New to DVC - Purchase VGC versus DLT or both

[_auroraborealis_]

And blue card benefits at DLR are traditionally laughable.

 

[MagicalMommaOf2]

And blue card benefits at DLR are traditionally laughable.

Okay so I'm not crazy for missing out? I know people said they got bad treatment at Aulani for being white card members, this is all pretty foreign to me so I am not sure what "bad treatment" consists of. Hard to justify treating people badly for buying something resale they couldn't even buy direct lol

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Okay so I'm not crazy for missing out? I know people said they got bad treatment at Aulani for being white card members, this is all pretty foreign to me so I am not sure what "bad treatment" consists of. Hard to justify treating people badly for buying something resale they couldn't even buy direct lol

I doubt the treatment was about card color. Aulani is known to be inconsistent with all DVC members.

 

[limace]

I love DLH but would probably look for DLT points resale-I think many folks buying there will plan to only use those points there, so if I can get some $130 resale points I’d be happy. Already have a VGC contract-and if I want to go to WDW I can get much cheaper points to do that than DLT direct.

 

[MagicalMommaOf2]

I doubt the treatment was about card color. Aulani is known to be inconsistent with all DVC members.

interesting! I know when i first contacted DVC directly they really pushed AUL. Its really tricky because sometimes the DVC reps for Disney aren't always honest. One tried to assure me if i bought AUL or RIV that I could easily book VGC. We both know that isn't true lol

 

[MagicalMommaOf2]

I love DLH but would probably look for DLT points resale-I think many folks buying there will plan to only use those points there, so if I can get some $130 resale points I’d be happy. Already have a VGC contract-and if I want to go to WDW I can get much cheaper points to do that than DLT direct.

my husband and i were JUST talking about DLT resale, again we only would use DVC at DL resort so its really tempting to do resale since it wont matter to us that we got locked into that resort but I am afraid the resale market will be so similar to VGC. Who knows, always at the mercy of the mouse.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

There is also a chance that Disney will first open up DLT sales to “blue card” members first. Might get sold out from existing members before it’s available to the rest. That would be crazy but the demand seems very high.

 

[RoseGold]

There is also a chance that Disney will first open up DLT sales to “blue card” members first. Might get sold out from existing members before it’s available to the rest. That would be crazy but the demand seems very high.

If the pricing is right, this will be the Christmas party, not Boo Bash. No new construction for many years in California, and no rush to sell insanely priced point hogs.

 

[DaleFan]

Hello! I'm pretty sure you made an offer on my contract! Just wanted to let you know we enjoyed it for many years and I hope you and your family enjoy it as much as we have!! Also, it's a very small world

 

[_auroraborealis_]

DLT will not sell out in presales. Too many points.

Also, presales has never been limited to blue cards, just to existing owners. I don't see that changing, because that's cash money in the door, and getting resale buyers buying direct.

 

[DaveNan]

Note that they may require a minimum buy at DLT - likely 150 - even for existing owners.

This would surprise me. With DLT being mostly studios and many DL stays being 2-4 days versus a week at WDW, 150 pts per year would be too many for most use profiles.

 

[MagicalMommaOf2]

 

[MagicalMommaOf2]

 

[MagicalMommaOf2]

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What do we think of the rooms?

 

[cruisehopeful]

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What do we think of the rooms?

Love it. I'm in.

 

[Paul Stupin]

Resale VGC is an awesome choice. And if it isn't, then sell. I can see it continuing to go up with inflation, like the price of cash GC.

Buying direct DLT seems like a much bigger commitment to me. People here are pricing DLT near RIV, which I think is impossible. I think the chart and pricing of DLT will exceed VGC. The demand is there, and modern Disney doesn't leave money on the table. That would be a decision I would be much more nervous about.

Don't forget DLT resale is also an option five years from now. Who knows what those numbers will be?

