News Round Up 2016

[rteetz]

That's what I've gathered from this - she's being welcomed to the kingdom but as "their special guest from Avalor."

The past coronations have involved the rest of the princesses as well, not just Cinderella. They were also much more of a production than a DPB live stream event.

I find it interesting that Anna never got a royal welcome or anything. Isn't she a princess? Elsa is a queen obviously but they could've done something for Anna especially at the peak of popularity they were at.

 

[Reddog1134]

Well they could go with something along the lines of Tokyo's version. That has no twilight zone tie in but does have the thrill element and haunted hotel element.

I love the Twilight Zone but I don't think TOT needs it to be a great ride as long as the basics of the theme remain the same.

I wouldn't mind seeing a storyline more along the lines of Tokyo's version. I love that Disney has subtlety created a whole new story with SEA spread out over several attractions and restaurants.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I find it interesting that Anna never got a royal welcome or anything. Isn't she a princess? Elsa is a queen obviously but they could've done something for Anna especially at the peak of popularity they were at.

I guess the Anna/Elsa thing is a little weird in that you would do it just for Anna since Elsa is a queen but then you are arguably doing it for the less popular one/the one that isn't the focus of the movie (well, the focus is really on their relationship and familial love - but of the two Elsa is the focus of the story)

So I think rather than deal with it they haven't done the ceremony for either or made either an official Disney princess ... but still market the heck out of them as if they were actual Disney princesses

 

[Happitoo]

I find it interesting that Anna never got a royal welcome or anything. Isn't she a princess? Elsa is a queen obviously but they could've done something for Anna especially at the peak of popularity they were at.

I think this is entirely a business thing. "Disney Princesses" is a brand, and Frozen is an entirely separate brand under the Disney umbrella because of its popularity and they didn't want to dilute that by lumping either Anna or Elsa in with the other princesses.

That's why when you go to the Disney store they have Princess dolls, and Frozen dolls. Or Princess pyjamas with a bunch of princesses on them, or Frozen pyjamas. I think there's very few product lines that crossover between the two. Like you don't see pyjamas with Aurora, Repunzel and Elsa together. But you do see Aurora, Repunzel and Tiana.

It's entirely about keeping their cash cow separate and not being over-exposed (yes, I realize that's a funny comment in regards to Frozen) within existing product lines, or diluting their value to licencees (like toy manufacturers) by labelling them just another princess.

Yes, they probably should have had a coronation for them in the parks, but as far as I can tell it's a business thing to keep one brand (Frozen) at a higher level/priority than another (Disney Princesses)

 

[rteetz]

I think this is entirely a business thing. "Disney Princesses" is a brand, and Frozen is an entirely separate brand under the Disney umbrella because of its popularity and they didn't want to dilute that by lumping either Anna or Elsa in with the other princesses.

That's why when you go to the Disney store they have Princess dolls, and Frozen dolls. Or Princess pyjamas with a bunch of princesses on them, or Frozen pyjamas. I think there's very few product lines that crossover between the two. Like you don't see pyjamas with Aurora, Repunzel and Elsa together. But you do see Aurora, Repunzel and Tiana.

It's entirely about keeping their cash cow separate and not being over-exposed (yes, I realize that's a funny comment in regards to Frozen) within existing product lines, or diluting their value to licencees (like toy manufacturers) by labelling them just another princess.

Yes, they probably should have had a coronation for them in the parks, but as far as I can tell it's a business thing to keep one brand (Frozen) at a higher level/priority than another (Disney Princesses)

I kind of agree but also don't. I think with each princess they start out as their own thing because they are the new and most popular one at the time. I think in a few years maybe if Moana is successful that you'll see Anna and Elsa with the other princesses as well.

 

[SureAsLiz]

Yes, they probably should have had a coronation for them in the parks, but as far as I can tell it's a business thing to keep one brand (Frozen) at a higher level/priority than another (Disney Princesses)

As far as I can tell, the coronations are put on by consumer products rather than parks and resorts, so this is absolutely why Anna hasn't has a coronation yet.

I kind of agree but also don't. I think with each princess they start out as their own thing because they are the new and most popular one at the time. I think in a few years maybe if Moana is successful that you'll see Anna and Elsa with the other princesses as well.

The past few coronations have happened less than a year from the movie being released - if they haven't done one for Anna/Elsa yet I don't think they are going to do one
They did give them the whole Frozen Summer Celebration with the Frozen Royal Welcome, it just happened to carry over several years due to popularity

 

[luisov]

I agree with Happitoo. Disney makes more money by keeping the Princesses and the Frozen franchises separate. It wouldn't surprise me if the Frozen brand had its own department within consumer products. I doubt they have plans to unify both franchises anytime soon, especially with the sequel in the works.

