adding back.” In that case, YES, the hours were reduced to add in the paid events. :( Just with a gap of time between...
 
This makes sense except until the notion of “Disney taking away before adding back.” In that case, YES, the hours were reduced to add in the paid events. :( Just with a gap of time between...
That's precisely what I said. :)

It's all a matter of time horizon you look at: if you look at 10yrs ago as compared to now, it's a net decrease of FREE hours being replaced by PAID hours for sure. But over the past few years these are net adds.
 
Agreed. Regular hours (mostly in MK and Epcot) have shortened from what they were years ago. But in the PAST FEW YEARS they have been relatively steady, with a major mess-up summer of 2017 (insanely early MK closures). With this as a base -- not years ago as a base since we ALREADY LOST those hours -- all of these paid additions are in fact ADDITIONS; they're not removing MORE hours this year to add them in. The exception is adding more MNSSHP and MVMCP dates than they used to, but even that has been happening for a couple of years now.

My point is that the added EMM and DAH events this year are not removing MORE hours from the "new normal" base hours they started setting a few years back.

It's all a matter of time horizon you look at: if you look at 10yrs ago as compared to now, it's a net decrease of FREE hours being replaced by PAID hours for sure. But over the past few years these are net adds. The genius of Disney taking away for a while before they added something back... ;) Hope that's clearer than my earlier posts on this. :)
I’m cracking up at the use of the phrase “free hours” as if they aren’t paid for with a ticket. Disney has us all duped!
 

Going through the above link also takes me to another one posted on Dec. 20, 2017 which includes seven offsite hotels with benefits. These were available from January 1 – December 31 2018 obviously Disney negotiated new contracts for 2019 where can I find that information?
What do you mean? Those 7 were just extended through 2019.
 
I think you know what I mean. Included with ticket price. And nobody is being “duped”.
Of course I knew what you meant. But the hours are by no means free. The duped comment was meant in jest, as in they are duping is into forgetting that we paid for tickets and are starting to refer to them as “free” hours.
 
Of course I knew what you meant. But the hours are by no means free. The duped comment was meant in jest, as in they are duping is into forgetting that we paid for tickets and are starting to refer to them as “free” hours.
I don’t think anyone forgets spending that kind of money...! ;)
 
Thank you!

No prob. Hoping to come back in 2022 - if they are still doing this by then, that's the direction I'm headed. We are a family of 5 and just stayed at CBR which was fine, but my next trip I want a suite... I was browsing DVC and Deluxe and had to pick my jaw up off the floor with the prices. Double tree seems like a good deal for what we need. Of course, who knows what anything will be like in 3 years.
 
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