Newbies bringing a service dog to visit Mickey

It may be the same family, maybe not.
Here is a link:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...bloch-3-alive-strapping-oxygen-tank-back.html

If it is the same family, I wish the OP would have explained a little more about the dog. From what she wrote, the dog sounded like they were just using it to hold the oxygen, not that it had been trained to keep a safe distance and DO some tasks related to the child's needs.

There are pictures in the article of the little girl and her dog at Disney - so I'm assuming it is not the same family (since the family in the article has clearly dealt with the service dog at Disney).

It does show, however, that the dog in the OP could be a true service dog.
 
There are pictures in the article of the little girl and her dog at Disney - so I'm assuming it is not the same family (since the family in the article has clearly dealt with the service dog at Disney).

It does show, however, that the dog in the OP could be a true service dog.
I agree with both.

The OP did not clarify though when asked about tasks, so may not have known the answers or not have understood the distinction between the dog being trained and a dog that was just being used to carry something without training.
 
Interesting article. I think, with the service dog vs not a service dog argument aside, we are still correct in saying that it's unwise (and in this situation possibly dangerous) to take a very young dog who has not been paired with its "user" for very long to Disney.
 
Interesting article. I think, with the service dog vs not a service dog argument aside, we are still correct in saying that it's unwise (and in this situation possibly dangerous) to take a very young dog who has not been paired with its "user" for very long to Disney.
I would agree.
The girl in the article is 3, but looks closer to 4 in the pictures.
The information from the OP was that the girl she was asking about was 2 - the age itself makes quite a difference. A newly paired team have a lot of work to get used to each other before going someplace so busy as WDW.
 

I have found this to be an interesting read. I am in the newbie-repeat stages of training. Both of my boys are Autistic, my oldest being the most severe (wonders off, melts, anxiety issues, etc). I say repeat because we have been in this path a while now. The first dog did not pass. Long story short he began to show agression and behaviors that could not be broken. We would have handed him to us in Dec. Were back in training now.

I have a few questions as this has stirred my own mind. We will be taking our dog to Disney so one of these trips, if not the first couple will be new. There is no where here like Disney to even help in that area. We already plan to take extra hands with us. We go off season, before the March madness and before the Christmas rush. We never go in the summer or such. Do they still need boots? Our agency has not recommended or mentioned these to us and I know the last dog was not trained.

Second, someone mentioned never leaving the dog in the Disney room. May I ask why, besides the obvious. There will be times the dog may be left in our house (pool etc) and I know as they rotate through the other dogs they are left with fosters who work. Housebroken indeed and trust worthy. Is this a Disney thing? I ask because sometimes we go to the pool, or rent the boats on the DVC resorts. I would think the dog could not do these and would be better off in the room.

Has anyone ever had issues with the petting even when they are wearing a patch. I can see the child reaching etc... but a problem?

I spoke with Disney just last week about the moving sidewalks. Boots are not required and hair must be trimmed on the dogs. Which I knew this. Most of the CMs said sidewalks can be stopped like they would for a wheelchair issue or slowed to a crawl. We have seen many dogs at Disney on our trips over the years and never saw boots and saw them on rides with moving sidewalk entrances. Curious to anyones experience here.

I actually can not wait to finally be done with training. We travel every month out of state for this and the bond and impact on my son(s) are amazing.

Service Dogs are amazing, how they help people are a blessing. Education is key and I am thankful for threads like this. :)
 
I have found this to be an interesting read. I am in the newbie-repeat stages of training. Both of my boys are Autistic, my oldest being the most severe (wonders off, melts, anxiety issues, etc). I say repeat because we have been in this path a while now. The first dog did not pass. Long story short he began to show agression and behaviors that could not be broken. We would have handed him to us in Dec. Were back in training now.

I have a few questions as this has stirred my own mind. We will be taking our dog to Disney so one of these trips, if not the first couple will be new. There is no where here like Disney to even help in that area. We already plan to take extra hands with us. We go off season, before the March madness and before the Christmas rush. We never go in the summer or such. Do they still need boots? Our agency has not recommended or mentioned these to us and I know the last dog was not trained.

