New Virgin buisness only flights

Obi Wan Kenobi

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Great news!

SRB has announced that virgin atlantic are going to start from key European cities buisness class only flights across the pond in the next 18 months, with UK Buisness only flights to follow after.

This will be in addition to the standard flights now operating.

Fantastic news! :banana: :banana: :banana:
 
Oh now that sounds interesting :)

Claire ;)
 
Just read this article and it reads to me as if the flights are from London to Europe no mention of the US :confused3

Claire ;)
 

well this has proven that VB is a hypocrite, how can he pledge to cut CO2 then introduce short haul flights to places which are excessible by train. I would much rather see him introduce a train service to europe.

"It is clear that short-haul aviation is the fastest growing CO2 source in context of UK transportation and there are real alternatives, such as the train." . (Richard Branson http://www.foe.co.uk/living/poundsavers/richard_branson_transcript.html) okay what ever you say!
 
well this has proven that VB is a hypocrite, how can he pledge to cut CO2 then introduce short haul flights to places which are excessible by train. I would much rather see him introduce a train service to europe.

"It is clear that short-haul aviation is the fastest growing CO2 source in context of UK transportation and there are real alternatives, such as the train." . (Richard Branson http://www.foe.co.uk/living/poundsavers/richard_branson_transcript.html) okay what ever you say!

This CO2 nonsense is purely that, total nonsense dreamed up by the same group of idiots who came up with "We are heading for an ice age" in the eighties.

Its npw been jumped on by governments who see it as another way of inbcreasing taxes on us under the umberella of "saving the planet"

I want to fly to a European destination, not spend hours on a train stopping every half an hour, sitting in cramped seats and smelly carriages.

The planes to do these new routes across the atlantic and into europe will be lower emission jets anyway.
 
This CO2 nonsense is purely that, total nonsense dreamed up by the same group of idiots who came up with "We are heading for an ice age" in the eighties.

Its npw been jumped on by governments who see it as another way of inbcreasing taxes on us under the umberella of "saving the planet"
I'm sure you believe this just as equally as those who believe that the evidence is very clear on climate change. Even ignoring this fact, it is clear that governments have agreed targets which will involve some form of carbon trading which will mean that nations and industries will have to make good the financial consequenes of their CO2 emissions :thumbsup2
 
I'm sure you believe this just as equally as those who believe that the evidence is very clear on climate change. Even ignoring this fact, it is clear that governments have agreed targets which will involve some form of carbon trading which will mean that nations and industries will have to make good the financial consequenes of their CO2 emissions :thumbsup2

Ignoring this fact??? What "fact"? That there is climate change? There has always been climate change, and in the past, greater more sigtnificant change than in the past 50 years.

Carbon trading is a joke before it comes into use. Already the major polluting nations China and India have found ways around it.

Edit
Should have also said, we are going off topic a little, perhaps the "great global warming scandal" should be discussed more in Communities forum??
 
Does sound interesting. I am with you Obi on climate change, Time will tell.:thumbsup2
 
This CO2 nonsense is purely that, total nonsense dreamed up by the same group of idiots who came up with "We are heading for an ice age" in the eighties.
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well maybe RB should make up his mind if he thinks it is nonsense or not as he is saying one thing while doing another.
 
well maybe RB should make up his mind if he thinks it is nonsense or not as he is saying one thing while doing another.

Why pick on SRB Wideeyes?

No one else flies to Europe at the moment I suppose?

What about BA? EasyJet? Ryanair? etc etc..

Did he or did I say that Global warming is nonsense?

Anyone would think that he was a buisnessman trying to make a profit....:rolleyes1

From the easyjet web site:

"The Stern Review, aviation and the environment

According to the Stern Review on the Economics of Climate Change, aviation CO2 emissions account for 1.6% of all global greenhouse gas emissions and forecast to contribute to 2.5% in 2050. easyJet supports the findings of the Stern review, and highlights that the contribution of the aviation industry towards global warming is significantly less than other larger polluters, even with the forecast increase in emissions by 2050. We believe that simply stopping flying would have little benefit on climate change"

From the Ryanair web site:

Ryanair proves that air transport can be environmentally friendly whilst continuing to deliver huge economic benefits in terms of the lowest cost air travel for consumers, increased tourism, regional and social cohesion, job creation, inward investment, etc. As the table below illustrates, air transport, which accounts for less than 2% of total EU CO2 emissions, is not the real problem in terms of environmental impacts. Road transport accounts for 9 times more and small consumer fuel combustion for 6 times more CO2 emissions than aviation within EU airspace.



