News Round Up 2017

Yeah, I don't think there were a lot of the Mod resorts then, probably no values... but we were at Beach Club, and I know Yacht Club was there too, and I think Boardwalk was just opening...(might have been the next trip though). And EPCOT was open, and Hollywood Studios (MGM then) was open, and DT Disney... But it certainly wouldn't work today. It's pretty good the way it is now, especially with the schedule boards at the resorts. I wish they would put those in the parks too! But it can always be improved upon.

I think the addition of the Minnie Vans is great for larger groups and families with little kids... We loved the convenience on our last trip, but we sure wouldn't use it for everything. We were sure glad to have that option because of bus delays (waited about an hour at the resort), though, once when our FOP FP was in danger of being lost!


Interesting. Beach and Yacht Club opened in 1990. Studios opened in '89. Boardwalk didn't open until '96 I believe. I don't think the transportation worked that way in the mid 90s. At least not from my memories. I remember having to go to the TTC to get to various resorts from the late 80s through the 90s maybe? And then late 90s I remember them switching more toward the Parks. But I'm not real firm on those dates either. Lots of those trips run together!
 
"jlundeen, post: 58521750, member: 355684"It's pretty good the way it is now, especially with the schedule boards at the resorts. I wish they would put those in the parks too! But it can always be improved upon.

I really wish the schedule boards could be incorporated into MDE
 
Unfortunately, doing this may not work either. I recently did a Backstage Magic Tour. We started at the front of Epcot and then walked backstage and got on a Mears bus and drove backstage to the American Pavillon. I saw just able all of the backstage area of Epcot. I don't see them putting a path through the backstage area.

I haven't recently looked at an ariel view of either side of Epcot, but I don't think there really is any way that a path could be built that would basically go behind the show buildings of Future World and yet be separated from the backstage area. Basically they would have to create a tunnel for this to happen and I just don't think there is space to make this happen. The backstage area has lots of buildings that are really close together. You just don't realize it when you are actually in the park.
For sure. You run backstage at Epcot during runDisney races and it would be hard to do so.
 
Now we can hit this on arrival night. Seeing it by 10pm was a stretch... but no insterst in giving up park time on another night for it.

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Annual Passholders can get a special holiday Passholder magnet at DHS

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/passholder-program/specials/?CMP=SOC-FBPAGE20171129160000
This is sort of silly but I want one... and I ended up with a F&W passholder button even though I thought they were dumb and I was really looking foraward to glasses (first time to F&W)
For the crowd that was concerned about how the Guardians ride would affect the view of Spaceship Earth: Hold onto your hats before you click on that link...
Oh man, I can't send this one to DH.
 

I think you folks might be thinking of the other side of the park.

You have near straight shot from the proposed hotel site over to beach club. It would be fairly easy to run down the resort side of the canal. No real back stage stuff to see, if they cross the canal early enough.
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I think you folks might be thinking of the other side of the park.

You have near straight shot from the proposed hotel site over to beach club. It would be fairly easy to run down the resort side of the canal. No real back stage stuff to see, if they cross the canal early enough.
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Where are you connecting the front of the park skyline station too? You would need to build another turn station I would think. Seems like a lot of work to connect the front of a park to the back with probably little return.
 
though I do have to say that I hadn't seen it before as being right at the entrance to the park, only to the side a bit. That would kinda suck to not see Spaceship Earth from the parking lot/as you walk up to the park
I hear what you are saying and don't disagree. However if you think about it none of the other park icons are truly visible until you are inside the park. It might make a more dramatic reveal in some sense.
 
I hear what you are saying and don't disagree. However if you think about it none of the other park icons are truly visible until you are inside the park. It might make a more dramatic reveal in some sense.

Although the purposely made Cinderella's Castle big enough to see it peak out while riding the monorail to the gates to help tease and build excitement, but largely you are correct

And maybe it is one of things we all will get used to over time, but I am sure initially it will be jarring
 
Interesting. Beach and Yacht Club opened in 1990. Studios opened in '89. Boardwalk didn't open until '96 I believe. I don't think the transportation worked that way in the mid 90s. At least not from my memories. I remember having to go to the TTC to get to various resorts from the late 80s through the 90s maybe? And then late 90s I remember them switching more toward the Parks. But I'm not real firm on those dates either. Lots of those trips run together!
Yep...went back and did the math...it was 86 we did our first Disney trip (Disneyland ) and then did the 20th anniversary in WDW...so it was early 91....all inclusive package.... we spent all our time in restaurants that trip! Must have been a later trip that BWI was open....
 
I just saw Coco. I have to say that it was an amazing film! As a musician, I really connected with the story line. It was visually beautiful. The music was amazing. I have to agree with what others have said that I didn't see the twist coming at all, but I thought it was brilliantly written. I don't know where this ranks for me, but it is up there in my top 3 favorite Pixar films I would say.

The Frozen short was...uh...Frozen. I don't know about anyone else, but the animation threw me off especially at the beginning. It took me some time for me to actually recognize some of the characters. I found Kristoff to be the worst. It took me a while to recognize him. I don't know if it is a different type of animation, but I wish they would have stuck with how they did the original movie. I feel like there were 1-2 songs that were not necessary. I actually liked the story side of it, but there were way to many "cheesy" spots during the short.
 
