New survey .. proposal .. Tiered Ticket Prices

[Lisa loves Pooh]

They'd almost need to create a 5th gate where that was the business model from the get-go. And they'd better have something worthwhile (ie swimming with dolphins) to draw people in.

And free lunch.

 

[mummabear]

I could see a tiered ticket system like this working for packages, with more simplified seasons. Like others had said. Tickets in general would be the gold price but if you booked a package during a lower season you'd get a break on tickets.

See that makes sense to me, it surprised me that my "package" was the same price as buying the room and tickets separately, usually packages are by their nature discounted from buying items on their own.

 

[Reddog1134]

I have a question. The term "guaranteeing lower crowds" keeps coming up in this thread. Was that wording on the survey?

 

[mummabear]

This is the part I don't understand. For most of the year, they'd be pushing their guests to come to the parks less days - essentially sending their customers to the competition on weekends. To go from a 6-day bronze to a 7 day silver is $30pp. For that money, we'll head to Universal.

Except it will cost you $100+ Per person to had to Universal-some people would look at this as biting off your nose to spite your face.

 

[amylevan]

Except it will cost you $100+ Per person to had to Universal-some people would look at this as biting off your nose to spite your face.

But right now, it costs $9 to go from a 6 to 7 day Disney pass, so it's hard to justify heading to a non-Disney park. IMO, they are making that decision to leave a lot more favorable, especially considering the state of HS and EP these days. We'd rather spend $100 to go US than $30 to re-visit a WDW park that we've already been to that week.

Or, we'll head home a day early and they've just lost hotel revenue as well.

I guess it just seems counter-intuitive to all of things they do to try to lock you into staying at WDW and not head to the surrounding attractions.

 

[dfb]

How would they guarantee less crowded? Less crowded relative to what?

 

[Reddog1134]

How would they guarantee less crowded? Less crowded relative to what?

Less crowded then...the days that are...more crowded?!?!

 

[BuzzinDownToDisney]

Kinda feel the only way they can guarantee lower crowds is to declare the park at it's capacity for a day far lower than what it would take to normally close it. And that would have to be significantly less people allowed in. Doing some quick math, but if letting only 20,000 people in for the day and charging them $10 more at $115 each would = $2.3M at the gate. vs. Say the 30,000 who would have been there anyway at $105 each would = $3.45M at the gate. Plus you now have 10,000 less merch customers in the parks. Seems a flawed model.

 

[NjMamaMouse]

I took this survey as well.
I don't remember all of the questions, but one of them was something like "would you be willing to pay more for a ticket if you had GUARANTEED lower crowds?"

How do you think they will guarantee lower crowds if they are boosting crowds on those days by offering cheaper admission? Will they cap the number of people allowed to enter on certain days? Like for the parties?
And not for nothing but if I am paying gold prices...... I would expect smaller crowds if that's the case because I am paying more!

 

[Airb330]

Those non-expiring tickets sure are looking cheap now! I'm glad I have about 14 days left on two tickets.

We generally only go in the parks for 1-2 days on a trip. These prices of $130 per day for a two-day silver hopper will price us out. We can afford it, but it's ridiculous. It definitely means more DVC only trips, perhaps to Universal even, or even selling DVC at some point. Even if we still find DVC to be a good deal, when you add food and ticket prices in like this, a short 2-4 day trip is really expensive.

 

[johde]

Kinda feel the only way they can guarantee lower crowds is to declare the park at it's capacity for a day far lower than what it would take to normally close it. And that would have to be significantly less people allowed in. Doing some quick math, but if letting only 20,000 people in for the day and charging them $10 more at $115 each would = $2.3M at the gate. vs. Say the 30,000 who would have been there anyway at $105 each would = $3.45M at the gate. Plus you now have 10,000 less merch customers in the parks. Seems a flawed model.

Suppose instead of $115 is was $150 * 20,000=$3.0 Mill. And instead of comparing it to gate price you compared with a $65 per day average price on a 5 day ticket $65 * 30,000 = $1.95 Mill. . That's an extra Million Dollars in admission revenue. If you only "closed" 1 park those other 10,000 people in Disney's eyes would just go to one of the other 3 parks that day.

 

[NjMamaMouse]

Increasing $40 per ticket may not seem like a lot in the long haul. But when you are a family of 6.... That is $240! That is a lot...... To put it another way that is 2 dinners out for us!

 

[smidgy]

I know I
m not adding a lot tot his conversation, but........SIGH

 

[Enjoying Life]

Sung to the tune “Wish Upon A Star”:

When you take your boy or girl
For a week at Disneyworld
All the money you have saved, you'll go right through

And when you say you're out of dough
Mickey says: don't look so low
They gladly accept Mastercard and Visa too

 

[cigar95]

Also, remember a bit about survey theory. Asking a question about "guaranteed" smaller crowds does not at all mean that they are planning or proposing doing such a thing. It's designed to get information on how people feel about crowds, in some way or another that we are not privy to. The question doesn't tell us much about what they're really after without a more complete context of the survey. And even then, I suspect we could only guess.
In short, don't try to read too much into survey questions.

 

[Planogirl]

Are the only people receiving this survey people who have recently returned from trips? Or just anyone who is a registered MDE user. I would LOVE to take this survey

I wonder what will happen to No Exp tickets if something like this goes into place. I bought a couple before they got rid of them.

I never get surveys. I get tons of pins but haven't had a survey yet. Hmmmm....

 

[Angeejoe]

I never get surveys. I get tons of pins but haven't had a survey yet. Hmmmm....

I've only gotten 1 survey in 2011 which was on magic bands, lol. I've also only gotten 1 pin & used it 2012. How do you get so many pins???

 

[Donald - my hero]

Are the only people receiving this survey people who have recently returned from trips? Or just anyone who is a registered MDE user. I would LOVE to take this survey

I wonder what will happen to No Exp tickets if something like this goes into place. I bought a couple before they got rid of them.

My survey was based on my visit to EPCOT on OCTOBER 26th ... so i wouldn't say "recently" i had actually forgotten that i had agreed to let one of those wandering I-Pad holders talk to me!

 

[Donald - my hero]

I have a question. The term "guaranteeing lower crowds" keeps coming up in this thread. Was that wording on the survey?

I'm the OP and that question really annoyed me ... the wording was "would you be willing to pay more if you knew it would GUARANTEED TO BE LESS CROWDED" BTW my answer was NO! the next question (if not immediately soon there-after) asked why ... so i told them! There is no way that you can guarantee that the time between me buying my "special super-deluxe" ticket and when i actually show up at the gate you haven't "over-sold" those tickets. I also pointed out that they didn't provide the cost of an AP to allow me to make an accurate cost comparison.

 

[kathy884]

Disneyland Paris FYI already has the tiered pricing.