It is unclear as to why the European Commission is pushing to include air transport in the European Union Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) instead of focussing on the real and larger sources of greenhouse gases.

For example, improving the efficiency of small consumer fuel combustion (e.g. household heating) in the EU15 by just 15% would cancel out the entire impact of air transport on the environment within the EU airspace! This is just one of several easily available measures to reduce EU greenhouse gas emissions, on which the Commission should be focusing instead of targeting aviation (where huge efforts to increase energy efficiency due to economic pressures are being made).

Also, air transport accounts for less than 2% of EU CO2 emissions and delivers huge economic benefits, whereas road transport is responsible for some 20% of emissions and provides a fraction of the economic benefits. The table below presents the net benefits of selected sectors in the UK :

And by no means least, from the man you want to attack
From the VA web site:

"Our partnership with Boeing - we have partnered with Boeing to help us in our quest to become the most sustainable airline in the world. We ordered 15 787-9 Dreamliners in April, which burn around 27% less fuel per passenger than the A340-300 they will replace. We will also be doing a biofuel demonstration with Boeing, Virgin Fuels and engine maker GE Aviation during 2008 which will be the first worldwide by a commercial airline. "

and

"All of the electricity we purchase to run our key office sites is from renewable sources and we are looking into extending this across all of our ground operations. Virgin Atlantic has a well-established recycling scheme at all of our office locations and ensures that waste from our engineering facilities is disposed of in the appropriate manner. The emphasis on sustainability and efficiency is not limited to our aircraft operations, however. In conjunction with Envirowise (which gives Government-funded advice to businesses) we are undertaking a wide-ranging review of our ground operations and identifying opportunities to reduce our environmental impact. During 2007 we will be identifying robust targets for improving energy efficiency, reducing waste and consumption of resources such as paper and water, and engaging staff and customers in embedding sustainability at the core of our business.



We are also developing a comprehensive sustainable procurement policy which will be rolled out to key suppliers in 2007."

And

"SIR RICHARD BRANSON TO INVEST $3BN (£1.6BN) TO FIGHT GLOBAL WARMING

The Virgin boss said he would commit all profits from his travel firms, such as airline Virgin Atlantic and Virgin Trains, over the next 10 years.

"We must rapidly wean ourselves off our dependence on coal and fossil fuels," Sir Richard said.


The funds will be invested in schemes to develop new renewable energy technologies, through an investment unit called Virgin Fuels.

One of the UK's best known entrepreneurs, Sir Richard made the announcement in New York on the second day of the Clinton Global Initiative, an annual conference hosted by former US President Bill Clinton.

Sir Richard, 56, said that transport and energy companies "must be at the forefront of developing environmentally friendly business strategies".

Planes and trains

Sir Richard recently launched a new Virgin Fuels business, which will invest up to $400m in green energy projects.

It has already announced its backing for a California firm, Cilion which plans to make bio ethanol from corn.

Friends of the Earth broadly welcomed Sir Richard's announcement, but the environmental pressure group warned that the continued fast growth in air travel could not be maintained "without causing climatic disaster".


Worth an estimated £3bn, Sir Richard started his career in the record industry before moving into everything from mobile phones to credit cards. He established his main airline Virgin Atlantic in 1984, starting services between London and New York.

He also owns two low-cost airlines, Virgin Express in Europe and Virgin Blue in Australia.

His Virgin Group owns a 51% stake in UK train company Virgin Trains. This firm operates the UK's West Coast Main Line franchise between London and the west of Scotland, and the cross country franchise between the south west of England and Scotland."
 
Have to say I am from the camp that thinks that if they stopped deforestation then the problem would be solved. Too many rainforests are disappearing.
 
Have to say I am from the camp that thinks that if they stopped deforestation then the problem would be solved. Too many rainforests are disappearing.

Yep I agree.
However we all must take blame also for the way in which Florida is also changing.
When we first started to go to Florida, the 27 was running between vast Orange groves, but now is just rows and rows of houses.
Aligators are finding ther way into peoples pools as we have pinched thier wetlands, As for the Manatee..........:eek:
 












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