News Round Up 2016

[lockedoutlogic]

For a 50% discount I would gladly switch my CSR reservation to GF!!

It would have to be 66% just to get you down to retail of Coronado...

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Prepare to be irritated.

Agree...all of them...

You know the reality? Animal kingdom lodge just became a much better hotel.

 

[beer dave]

This is an interesting rumor. It HAS been around for a few years as the next location after WLV 2.0, along with Yacht Club as the other rumored location.

It is unlikely to be a "moderate" DVC though. It would be very very risky for Disney to build a "budget" DVC resort because it would downgrade the value of the points. Disney would have a hard time charging the ridiculous price point they are charging at a moderate location. Likely it would be an independent resort similar to SSR or OKW - I can't imagine sharing facilities with CBR. They still would have to have it be a lower point per night property just because of that location.

The other interesting bit about this is that previous rumors were they would build it on the OTHER side of CBR, which essentially abuts to the back of Epcot, and build a special back entrance from the resort into Epcot - allowing them to continue charging premium prices. This is definitely a new version of the CBR rumor.

If they drop the point requirement per room to something in the area of OKW, the cost of ownership would drop even with the current point price because a lesser point purchase will get you your desired stay at your home resort CBR. think if the whole place was at the level of the AKV values? Think how far your points would go...

 

[beer dave]

Guess it depends how high the glass is. I guess I'm envissioning them going 7-8 feet above the railing. If it is just making the railing a tad higher then I would agree. But I think that with signs, I don't know, maybe I just have more hope than I should, but I stand by I wouldn't call this ridiculous or insinuate it is too reactive.

They could never go that high-- they are covering the railings so gators cannot get up on the decks. guaranteed. Not that they could anyway. security theatre.

The florida sun shining through 7 or 8 feet of plexiglass would turn those decks into convection ovens. They can't do it.

 

[crazy4wdw]

Spirited rumor

The Grand Floridian has seen a lot of cancellations since the attack.

WDW is evaluating everything that has an alligator or crocodile in it and whether or not they should get rid of them.

I noticed that there are now numerous fall discounts available for the GF since the alligator incident. You can now book a garden view room for $450/night instead of $609/night. Rooms will probably sell out fast at that price!!!

 

[beer dave]

Point "cost" will remain the same.
What will change is # of points per night. Expect them to be slightly lower than SSR and OKW.
Its all about the nightly points.

There are already thousands of DVC customers who paid $50-$60/pt who share DVC amenities with people who paid $150+/pt.

It further pushes the "home resort" which used to not matter and nightly point cost difference per resort which is growing rapidly. As the DVC family/size grows they are slowly enforcing a de facto home resort only mentality. Good luck EVER getting into Grand Floridian, Beach Club, or Grand Californian if you don't own there. Outside your home resort booking window, it'll be a crap shoot and you'll focus mostly on SSR, AK, or this new one. Everything else will mostly stay booked.

They will keep the price high, lower the buy-in, and sell the moderate as a "Week Long vacation" and setup a menu to further mask the cost. They'll sell it as a DVC, with all the access - but then when people buy in for $8,000 for a 5 night stay (*during Value season), they'll quickly realize the "Deluxe" are out of reach because the 45 points they bought are only worth 2-3 nights, and they can't get the availability anyways.

So...
Same per point cost
Lower initial buy-in threshold (already done by the way - last year)
Lower per night points (less than AK Standard, OKW, SSR)

Yup-- I was late to this party.

 

[MommaBerd]

Spirited rumor
WDW is evaluating everything that has an alligator or crocodile in it and whether or not they should get rid of them.

Im going to call this the "snowflake" effect...Disney doesn't want to deal with parents who might complain that their precious little snowflake may be "traumatized" by Tic Toc or Louis. I mean, can parents not just have a conversation with their kids? The fact is that many parents put WAY more emphasis on this than their kids. UGH I truly hope they don't overreact.

 

[beer dave]

THIS is the baloney that grinds my gears! Holy stupid overreaction Batman!

Right-- You are only in trouble if you have an uncontrollable pension to walk on beaches at night near the water....

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I noticed that there are now numerous fall discounts available for the GF since the alligator incident. You can now book a garden view room for $450/night instead of $609/night. Rooms will probably sell out fast at that price!!!

Are you crazy?

That's not a deal either!!!

Me thinks the GF is taking a bigger blow than originally thought...

New money types like to think they are buying "full service" at that place...where - honestly they don't have to watch their kids that closely - that glass house might have been shattered...
...we'll see.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Right-- You are only in trouble if you have an uncontrollable pension to walk on beaches at night near the water....

Stop being too obvious...it only gets me riled up

...we know that's how things get off the rails

 

[rteetz]

Are you crazy?

That's not a deal either!!!

Me thinks the GF is taking a bigger blow than originally thought...

New money types like to think they are buying "full service" at that place...where - honestly they don't have to watch their kids that closely - that glass house might have been shattered...
...we'll see.

That's a deal for what the GF usually is. Everyone and their brother knows the GF is overpriced.

 

[saskdw]

It would have to be 66% just to get you down to retail of Coronado...

Ok, round it up to 70% and we have a deal.

 

[davish562]

Where will people watch fireworks from at the POLY? Is the place where they pump in the music for fireworks be closed at night? How about the docks around the water?

 

[lockedoutlogic]

That's a deal for what the GF usually is. Everyone and their brother knows the GF is overpriced.

Based on the avaialability/occupancy trends over the last 5 years...everybody isn't in line with it as much as they once were.

$450 might be a deal...to some...but now that you've seen a family go home with fewer travelers? That might be enough to get through to the most ardent of pounders...

The reality is that people can/will be able to get over violence long term - like if there was a shooting on that beach - than something that can't be explained/controlled.

The mind needs a villian...and there isn't much of one here...consciously or subconsciously.

 

[rteetz]

Where will people watch fireworks from at the POLY? Is the place where they pump in the music for fireworks be closed at night? How about the docks around the water?

The docks are possible but there are grassy areas around the poly they can be viewed from. There is also that hill near the DVC rooms that they can be viewed from. They have installed several new speakers around the poly grounds recently.

 

[beer dave]

Stop being too obvious...it only gets me riled up

...we know that's how things get off the rails

Sorry I can't reply now-- there's a lightening storm outside and I have to go up on my roof to watch it.

 

[SureAsLiz]

Where will people watch fireworks from at the POLY? Is the place where they pump in the music for fireworks be closed at night? How about the docks around the water?

I just watched them there last night. You are allowed along the sidewalk, just not onto the actual sand.

 

[crazy4wdw]

Are you crazy?

No, just sarcastic!

 

[Joben]

Rumors I've seen say they will build a canal and have boat transportation from the DVC portion of the resort to Epcot.

I just don't see how they can put a canal in to connect that piece of land with Epcot. Well they can but wouldn't they have to go under at least Buena Vista

 

[jknc]

I just don't see how they can put a canal in to connect that piece of land with Epcot. Well they can but wouldn't they have to go under at least Buena Vista

The aerials show a lot less land to remove than I assumed.