News Round Up 2017

[RAD]

The PR hit though would be enormous if a family died on the monorail after the report of a piece falling off, etc

And I know their minor rails are expensive and high maintenance cast - but how come other places seem to have some form of a monorail and don't have issues with upkeep. I mean, my local zoo has a monorail that goes out over where the animals are - it not as impressive as Disney's system but why can they maintain it so well and Disney can't? What makes Disney's sooooo much more expensive than other systems?

I wonder what the cost per passenger to transport a guest via bus vs. monorail is? The current fleet has been in service 28 years, how would that compare to buying and maintaining the same number of busses to carry the same number of passengers plus CM's?

Even if the CBA doesn't make since the monorails are a part of the Disney 'thing' you see a monorail and thing of Disney.

 

[AMusicLifeForMe]

I wonder what the cost per passenger to transport a guest via bus vs. monorail is? The current fleet has been in service 28 years, how would that compare to buying and maintaining the same number of busses to carry the same number of passengers plus CM's?

Even if the CBA doesn't make since the monorails are a part of the Disney 'thing' you see a monorail and thing of Disney.

I can't see them getting rid of their monorail system. The monorail system is what makes them be able to charge a premium to stay at the Poly, GF, and the Contemporary. DVC also advertised the Poly by saying, "You can own at the last DVC resort on the monorail loop."

 

[Capang]

The PR hit though would be enormous if a family died on the monorail after the report of a piece falling off, etc

And I know their minor rails are expensive and high maintenance cast - but how come other places seem to have some form of a monorail and don't have issues with upkeep. I mean, my local zoo has a monorail that goes out over where the animals are - it not as impressive as Disney's system but why can they maintain it so well and Disney can't? What makes Disney's sooooo much more expensive than other systems?

Your zoo monorail may not be quite the same or nearly as long. Disney uses Bombardier technology, just like the old Vegas monorail. The Vegas monorail cost over 600 million if I remember correctly. It only runs about 4 miles.
Sure, Disney would take a PR hit if something tragic happens on the monorail. They've taken hits before but after a while those hits fade from memory of most Disney visitors. I'm not saying it's right, but I can see a giant corporation paying out a family to be quiet and go away after an accident as opposed to spending tens or hundreds of millions to fix something that may or may not hurt someone. I love the monorail and it is iconic. I still see Disney tearing it down at some point, though. Otherwise I think we would see more than the band-aid fixes it is currently getting.

 

[Irish_Mike]

News

Logo and new pavilions for 2017 F&W unveiled

 

[Goofy2015]

I am starting to think that Remy from Ratatouille is starting to slowly replace figment as that iconic figure of Epcot.

 

[DISnewjersey]

Is Disney were to tear it down, they should just do a light rail system. It looks similar to monorail cars but I'm pretty sure it's significantly cheaper. That seems to be the go-to method that cities are implementing.

 

[MommaBerd]

News

Logo and new pavilions for 2017 F&W unveiled

LOVE this design!!!

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I am starting to think that Remy from Ratatouille is starting to slowly replace figment as that iconic figure of Epcot.

Well, Figment was the main character for the Festival of the Arts, right? Maybe they have a character per Festival and makes sense for imagination to go with art and cooking character to go with food and wine, etc

 

[rteetz]

Well, Figment was the main character for the Festival of the Arts, right? Maybe they have a character per Festival and makes sense for imagination to go with art and cooking character to go with food and wine, etc

Figment was also the character for Flower and Garden.

 

[rteetz]

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[rteetz]

News

Summertime Update for Eats at Disney Springs at Walt Disney World Resort

 

[umichigan10]

Your zoo monorail may not be quite the same or nearly as long. Disney uses Bombardier technology, just like the old Vegas monorail. The Vegas monorail cost over 600 million if I remember correctly. It only runs about 4 miles.
Sure, Disney would take a PR hit if something tragic happens on the monorail. They've taken hits before but after a while those hits fade from memory of most Disney visitors. I'm not saying it's right, but I can see a giant corporation paying out a family to be quiet and go away after an accident as opposed to spending tens or hundreds of millions to fix something that may or may not hurt someone. I love the monorail and it is iconic. I still see Disney tearing it down at some point, though. Otherwise I think we would see more than the band-aid fixes it is currently getting.

That vegas number is deceiving because they had to deal with right of way issues that Disney wouldn't. But what they do have in common is I believe Disney uses a custom design. So it probably costs more to make the cars/beams because they aren't commonly used in other systems

 

[Goofy2015]

This is all true. I am just scared for the future of Figment. Very likely, Inside Out will be taking over the Imagination pavilion. Sure, figment will probably have a presence there somehow. Especially, with his Easter egg in Inside Out. Remy is way more of a fit for the logo of the Food and Wine Festival then Figment. I just hope that Figment stays somewhat relevant in the future. He is still one of my favorite characters created from the parks.

 

[jade1]

Remy is way more of a fit for the logo of the Food and Wine Festival then Figment.

Love that idea-second to Elsa taking over lighting the castle at XMAS.

 

[Fantasia79]

@rteetz looks to be right once again. Disney hanging its hat on IP more than anything.

Countdown until Coco themed Cinco de Mayo tickets go on sale?

Incase that sounds a bit too much like @lockedoutlogic, I'd totally go to that event I just made up.

 

[Delano Fiedler]

I'm actually hyped for the "BEER" booth Food and wine festival is probably the only excuse for me to go to EPCOT right now

 

[MissGina5]

This is all true. I am just scared for the future of Figment. Very likely, Inside Out will be taking over the Imagination pavilion. Sure, figment will probably have a presence there somehow. Especially, with his Easter egg in Inside Out. Remy is way more of a fit for the logo of the Food and Wine Festival then Figment. I just hope that Figment stays somewhat relevant in the future. He is still one of my favorite characters created from the parks.

IDK I like Figment but how can they NOT use Inside Out in that pavillion. As long as it's educational, I honestly sort of welcome this change.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

@rteetz looks to be right once again. Disney hanging its hat on IP more than anything.

Countdown until Coco themed Cinco de Mayo tickets go on sale?

Incase that sounds a bit too much like @lockedoutlogic, I'd totally go to that event I just made up.

I've been napping...what are we smack talking about currently?

 

[Dfan79]

I am starting to think that Remy from Ratatouille is starting to slowly replace figment as that iconic figure of Epcot.

I didn't think of that, maybe this is a tiny Remy sized hint that his ride is coming. Or I'm just looking too much into it, which is possible.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I can't see them getting rid of their monorail system. The monorail system is what makes them be able to charge a premium to stay at the Poly, GF, and the Contemporary. DVC also advertised the Poly by saying, "You can own at the last DVC resort on the monorail loop."

I can tell you that this is a commonly held misfire...

The reality is they have systematically charged more and more and it has almost nothing to do with what's being offered...it's all perception and using the brand.
Credit where credit is due...

The Poly (starting rate) was $40 in 1971...$119 in 1992...$189 in 1997...$289 in 2002...$350ish in 2006...
...and now the base rate is about $475

Is that because of the monorail? Heck no...it's really about perception.

Do you think there would be a revolt and people wouldn't pay if it wasn't there or was replaced with something cheaper?

Not for one second...they've been trained. As pointed out on this and other threads: people will, pay, rationalize and make excuses as needed...as long as you don't tread on their fantasy world.

My guess is while people would complain...they'd get over it quickly and few would cancel.