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yeah, exactly - so I can see a ton of families that would be willing to pay some more for a Disney van driven by a Disney CM that is likely to be better equipped to handle multiple kids that needs car seats and room for their stuff, etc. - vs some random persons car that you don't really know what it is other than what is on your phone screen. Which is why I think both this and Uber can co-exist with those that are just adults or have used Uber before using that since it is cheaper and others going with Disney's

I would think the drivers of these MinnieVans would also be better prepared to answer questions about the parks (times of parades, etc) - so just more of that Disney service level
There are people who have concerns over things like Uber (and let's be honest Uber has had their fair share of controversy).

They may just prefer to stick with something Disney branded for a variety of reasons but are not limited to overall feeling of safety and trust, unfamiliarity in what Uber is and does and how it works, potential for unique Disney information that Uber may not have as you mentioned (if a passenger is interested in that), potential for better navigation throughout the property, potential for a better option given the traveling party itself, etc. That sort of stuff isn't just for families.
 

I used to sit on the armrests between the front seats of the car. Never had a car seat. At work I watch 4th and 5th graders getting in and out of car seats and booster seats all the time. Kids in my state have to be at least 8 AND 4 ft 9 inches before they can use the regular seats in a vehicle. I remember thinking the van driver told me almost exactly what my state laws were.

In my state it's by age and weight, but they are suggested. So I guess that would make it up to the discretion of an officer if they felt it was unsafe, which kinda annoys me. IL loves their vague laws and statutes...
 
A big thing Disney has over uber is trust. People will trust Disney transportation over uber which is someone your don't know.

It goes beyond trust for some of us that refuse to patronize ride-sharing companies. Some of us believe that these are just illegally operated cab companies that attempt to skirt regulations by falsely calling themselves technology companies. They aren't; they're cab companies.

To each his or her own, but I'm not willing to support a company that blatantly ignores laws and regulations.
 
It goes beyond trust for some of us that refuse to patronize ride-sharing companies. Some of us believe that these are just illegally operated cab companies that attempt to skirt regulations by falsely calling themselves technology companies. They aren't; they're cab companies.

To each his or her own, but I'm not willing to support a company that blatantly ignores laws and regulations.

It's a consensual agreement between driver (car owner), rider, and company. I think people should be able to make their own decisions, and unnecessary government regulations do nothing but make services worse and more expensive. If I own my own car and want to use it to drive people who are willing to pay me, I should be able to do so. Taxis suck because of the regulations. That's why people don't use them. Maybe they should be fighting to get these regulations removed, rather than trying to block a company that has found a way around them, and that is saving lives and boosting the economy. That's why DUIs plummeted in Austin when Uber arrived, and skyrocketed again when they were forced out. GOOD JOB GOVERNMENT! There I go letting myself get pulled out of my happy place again. Sorry.
 
Anyone who feels the minnie vans are a good deal, then yay for you. My point wasn't that no one would use them, it was that I don't think enough people will use them to keep it in business.

$20 may not sound like a whole lot for a single trip, but then you have to remember there is the trip back as well. So assuming you only go one place all day, your at $40 a day.

That's car rental prices at that point. I got an 8 seater Toyota Sienna from Enterprise for $420 for 10 days when we were there in June. On the downside, we had to park and then still take trams or walk to the gate, on the upside, we could go to disney springs, or universal, or the grocery store, or anywhere else we wanted without having to drop another $10-$20 each way. Taking into account the fact that we traveled more than one place each day, we did better than break even.

When the entire group didn't want to go to the same place, there was Uber. For 2-3 of us to jet from the resort to a certain park was always less than $10.

You have the following types of people:
A: Is a patient saint and thinks the buses are just fine
B: Isn't totally happy with the buses, but balks at $20 per direction to take a van.
C: Is fine with paying around $40 a day for transportation, but decides to just rent a car at that point.
D: Is willing to pay for extra transportation, but already does so, and is therefor already an Uber user.
E: Is willing to pay $20 each way to use a Minnie Van (whether that's because name brand trust or car seats or whatever) and is not inclined to use Uber, a rental car, the free buses, or any of the other available forms of transportation.

Do people in category E exist? Sure they do. Are there enough of them to support the entire fleet of Minnie Vans? I honestly don't think so. This is Disney setting out to solve a problem that private contractors have already solved.

The inherent benefit that Uber will always have over something like the Minnie Vans is that Uber drivers can just bugger off and do something else when no one is requesting rides. Or they can flood into WDW and queue up all around Disney Springs, Resorts, and various parks when ride requests are surging. Disney doesn't have this benefit. They are paying people to drive a fleet of vans that they have to maintain on property (versus individual drivers maintaining their own vehicles) and they have to pay a set number of employees to run those routes. This will lead to a lot of times were driver's are just sitting there with nothing to do and other times when the next Minnie Van won't be available for 15-20 minutes. Probably longer just after fireworks and the park gates turn into a mass exodus. What good are Minnie Vans if they can't be there to pick you up when you need them?

