News Round Up 2017

[rteetz]

Photo Update

Disneyland Update

http://micechat.com/181073-disneyland-resort-update-tis-season-crowds-construction/

 

[rteetz]

News

Wall down around The Edison and Maria and Enzo’s

http://www.wdwmagic.com/dining/mari...a-and-enzo,-enzos-hideaway-and-the-edison.htm

 

[TheMaxRebo]

We're in NYC for a few days (work trip extended) and last night we went to Saks Fifth Avenue Christmas windows and they are in celebration of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs 80th anniversay! Their holiday light show also was for Snow White. The windows basically tell the story of Snow White.

Here are some pictures (it's hard to get them without a bunch of people lol):
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we were there yesterday as well (though mid-afternoon) - I thought they were very nice. I won't duplicate all your images but I did take some video of the windows that had movement to them, below is a gif of one of them

Also, around the sides they had a ton of fancy dresses that designers created that were inspired by Snow White - here is me in front of one of them

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

we were there yesterday as well (though mid-afternoon) - I thought they were very nice. I won't duplicate all your images but I did take some video of the windows that had movement to them, below is a gif of one of them

Also, around the sides they had a ton of fancy dresses that designers created that were inspired by Snow White - here is me in front of one of them
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That's really cool that you were there yesterday as well

I took photos of all the displays for Saks including the fancy dresses ones but I didn't want to blast the thread with too many photos lol. That pic you took is my fav fancy dress window I just couldn't get as close as you did without a bunch of other people in the way. My husband put on his patience cap while I went to every window for Saks that I could see was decorated and moved in and around the people to get the pics

 

[sachilles]

Just a quick look at ride times. Amazes my that flight of passage is 210 minutes. I'm amazed people wait that long.....3.5 hours is a bit much for any ride, even if it's mind blowing.

 

[rteetz]

Just a quick look at ride times. Amazes my that flight of passage is 210 minutes. I'm amazed people wait that long.....3.5 hours is a bit much for any ride, even if it's mind blowing.

Just wait for Star Wars...

 

[jknezek]

Just a quick look at ride times. Amazes my that flight of passage is 210 minutes. I'm amazed people wait that long.....3.5 hours is a bit much for any ride, even if it's mind blowing.

Here is what surprises me. The average cost for a WDW Park ticket is probably around $80. More for a one day, less for annual passes and multi days depending on how often you go, but I bet I'm not off by more than $10 either way. If you wait 4 hours to get on a ride, given a 10 hour park day, that ride just cost $32. FoP is 4.5 minutes long. That is $7.11 per minute.
Now I'm guessing more people willing to wait are AP or long term vacationers, so those numbers are probably skewed pretty high, but there are very few entertainment options in this world worth $7 a minute. For example, Avatar the movie was 2 hours 49 minutes. It would cost over $1200 to see it at that rate...

 

[AMusicLifeForMe]

Just a quick look at ride times. Amazes my that flight of passage is 210 minutes. I'm amazed people wait that long.....3.5 hours is a bit much for any ride, even if it's mind blowing.

I have waited 4 hours because the ride didn't open for EMH and stood outside for 3 more hours until the ride opened. I ended up being like 20th in line for that reason. I don't know if I would do that again, but I had nothing else planned except riding that attraction one morning so I just stood and waited.

I have also been used to waiting that long for rides/shows since I grew up around Disneyland and that's usually what the locals do (especially for Paint the Night). So, I'm ok to wait that long for 2 reasons...

1) I travel to WDW often.
2) I'm an annual pass holder.

I did notice the day I waited that long that the "average" vacationer that only goes once a year was not waiting in that line. It was mostly AP holders that stayed until the attraction opened.

Also, people can get done with AK rather early if they wanted to. Especially now with everyone going to Pandora. I have been on every attraction in AK within the first 2 hours before, and that has been after Pandora opened. If you are done with a lot of the park, then might as well stand in line and wait since you have the rest of the day at your disposal.

 

[SouthFayetteFan]

Here is what surprises me. The average cost for a WDW Park ticket is probably around $80. More for a one day, less for annual passes and multi days depending on how often you go, but I bet I'm not off by more than $10 either way. If you wait 4 hours to get on a ride, given a 10 hour park day, that ride just cost $32. FoP is 4.5 minutes long. That is $7.11 per minute.
Now I'm guessing more people willing to wait are AP or long term vacationers, so those numbers are probably skewed pretty high, but there are very few entertainment options in this world worth $7 a minute. For example, Avatar the movie was 2 hours 49 minutes. It would cost over $1200 to see it at that rate...

I've thought about this myself too but I think isolating one attraction isn't quite fair as this could be the case at any amusement/theme park. Looking at it over the course of the day - perhaps you rope drop Navi River, use fastpasses at Safari & Everest, Wait 20 minutes to get in and see FOTLK and Nemo and use a FP to see Rivers of Light too...looking at it on a blended basis now how does the calculation work out? While I don't disagree with the assessment that it is in expensive proposition, it's potentially unfair to analyze it on that one ride alone.

 

[jknezek]

I've thought about this myself too but I think isolating one attraction isn't quite fair as this could be the case at any amusement/theme park. Looking at it over the course of the day - perhaps you rope drop Navi River, use fastpasses at Safari & Everest, Wait 20 minutes to get in and see FOTLK and Nemo and use a FP to see Rivers of Light too...looking at it on a blended basis now how does the calculation work out? While I don't disagree with the assessment that it is in expensive proposition, it's potentially unfair to analyze it on that one ride alone.