I just saw Coco. I have to say that it was an amazing film! As a musician, I really connected with the story line. It was visually beautiful. The music was amazing. I have to agree with what others have said that I didn't see the twist coming at all, but I thought it was brilliantly written. I don't know where this ranks for me, but it is up there in my top 3 favorite Pixar films I would say.

The Frozen short was...uh...Frozen. I don't know about anyone else, but the animation threw me off especially at the beginning. It took me some time for me to actually recognize some of the characters. I found Kristoff to be the worst. It took me a while to recognize him. I don't know if it is a different type of animation, but I wish they would have stuck with how they did the original movie. I feel like there were 1-2 songs that were not necessary. I actually liked the story side of it, but there were way to many "cheesy" spots during the short.

Totally agree about the animation. Though, back when the first trailers for frozen came out, my thoughts were that the animation looked terrible and couldn’t believe it was a Disney film. That style grew on me, but again, the short did take my surprise
 
For the crowd that was concerned about how the Guardians ride would affect the view of Spaceship Earth: Hold onto your hats before you click on that link...

though I do have to say that I hadn't seen it before as being right at the entrance to the park, only to the side a bit. That would kinda suck to not see Spaceship Earth from the parking lot/as you walk up to the park

I actually think a well-positioned hotel would do wonders to frame Spaceship Earth. Currently, the monorail station mucks up the view when approaching from the parking lot.

epcotentrancehotel.jpg


Step one would be to change the angle of the monorail track as it enters and leaves the park. Basically, move the track closer to the Universe of Energy (RIP) and Living Seas buildings. Doing that opens the "frame" for Spaceship Earth.

Next, create two hotel towers (not too tall) on either side of the main entrance. Connect the towers via a single concourse on the second level that stretches the length across the main entrance. Day guests walk through the building on the ground level. All the ticket booths and entrance gates would be protected from the weather under the building. I'm not quite sure where the security checkpoints or parking lot trams would go, however.

Then, throw a signature restaurant on the second floor that looks over the newly designed entrance plaza (without the tombstones) and call it a day. Having a two-story building directly in front of the entrance wouldn't be any more visually intrusive than the current monorail station.

The monorail station could be connected to the tower on the Living Seas side. The main lobby of the hotel would be in the tower on the other side.

Of course, doing this would cost tons of money. The cost of reconfiguring the monorail route in that area would probably not be worth the cost. I'd say that putting any new hotel directly in front of the main entrance is not likely.

Link to Bing Map: https://binged.it/2j3eHm6
 
I actually think a well-positioned hotel would do wonders to frame Spaceship Earth. Currently, the monorail station mucks up the view when approaching from the parking lot.

epcotentrancehotel.jpg


Step one would be to change the angle of the monorail track as it enters and leaves the park. Basically, move the track closer to the Universe of Energy (RIP) and Living Seas buildings. Doing that opens the "frame" for Spaceship Earth.

Next, create two hotel towers (not too tall) on either side of the main entrance. Connect the towers via a single concourse on the second level that stretches the length across the main entrance. Day guests walk through the building on the ground level. All the ticket booths and entrance gates would be protected from the weather under the building. I'm not quite sure where the security checkpoints or parking lot trams would go, however.

Then, throw a signature restaurant on the second floor that looks over the newly designed entrance plaza (without the tombstones) and call it a day. Having a two-story building directly in front of the entrance wouldn't be any more visually intrusive than the current monorail station.

The monorail station could be connected to the tower on the Living Seas side. The main lobby of the hotel would be in the tower on the other side.

Of course, doing this would cost tons of money. The cost of reconfiguring the monorail route in that area would probably not be worth the cost. I'd say that putting any new hotel directly in front of the main entrance is not likely.

Link to Bing Map: https://binged.it/2j3eHm6

I agree with everything you said.

I think this is just a rumor that was thrown out there just like the rumor that came out last year that they would GUT the entire Grand Floridian.

The cost of this hotel would be very very high. To change the monorail will be very costly and time consuming.

Imagine the Epcot monorail being completely down for month or so if not more for construction. Would be a nightmare.
 
Where are you connecting the front of the park skyline station too? You would need to build another turn station I would think. Seems like a lot of work to connect the front of a park to the back with probably little return.
I'm not. I was responding to the comment of where to put a path from the rumored resort in front of epcot to connect with the boardwalk, beach club complex without going through the park.

If a skyliner were to go from the IG to front of the park, you'd likely go up and over. That being said, turns of 60° or less are much less of a production, so if they wanted to "curve" the line it wouldn't be a challenge using towers with standard bases.
 
I'm not. I was responding to the comment of where to put a path from the rumored resort in front of epcot to connect with the boardwalk, beach club complex without going through the park.

If a skyliner were to go from the IG to front of the park, you'd likely go up and over. That being said, turns of 60° or less are much less of a production, so if they wanted to "curve" the line it wouldn't be a challenge using towers with standard bases.
Would that walk be shorter than say the Epcot resort area to DHS?
 














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