I think the more you can expose your dog to, the better off you'll be. Loud noises, big crowds, that sort of thing. I don't think even "normal" theme parks compare to Disney and our dogs never went to anything other than like, local festivals. That being said, noise stimulation was part of their training and there were certain things our dogs reacted to at Disney, but they were well trained enough to know it wasn't going to hurt them. I don't think shoes are necessary, but you may want to look into paw wax. Some dogs just won't walk with things on their feet unless they're trained to from an early age, but the wax will provide some protection. We always went in the off season and honestly never found the pavement to be a huge issue. We would sometimes pour some water over their paws or let them walk through puddles if it was warm out.

Second, someone mentioned never leaving the dog in the Disney room. May I ask why, besides the obvious. There will be times the dog may be left in our house (pool etc) and I know as they rotate through the other dogs they are left with fosters who work. Housebroken indeed and trust worthy. Is this a Disney thing? I ask because sometimes we go to the pool, or rent the boats on the DVC resorts. I would think the dog could not do these and would be better off in the room.

I believe the issue of leaving a dog in a hotel room is partly a safety issue. The dog would be left alone in unfamiliar settings and if someone from housekeeping were to enter the room without the owner there, the dog could react in a negative way (aggressive, territorial, scared). If someone entered the room, the dog could bolt. The other issue is if the dog were to be destructive. It may not be at home, but again, you're putting the dog in a totally foreign environment and if you aren't there, you have no way to know what the dog will do. All hotels will charge you for damage to a room caused by a dog and it being a service animal does not exempt you from it. We always took our dogs with us to the pool and someone just sat out. Sometimes you just have to deal with the fact that you can't do everything like everyone else.

Has anyone ever had issues with the petting even when they are wearing a patch. I can see the child reaching etc... but a problem?

As service dogs got more prevelent, I feel like petting problems trickled off, but they certainly exist. When I was young, I heard "of course, little Johnny, you can go pet the dog!" or "Leave it alone, it'll bite you!". Rarely did anyone tell their kid "That's a guide dog, it's working" or anthing like that. As the years went on, I heard that more than anything else. From the other side of the coin, it can be very hard to explain to a 3 year old they can't touch the pretty puppy. You do have to have some tolerance especially while in line that someone will brush against your dog, or a little kid may give it a pat, but I would always ask someone to stop if it were any more than that. I've gone as far as being very mean about it when people wouldn't listen to "Please stop petting the dog, he's working" then "Please stop" then "Stop now" then "If you put your hand on that dog again, we're gonna have problems" The only exception we ever made on this was if it was someone who was mentally handicapped, particularly if it were a child. That happend very rarely though, and almost never at Disney. Usually the parent or guardian would thank us and distract their charge with someone else so everyone could move along, but it was always mutally appreciated that we understood they just didn't know any better (but they'd get so much pleasure from it) and that the other person wouldn't take up too much of our time. I find that any dog I see that has a sign or patch that says "I'm working, please don't touch me", usually someone is reading the sign while they pet the dog.

I spoke with Disney just last week about the moving sidewalks. Boots are not required and hair must be trimmed on the dogs. Which I knew this. Most of the CMs said sidewalks can be stopped like they would for a wheelchair issue or slowed to a crawl. We have seen many dogs at Disney on our trips over the years and never saw boots and saw them on rides with moving sidewalk entrances. Curious to anyones experience here.

Again I think this is an exposure thing. I would take your dog on as many of these as you can before you go to Disney so that they know what the deal is. We had labs, so fur length was never an issue, and our second dog would kind of, well...hop...over the end of the moving side walk. The CMs seemed to slow down the moving platforms without us asking, but if they don't you can certainly ask.

I actually can not wait to finally be done with training. We travel every month out of state for this and the bond and impact on my son(s) are amazing.