I know you’re convinced that pricing for both VGF2 and DLT will be “through the roof,” that the ppp will be monumentally, titanically high. Historically, though, that’s never been the case for new resorts. And you’re mixing apples and oranges when you put the high price for a limited number of points available for sold out resorts with the millions and millions of points that will be available for these new offerings, with a very high initial point buy in for first time purchasers of at least 150 points, and maybe even higher. Disney will make a ton of money with that high point buy in, and will not price the points so high that it will scare new buyers away.
Its not a good idea to steer folks toward a massively overpriced VGC when they will get a better deal by waiting for DLT. And when DLT goes on sale, the lower price point will drive the VGC resale cost down, and folks who buy VGC now will lose money.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

I know you’re convinced that pricing for both VGF2 and DLT will be “through the roof,” that the ppp will be monumentally, titanically high. Historically, though, that’s never been the case for new resorts. And you’re mixing apples and oranges when you put the high price for a limited number of points available for sold out resorts with the millions and millions of points that will be available for these new offerings, with a very high initial point buy in for first time purchasers of at least 150 points, and maybe even higher. Disney will make a ton of money with that high point buy in, and will not price the points so high that it will scare new buyers away.
Its not a good idea to steer folks toward a massively overpriced VGC when they will get a better deal by waiting for DLT. And when DLT goes on sale, the lower price point will drive the VGC resale cost down, and folks who buy VGC now will lose money.

I agree with most of what you’re saying. But VGC is such a tiny resort with barely over a million points compared to DLT that will probably have 7-8 times that. People will love it when the new shiny resort opens but eventually, I think many will always yearn to stay at VGC thus keeping keeping VGC prices at a premium. DLT will also be 95% tiny deluxe studios that only sleep 2-4 while VGC has a nice mix of room types, albeit very limited. I think many who own DLT will still look to swap into VGC at 7 months. Just my opinion.

 

[Royal Consort]

I agree with most of what you’re saying. But VGC is such a tiny resort with barely over a million points compared to DLT that will probably have 7-8 times that. People will love it when the new shiny resort opens but eventually, I think many will always yearn to stay at VGC thus keeping keeping VGC prices at a premium. DLT will also be 95% tiny deluxe studios that only sleep 2-4 while VGC has a nice mix of room types, albeit very limited. I think many who own DLT will still look to swap into VGC at 7 months. Just my opinion.

I used to think that the release of DLT would lower VGC on resale but, like you, I've come to the conclusion that it's unlikely to have a substantial impact on prices. VGC is a boutique DVC product and the Grand is the flagship with rack rate prices significantly higher than its neighbouring property. I was pricing out over Xmas and you could book DLH club level for the same price as the standard room at GCH. I priced it out a week later and GCH was booked out whereas the DLH club was still available. People will still want Grand and will pay a premium for it.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

I used to think that the release of DLT would lower VGC on resale but, like you, I've come to the conclusion that it's unlikely to have a substantial impact on prices. VGC is a boutique DVC product and the Grand is the flagship with rack rate prices significantly higher than its neighbouring property. I was pricing out over Xmas and you could book DLH club level for the same price as the standard room at GCH. I priced it out a week later and GCH was booked out whereas the DLH club was still available. People will still want Grand and will pay a premium for it.

One drawback to VGC might be that the grand lobby will become a whole lot more crowded when all those DLT folks want to go there to hangout since DLT will probably have a similar lobby to Riviera. Same applies for Grand Cal restaurants since there is zero mention of additional dining at DLT.

 

[MagicalMommaOf2]

I am currently closing on my VGC Contract so this made me a little nervous....I hope other posters are right in that it won't affect price much. Disney doesn't even have a waitlist anymore but they tell those that are interested that the minimum price buy in for a contract at VGC is $310 a point.

While I do like the concept art for the new DLT, I do feel like it might lack a little "vavoom" that other and newer DVC resorts offer. I'm a disneyland local so ill buy it regardless but from what I gather most VGC owners are a bit "snobbish" about their contracts at the grand and vow to not even visit the new DLT which made me feel confident to buy. fingers crossed i guess!