Well... when you are doing it by time it's not unfair, just math. If you are devoting 40% of your time in the park to one ride, then you are implying it is worth 40% of your cost. The other rides, whether there are 2 more or 5 more, will each split the remaining ticket cost. It's a very simplistic analysis of opportunity cost.

 

[amalone1013]

new pre-fix lunch menu announced for Tiffins (no pricing available yet)

I like that it is a sampler for both the appetizer and dessert so you get to try a few things:
http://www.wdwinfo.com/news-stories...ounced-for-tiffins-at-disneys-animal-kingdom/

They had these menus on the table when we ate at Tiffins on Sunday. I want to say it was $49.

 

[amalone1013]

News

New limited release California Screamin and Galactic Nights shirts

http://wdwnt.com/blog/2017/12/limit...actic-nights-shirts-now-available-shopdisney/

So if these are on ShopDisney, how does it know if you're an AP for DLR? If only these had come out in time to get it for my husband for Christmas...

 

[SouthFayetteFan]

Well... when you are doing it by time it's not unfair, just math. If you are devoting 40% of your time in the park to one ride, then you are implying it is worth 40% of your cost. The other rides, whether there are 2 more or 5 more, will each split the remaining ticket cost. It's a very simplistic analysis of opportunity cost.

Simply pointing out that you can analyze this differently. In our same example somebody else could also take the $80 and divide by 7 attractions and say you spend $11.43 per attraction. Somebody else may see it differently yet again and say the line is themed so a portion of that time should counts too. I personally think taking the time in line as a percentage of time in the park divided over length of attraction is not quite an accurate portrayal of what that experience "costs" you. But if that's the way you prefer to analyze it, I respect that too.

For me...I'd pay the $80 to sit on a bench and just enjoy being with my family in the warm air, for some, riding/seeing the attractions are just a bonus, haha!

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Man creates change.org petition to have Disney take The Last Jedi out of cannon he hates it so much .... fans of the film send him death threats

Glad to see people aren't overreacting or anything

http://www.wdwinfo.com/news-stories...the-film-out-of-canon-receives-death-threats/

 

[Flyerjab]

Man creates change.org petition to have Disney take The Last Jedi out of cannon he hates it so much .... fans of the film send him death threats

Glad to see people aren't overreacting or anything

http://www.wdwinfo.com/news-stories...the-film-out-of-canon-receives-death-threats/

When I saw that he had amassed a whopping 1800 signatures. I wonder how much of a fraction of 1% that equates to when considering the total amount of people that have seen the movie so far.

 

[jknezek]

Simply pointing out that you can analyze this differently. In our same example somebody else could also take the $80 and divide by 7 attractions and say you spend $11.43 per attraction. Somebody else may see it differently yet again and say the line is themed so a portion of that time should counts too. I personally think taking the time in line as a percentage of time in the park divided over length of attraction is not quite an accurate portrayal of what that experience "costs" you. But if that's the way you prefer to analyze it, I respect that too.

For me...I'd pay the $80 to sit on a bench and just enjoy being with my family in the warm air, for some, riding/seeing the attractions are just a bonus, haha!

Well sure. There are an infinite number of ways to analyze anything. But saying that you rode 8 rides over an $80 ticket makes them all the same is not what I was analyzing. It's the opportunity cost of going on each ride, which is the function of the time spent waiting for each since that is time that can't be spent waiting for something else. Time is the proxy for money, since money buys the opportunity of time. My way isn't "right" as there is no single right, but it does illustrate the tradeoffs people are willing to make as a percentage of ticket per ride. It's overly simplistic, but interesting to me.

 

[skier_pete]

I am with the "i won't wait 210 minutes for a ride" crew - mostly because I've never in my life had to. Between Rope Drop and FP we rarely if ever wait more than 20 minutes for a ride, so 210 minutes seems mind blowing. (Actually the longest I've ever waited in line was I waited for about 40 minutes to get a FP for Radiator Springs Racers, but that avoided a 5 hour wait. )

I just got my FP+ for this ride for February, so no plans to wait 210 minutes for us. We're going to rope drop the River Journey, so hopefully that won't be more than 30 minutes or so at rope drop. I am a bit concerned about what happens in August when TSL is opened. I suspect neither Slinky Dog or Alien Spinner will be worth the lines that will likely be present, and I'm guessing Disney will include the Toy Story rides all on a Tier 1.

 

[sachilles]

How many days into your vacation did you get the pass? 60? 60+1? 60+2?
Our window opens shortly for our trip that starts Feb 27. No desire to wait beyond an hour, and really don't want to rope drop FOP.

 

[rteetz]

How many days into your vacation did you get the pass? 60? 60+1? 60+2?
Our window opens shortly for our trip that starts Feb 27. No desire to wait beyond an hour, and really don't want to rope drop FOP.

60+1 or more is best odds. However Disney is routinely holding back FPs and releasing them later so if you were not to get one keep checking. I got a second FoP FP about 30 days out.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

How many days into your vacation did you get the pass? 60? 60+1? 60+2?
Our window opens shortly for our trip that starts Feb 27. No desire to wait beyond an hour, and really don't want to rope drop FOP.

safest bet is as late in your trip as you can ... anecdotally I have seen them readily available at 63 days out - then limited less than that