Service Dogs are amazing, how they help people are a blessing. Education is key and I am thankful for threads like this. :)
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In reference to all the questions, I would agree with lock in all but one and that is the moving sidewalks, it would not be something I would even practice, same with escalators. Every school I know for the blind make you sign a contract that you will not take the dogs on escalators or moving sidewalks unless you take that class, since I do not have them where I am, I elect not to spend 4 hours learning how to do it being that in airports there are obtains so I would never use them. At all three schools that I worked with, they make you put boots on if you are going to use the side walks. All three school, will tell you they have at least one dog that has been seriously injured, and that is with the trainer doing the escalator or moving sidewalk. To me maybe it is because I am blind, but I would not want to be the one who had a dog lose a paw, and not be a service dog, and to me I don't have to pay 20,000 or more for the dog, because in my case being blind the school many train for free. I know most autism service dogs cost at least 5000, to me it is not worth the few minutes for an alternative route and not even place my dog in danger. They will stop the moving side walks, they do have elevators almost everywhere there are escalators, it just means walking a few more feet. Personally, I would ask who is training your dog, if they have not trained the dog to escalators or moving side walks, then I would find an alternative way, if they have, then tell them to train you with them, so you know who to do them.

The dog in the room is also disneys not wanting responsibility, I am sure, just like you can not leave a baby in the room sleeping, you can not leave a dog. What happens if the maid is scared to death of dogs, when she walks in to a pet free hotel room she is going to freak out. Also, since my dog may be left home alone, it is in his environment, what if he starts barking at the kids banging on the walls next store. So many things, Disney is giving you special permission because the dog is a service dog and does not follow the pet rule, as they do not allow pets in the hotels ( at least in Disneyland, I assume WDW also), but Disney assumes that if you need a service dog then they will be with you doing service, if they are not with you doing service then they are a pet, and the rule is no pets in the hotel, they do have kennels if you need them. I take my dog to the pools, I usually hose them down with water from the showers near the pool and they stay happy sitting for a while.

If going at off season I would use wax, boots, all dogs hate them at first and walk funny but all of mine have gotten use to them fast when they need them on, which is not a lot but they do use them when they need them.
 
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It may be the same family, maybe not.
Here is a link:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...bloch-3-alive-strapping-oxygen-tank-back.html

If it is the same family, I wish the OP would have explained a little more about the dog. From what she wrote, the dog sounded like they were just using it to hold the oxygen, not that it had been trained to keep a safe distance and DO some tasks related to the child's needs.

How cool! I was just imagining what might work when I posted, so it's kind of cool to see that I was spot on. That dog must make a huge difference for that little one.
 
TY for the replies. I love threads like this because it gives me an out of the box, been there feel.

The dogs through the agency are not free for Autism, your right there! I do know they are trained on moving stairs and elevators. One of my boys will only do an elevator, terrified silly of the stairs. Works for me, seems easier anyway when in dog tow. This we do when were on training missions at the mall. They will not have anyway to test a moving sidewalk here though. I am hoping since the CMs seemed easy with the slow it down/stop it then it will be fine. All except the People Mover, that one I was told could not be.

I did not know you could take them to the pool at Disney. I assumed, bad me, you could not. In our area we can not take them. Especially inside our subdivision. They do not want them anywhere near the pool. I will not let him in but for us to go to swim lessons and such here, he can not go I am told.

We always go off season but not objective to boots or wax if needed. We are headed back out of state Wed for a few days for training. I will mention it. Thanks for the tip. I will see if they will train the boots for me lol. Good company were going through and seem willing.

I see the room POV. Just struck me questionable based on needs and places the dog can and can not go and how this specific dog is trained. I know with the DVC room cleaning is not daily and the front desk said to just put a note on the door on the days they are cleaning. They did not say yeah or nah to leaving him in the room though.

I am thankful I am banking points because the first week we go to Disney with the SD I am taking extra hands. :laughing:

Thanks for the insight.