At the end of the day, there are several other ways Disney could improve transportation at WDW without trying to reinvent a wheel that is already established and doing fine. Take that investment and put it into the monorail that is very literally falling apart. Or the Bus system which failed us so many times the first time we went that we didn't touch once on our entire 10 day trip this time. Or the fact that they have created a huge bottleneck at MK by forcing everyone to load up on Buses, Monorails, and Ferry's.

True Story, leaving Mk one evening the lines were so long that we ran an experiment. We split the group into 3 pairs. I walked to the Contemporary and called an Uber to take me to the transportation center. I arrived 25 minutes before the group who took the monorail and 35 minutes before the group who took the ferry. It shouldn't take over an hour just to get to your car after a 12 hour day at the parks. Minnie Vans don't solve that.
 
Anyone who feels the minnie vans are a good deal, then yay for you. My point wasn't that no one would use them, it was that I don't think enough people will use them to keep it in business.

$20 may not sound like a whole lot for a single trip, but then you have to remember there is the trip back as well. So assuming you only go one place all day, your at $40 a day.

That's car rental prices at that point. I got an 8 seater Toyota Sienna from Enterprise for $420 for 10 days when we were there in June. On the downside, we had to park and then still take trams or walk to the gate, on the upside, we could go to disney springs, or universal, or the grocery store, or anywhere else we wanted without having to drop another $10-$20 each way. Taking into account the fact that we traveled more than one place each day, we did better than break even.

When the entire group didn't want to go to the same place, there was Uber. For 2-3 of us to jet from the resort to a certain park was always less than $10.

You have the following types of people:
A: Is a patient saint and thinks the buses are just fine
B: Isn't totally happy with the buses, but balks at $20 per direction to take a van.
C: Is fine with paying around $40 a day for transportation, but decides to just rent a car at that point.
D: Is willing to pay for extra transportation, but already does so, and is therefor already an Uber user.
E: Is willing to pay $20 each way to use a Minnie Van (whether that's because name brand trust or car seats or whatever) and is not inclined to use Uber, a rental car, the free buses, or any of the other available forms of transportation.

Do people in category E exist? Sure they do. Are there enough of them to support the entire fleet of Minnie Vans? I honestly don't think so. This is Disney setting out to solve a problem that private contractors have already solved.

The inherent benefit that Uber will always have over something like the Minnie Vans is that Uber drivers can just bugger off and do something else when no one is requesting rides. Or they can flood into WDW and queue up all around Disney Springs, Resorts, and various parks when ride requests are surging. Disney doesn't have this benefit. They are paying people to drive a fleet of vans that they have to maintain on property (versus individual drivers maintaining their own vehicles) and they have to pay a set number of employees to run those routes. This will lead to a lot of times were driver's are just sitting there with nothing to do and other times when the next Minnie Van won't be available for 15-20 minutes.

At the end of the day, there are several other ways Disney could improve transportation at WDW without trying to reinvent a wheel that is already established and doing fine. Take that investment and put it into the monorail that is very literally falling apart. Or the Bus system which failed us so many times the first time we went that we didn't touch once on our entire 10 day trip this time. Or the fact that they have created a huge bottleneck at MK by forcing everyone to load up on Buses, Monorails, and Ferry's.

True Story, leaving Mk one evening the lines were so long that we ran an experiment. We split the group into 3 pairs. I walked to the Contemporary and called an Uber to take me to the transportation center. I arrived 25 minutes before the group who took the monorail and 35 minutes before the group who took the ferry. It shouldn't take over an hour just to get to your car after a 12 hour day at the parks. Minnie Vans don't solve that.
I think you are underestimating this. People trust Disney way more than uber and would be willing to pay for the transportation. Look at the express bus service. People laughed at that at first. I think it's one of the best add ons there is.

Minnie vans can pick up and drop off right at the front of the parks. Uber has to drop off at a resort or at the TTC. Minnie vans pull right up to the MK bus stops.

I'm confused as to the bottleneck you refer to. If not by bus, boat, or monorail how else do you get to the TTC? Walking? You need some sort of transportation and Disney gives you multiple.
 
These Traverses are for up to 7. 8 including driver. Some have been looking at prices for UberXL on property and they are around $20 so Disney is in the ball park.
Is it confirmed that they got the 8-seat option on the Traverses?
 
Is it confirmed that they got the 8-seat option on the Traverses?
I believe so. It would fit 7 because the driver seat is taken but if they didn't get the 8 seater that seems kind of pointless to use these vehicles and not something else.
 












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