News Round Up 2017

[lockedoutlogic]

Well, some that haven't passed the smell test to me have actually happened in the last few years. Maybe my nose is broke? Dayam eye patch!

Examples?

 

[rteetz]

Today the annual Disney Social Media Moms media event kicks off. Nothing interesting ever comes out of it but thought it was worth mentioning.

 

[Tigger's ally]

Examples?

Tents in MK. New hub (thought that was a big hot mess, but now that it is done I like it). Extending F&W (thought it was too long to begin with). Just to name a few. Granted two are not really big things, but the hub was.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Tents in MK. New hub (thought that was a big hot mess, but now that it is done I like it). Extending F&W (thought it was too long to begin with). Just to name a few. Granted two are not really big things, but the hub was.

Filling in waterways to pack more people in doesn't fit the m.o. of cast member bob and his team of stock gluttons?

The tents went "pro-stupidity"...so I guess they qualify there...

And food and wine is a tiring profit machine...so expansion doesn't fit there?


I mean more "new cars ride proposed for studios"...and then they do it...in like a couple years - not 15. You just don't see that anymore...their model seems to be "decay, followed by overblown "redevelopment" talk"

 

[JJZMgailey]

Today the annual Disney Social Media Moms media event kicks off. Nothing interesting ever comes out of it but thought it was worth mentioning.

That is my most favorite conference EVER! It's Land & Sea this year - going to be amazing to see the pics and stories coming across social media.

 

[rteetz]

That is my most favorite conference EVER! It's Land & Sea this year - going to be amazing to see the pics and stories coming across social media.

Apparently they are getting a Pandora sneak peak.

https://twitter.com/classymommy/status/828992582982238208

 

[mikepizzo]

Apparently they are getting a Pandora sneak peak.

https://twitter.com/classymommy/status/828992582982238208

Think they just open that door behind them and let them stick their heads through?

 

[rteetz]

Think they just open that door behind them and let them stick their heads through?

Pretty much. I can't see them showing the moms too much.

 

[Tigger's ally]

Filling in waterways to pack more people in doesn't fit the m.o. of cast member bob and his team of stock gluttons?



And food and wine is a tiring profit machine...so expansion doesn't fit there?

To me, the Hub re design wasn't about fitting more people in, it was about better flow which actually allows for more people and still have better flow. It is a success in my book, even if I don't like the astro turf. The outer ring of the hub allows me to skirt in the direction I am stumbling too.

Reason why F&W doesn't fit is exactly what you said. It is tiring and now that Springs is open, I would think that Disney would want the locals that come out on weekends to F&W to instead visit Springs more often with all the new restaurants that have been added and continue to be added. I actually thought they might even scale back food and wine due to springs. That is of course assuming that they want Springs to succeed.

 

[jlundeen]

...Reason why F&W doesn't fit is exactly what you said. It is tiring and now that Springs is open, I would think that Disney would want the locals that come out on weekends to F&W to instead visit Springs more often with all the new restaurants that have been added and continue to be added. I actually thought they might even scale back food and wine due to springs. That is of course assuming that they want Springs to succeed.

I wish they would - I have no desire to visit Epcot during the Fool & Wino event ever again...

And I'm one who does enjoy wine and the drinks at some of the kiosks - just don't like the crowds, especially after dark when folks may have imbibed a bit too much....

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I love thinking about the attractions that "never were".

Speaking of the "Tragic Kingdom"...

I was watching Martin's New Fantasyland Tribute video the other day. There was a villains ride planned for New Fantasyland that started as a version of "it's a small world..." then Maleficent showed up, wrecked the track, and sent you to the underworld. The ride vehicle started as a boat, but then would connect to an above the head track, so it was a hybrid ride.

It sounded really interesting, and under different management who knows...

Who was the last executive that really cared about the guest experience, and had the Walt-esque mindset of always going bigger and better?

Edit: I was wrong. The hybrid ride was for another proposed ride. The villains would just be a flume ride.

I always thought a hybrid ride like you describe would have been cool for the Frozen Ever After attraction ... have it start as boats in the water just like Maestrom did, but then have the water be "frozen" and the boats rise out and turn to sleds

 

[TheMaxRebo]

This stuff never went beyond Blue Sky. There's dozens of rides out there that they come up with concepts for that never happened. This is just another example.

The only way I would use it to criticize Disney is to say the Imagineering certainly has the ability to come up with unique ideas, but management isn't willing to pay for them.

Cost is definitely a bit thing but practicality also has to come in to play and return on investment. It sounds like they are putting the money into Star Wars land knowing there will be a big return on it - but in other cases it doesn't always make sense to go nuts developing something so outrageous

 

[rteetz]

To me, the Hub re design wasn't about fitting more people in, it was about better flow which actually allows for more people and still have better flow. It is a success in my book, even if I don't like the astro turf. The outer ring of the hub allows me to skirt in the direction I am stumbling too.

Reason why F&W doesn't fit is exactly what you said. It is tiring and now that Springs is open, I would think that Disney would want the locals that come out on weekends to F&W to instead visit Springs more often with all the new restaurants that have been added and continue to be added. I actually thought they might even scale back food and wine due to springs. That is of course assuming that they want Springs to succeed.

Considering they have 4 festivals at Epcot that take up something like 200 days of 356 at Epcot they are going to keep milking it. The festivals are a huge driver for attendance at Epcot. I don't think they want to imagine what Epcot would be like without festivals. That would mean they'd actually have to build new attractions.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

That is my most favorite conference EVER! It's Land & Sea this year - going to be amazing to see the pics and stories coming across social media.

Always love how you bring such a positive energy to everything ... even after @rteetz totally downplayed this news event

 

[rteetz]

Always love how you bring such a positive energy to everything ... even after @rteetz totally downplayed this news event

It's a big event. They just never announce or show anything we haven't already seen at them.

 

[Tigger's ally]

I wish they would - I have no desire to visit Epcot during the Fool & Wino event ever again...

And I'm one who does enjoy wine and the drinks at some of the kiosks - just don't like the crowds, especially after dark when folks may have imbibed a bit too much....

We only go during the week and mostly during the lunch hours. At night, once again during the week, we just drank and walked around. Wasn't uncomfortable at all.

 

[Travis B]

I love thinking about the attractions that "never were".

Speaking of the "Tragic Kingdom"...

I was watching Martin's New Fantasyland Tribute video the other day. There was a villains ride planned for New Fantasyland that started as a version of "it's a small world..." then Maleficent showed up, wrecked the track, and sent you to the underworld. The ride vehicle started as a boat, but then would connect to an above the head track, so it was a hybrid ride.

It sounded really interesting, and under different management who knows...

Who was the last executive that really cared about the guest experience, and had the Walt-esque mindset of always going bigger and better?

Edit: I was wrong. The hybrid ride was for another proposed ride. The villains would just be a flume ride.

I prefer saving any Villains attractions for my dream bizarro world, Villains-based, dark side Magic Kingdom. I want a Villains fifth gate

 

[Matoskah Poodle]

the Fool & Wino event

LOL Great Name for it!

 

[mikepizzo]

I prefer saving any Villains attractions for my dream bizarro world, Villains-based, dark side Magic Kingdom. I want a Villains fifth gate

a.k.a Tragic Kingdom?

 

[rteetz]

News

AP park entry lines are staying for a while yet

http://wdwnt.com/blog/2017/02/walt-...er-exclusive-park-entry-lines-program-length/