As far as ToT, perhaps they could simply change the audio and the pre-show to get rid of every Twilight Zone reference, but still retain the story. I ignore how much of the story actually belongs to the TV show, though.

 

[umichigan10]

Rumor

Tower of Terror in DHS will lose the Twilight Zone tie in but will stay Tower of Terror.

I can live with that

 

[Josh Hendy]

[QUOTE="luisov, post: 56223693, member: 512540]
I ignore how much of the story actually belongs to the TV show, though.[/QUOTE]

None of the story belongs to the tv show AFAIK, which is why they had to digitally edit and overdub Rod Serling's introduction.

 

[skier_pete]

[QUOTE="luisov, post: 56223693, member: 512540]
I ignore how much of the story actually belongs to the TV show, though.

None of the story belongs to the tv show AFAIK, which is why they had to digitally edit and overdub Rod Serling's introduction.[/QUOTE]

Correct - the story is NOT from an episode. But the video of Serling is from an episode - specifically "It's a Good Life".

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I can live with that

I honestly can too. It would be cool for them to shift the Twilight Zone aspect but still keep the bones of it being a haunted hotel. I like it more than GotG. I've noticed that for the most part people aren't as upset about the rumor of GotG going in place of Ellen at Epcot; most are just annoyed that it would not be a net gain of an attraction which I do agree with. ToT represents to most an iconic ride of WDW itself and if they can maintain that haunted hotel aspect it would lessen the sting of the loss of the Twilight Zone theme instead of what I consider a slap in the face by an overlay of GotG.

 

[MommaBerd]

I just wish WDW execs would share the vision for DHS and Epcot. Instead, we're getting little dribs and drabs of information/rumors that don't make coherent sense. Why GotG in Epcot? Why Mickey in DHS? I NEED THE BIG PICTURE, PEOPLE!!!

 

[STLstone]

I just wish WDW execs would share the vision for DHS and Epcot. Instead, we're getting little dribs and drabs of information/rumors that don't make coherent sense. Why GotG in Epcot? Why Mickey in DHS? I NEED THE BIG PICTURE, PEOPLE!!!

Of course, this assumes there is a well-thought-out Big Picture....

 

[rteetz]

News

Just heard that some imagineers were shown the door at WDI. Names weren't given.

 

[Reddog1134]

News

Just heard that some imagineers were shown the door at WDI. Names weren't given.

Next stop: Universal Studios!!!

 

[SureAsLiz]

A couple updates that came up this morning:

Elena: The event on the 11th is listed as a media event, so it's probably a bigger event than the blog makes it sound. I'm still not sure it's an official coronation to make her a Disney Princess™ since she is still a Disney Jr show character.

The coronations haven't followed any pattern - Tiana was welcomed in MK then coronated in New York. Rapunzel was only coronated in London. Merida's coronation was in MK. Elena's event seems to be more-than-a-welcome-but-not-quite-a-coronation


Belle will have a special Meet and Greet opportunity in Heritage House 8/7-8/31. She will be meeting in her gold dress.
This opportunity is only available to individuals and their parties who have Memory Maker, Memory Maker one-day, or a valid Annual Pass with Memory Maker entitlements.


Festival of Fantasy FastPasses are being phased out, and October 1st will be the last day they are offered

 

[rteetz]

A couple updates that came up this morning:

Elena: The event on the 11th is listed as a media event, so it's probably a bigger event than the blog makes it sound. I'm still not sure it's an official coronation to make her a Disney Princess™ since she is still a Disney Jr show character.

The coronations haven't followed any pattern - Tiana was welcomed in MK then coronated in New York. Rapunzel was only coronated in London. Merida's coronation was in MK. Elena's event seems to be more-than-a-welcome-but-not-quite-a-coronation


Belle will have a special Meet and Greet opportunity in Heritage House 8/7-8/31. She will be meeting in her gold dress.
This opportunity is only available to individuals and their parties who have Memory Maker, Memory Maker one-day, or a valid Annual Pass with Memory Maker entitlements.


Festival of Fantasy FastPasses are being phased out, and October 1st will be the last day they are offered

The FoF phase out is no surprise.

 

[Tigger's ally]

Of course, this assumes there is a well-thought-out Big Picture....

I love how your message perfectly matches your avatar! TaDa!

 

[rteetz]

News

More info on the limited time meet and greet with belle in MK

http://www.wdwmagic.com/attractions...magic-kingdoms-heritage-house-starts-soon.htm

 

[Paula Sedley-Burke]

News

More info on the limited time meet and greet with belle in MK

http://www.wdwmagic.com/attractions...magic-kingdoms-heritage-house-starts-soon.htm

Cool thanks for the post.