E~
 
Just to let you know and you do have to pick your battles, as service dog is allowed in pool areas so your subdivision is wrong, law states anywhere the general public is allowed to go. But saying that is also, a part of you that has to decide, my first dog, would have bolted to the water and jumped in so I never took him to the pool, after all he was a lab chessie mixed, even well trained it would have been torture to take him to the pool, why stress him out. My second dog a lab, has gone to the pool, but I do stop by outdoor showers and hose her first and give her some water play first, then she sits on tie down by the side of pool, but I don't stay more than half an hour. If there is no outdoor shower I have used indoor but I will admit if caught you may get in trouble. Tie down is something you can use in your room also if you still are going to do that, but as I caution, if you leave your dog unattended, he is just a pet and could be asked to leave, but I have left the dog on tie down while I go for soda, or help carry a bag up to the room. Oh don't forget a colapsable bowl for water at the park, and if it does have a snap don't trust it on his harness, I have lost a few this way, put it in a backpack or something. If you don't want to carry food bowls, just tell the maid to bring you the liners for ice buckets, they were very nice with me in DL they would even put new ones down each day so the dog would have clean bowls, what magic even for the dogs.
 
I should clarify that it's been awhile since I've been around a "freshly trained" for lack of a better term, service dog. It could very well be that the school we used to go through has changed its training with regards to moving sidewalks/escalators.

And yes, collapsable bowls are pretty much a necessity. The only trouble I found with them was that both our dogs were used to eating with their normal bowls against a wall so they could kind of nose the bowl and get every little piece. With the collapsable bowls that was hard for them to do so I'd usually stand with my feet turned out and put the bowl there for some stability :lmao:. I usually had to take the last few chunks of food out and let the dogs eat out of my hand to finish up though. We'd usually take breaks near a restroom in a CS restaurant or by a bench outside and I'd just go into the bathroom to wash the bowls out after the dog was done. You can get cold water for them from the CS locations too, just don't let your dog drink it too quickly because the cold can kind of overwhelm their system. We've had TS restaurants offer to get the dog water too, but never have taken them up on it and they are not obligated to provide anything for the dog. You can also let your dog have an ice cube or two just to kind of wet their whistle but again, not a lot because of the cold.

Another thing to think about is keeping some treats or even just some food pellets with you in your pocket. It's a great way to give positive reinforcement to a trainee or fully trained dog especially in such a crazy environment. We could get tiny milkbone like treats at Pet Supplies Plus out of a bulk container (like candy at the grocery store) and we'd usually break them in half, or we'd use just a food pellet. Pretty much any dog will be more attracted to the food than whatever might be scaring or distracting them.
 
Lock that is why I use the colapsible bowl in the park for water, and ask for the ice bucket liners for in the room. Our maid must have loved dogs because each day she would give fresh bowls, a fresh bath mat under them, a fresh drool rag, and two little bones, like I said magic, actually this happened twice out of our stays with SD, at Disneyland hotel, but neither of the times at WDW and not when we stayed PPH at DL.but at all five we did get the ice buckets to use, which are better for food than the colapsible bowls, which I find only good in the park when you need something and the dog is thirsty.

All the schools will teach on escalators, most will not on moving side walks. Sorry if that did not come across, and as I say maybe blind individuals who can not see the moving parts have more trouble, but I still say why put a dog in danger if there is an alternative. And there is everywhere in Disney I think and in airports, and malls. I don't remember the people mover not stopping at WDW, I do remember the one in DL would stop, long time ago, we had it stop when CP child would get on. But they could be different, and if they can not stop, that may be one ride that dad and kids go while mom holds dog, and them mom and kids go while dad holds dog.
 
I'm not sure which dog you are referring to, but the OP's dog would not be considered a SD as there are no trained tasks involved. Merely hauling a tank that is strapped to the dog is nothing that is trained- it's placed on the dog, the dog walks with it, that's it. Many of us are concerned about the dog having issues in the Florida heat with something heavy to carry on top of it and wondering why they can't strap the tank to a stroller since it belongs to a 2 year old.

And to the PP/owner of Daisy- SO CUTE! Skye has that same Disney princess collar (at least it looks to be the same) and I have several more in her drawer where I keep all her scarves in case the original one wears out.

OH thank you! She's been a joy to have with us in our home! She works really well and does her job wonderfully!!

Glad there's a thread like this in regards to SDs!! Love giving my input the best tht I can.

Meredith and FLD Daisy :tinker:
 

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