New SD banning abortion..

[Alicnwondrln]

is scary as it says abortion is only legal to save the mother and that RAPE AND INCEST are not enough to give women a choice. I cant imagine being raped and so poor that I could not travel somewhere else to have an abortion IF I CHOOSE TO. WOW. I am pro choice, but could never have an abortion. But i dont think people that are raped and victims of incest should not be given that choice.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11546410/

 

[Nana Annie]

Very, very scary indeed. That women's rights could possibly be pushed backwards 30 years is unthinkable.

I too am pro-choice, although my choice would be to not abort. However, I certainly believe that it is each woman's choice to make that decision. Not a bunch of guys on a supreme court bench.

I did read an article though that said that it would be very, very unlikely that Roe vs. Wade will be overturned.

 

[LukenDC]

This law reflects the intrusive and insensitive mindset of religious zealots. Hopefully this law and the anti-evolution fiasco will prompt a backlash against the fundamentalists. If they had their way they would control everyone's life and the USA would be just like a communist country.

 

[bsnyder]

It will be several years, at least, before this law (and others like it) make it to the Supreme Court. Justice Stevens is 86 years old, so we're sure to have another appointment sooner rather than later.

If you think we've had contentious appointments in the past, I say, you ain't see nothin' yet! We're worried about civil war in Iraq? I'm thinking we may see another civil war right here in the U.S.

 

[scubamouse]

already in SD there are no doctors that perform abortions. There's a dr from another state that travels there to do them once a month. Plus can you imagine if you're a rape victim and having to explain your trauma to get an abortion? It's like being victimized all over again!

I abhor abortion but I really don't think making abortion illegal will reduce the number of abortions. We need to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies and set big goals for how to get there.

I'm sure the same legislators don't have any issue at all with viagra

 

[MrsNick]

Honestly, it's none of my business whether anyone else chooses to have a child or not. Don't know why other people think it's their business.

I don't care whether someone chooses to have an abortion because of rape or incest, or just because they can't afford it, or don't think they would make good parents.

I don't care whether someone chooses to keep a baby whether they're young, old, wealthy or poor.

It is their choice; not my place to pass judgment.

 

[Laura]

already in SD there are no doctors that perform abortions. There's a dr from another state that travels there to do them once a month. Plus can you imagine if you're a rape victim and having to explain your trauma to get an abortion? It's like being victimized all over again!

I abhor abortion but I really don't think making abortion illegal will reduce the number of abortions. We need to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies and set big goals for how to get there.

I'm sure the same legislators don't have any issue at all with viagra

Oh, I absolutely agree with you. And I'm thinking how many men are going to be accused of rape so that a woman can get an abortion? People can be that desperate. How would that part of the law be enforced, even if they added a stipulation?

 

[Sparx]

I'm pro life. But I am pro choice in cases of rape, death or mother and/or fetus, and incest. I'm not totally sure how I stand on this. I think that rape victims should have that right to choose.

 

[Beth76]

And I'm thinking how many men are going to be accused of rape so that a woman can get an abortion?

Not only that but really there is no difference between having an abortion because of rape and just having one because of an accident. I don't like stipulations for rape/incest. It doesn't matter how the child was conceived, the end result is the same.

I wonder how many of those lawmakers and their proponents have adopted American children?

 

[punkin]

Welcome to the brave new world, where the government monitors you private conversations and peeks into your bedroom.

 

[Twinkles6892]

I'm very pro choice. The fact that people are so self-ritous (sp?) that they think they have a right to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body is beyond me. It's right up there with those pharmacists who wont fill precscriptions for BC. I have to wonder if these people think about the lengths that people will go to. There was one case of a 20-something year old girl who accidentily got pregnant with twins. She had her boyfriend step on her stomach until she miscarried. Don't you think it would have been better for everyone had she just gotten the abortion?

JMHO

 

[vettechick99]

Not only that but really there is no difference between having an abortion because of rape and just having one because of an accident. I don't like stipulations for rape/incest. It doesn't matter how the child was conceived, the end result is the same.

I wonder how many of those lawmakers and their proponents have adopted American children?

You know, thats a fantastic point! Actually, they both are! Thanks for bringing them up.

 

[Beth76]

You know, thats a fantastic point! Actually, they both are! Thanks for bringing them up.

It's a cop-out and it bothers me to no end. They want to be anti-abortion, but they also don't want to look insensitive to victims. Either you're anti-abortion or you're not.

 

[cardaway]

It's a cop-out and it bothers me to no end. They want to be anti-abortion, but they also don't want to look insensitive to victims. Either you're anti-abortion or you're not.

People could get more wordy, but why... that says it all.

 

[dmslush]

I'm pro life. But I am pro choice in cases of rape, death or mother and/or fetus, and incest. I'm not totally sure how I stand on this. I think that rape victims should have that right to choose.

You are the reason that I am pro choice. If you ever feel that you need to make a decision of abortion, I want it done in a medical environment, not in a back alley like in Grandoll's day.

 

[kristen821]

At least women always have the choice of putting the baby up for adoption. I personally would never no matter what the circumstance would have an abortion, but I wouldn't look down on other people for having the abortion either. I would much rather put the innocent child up for adoption in the case I was raped if i didn't want the child myself.

 

[froglady]

Interesting.

Some states' lawmakers have decided that a doctor/medical care provider MUST give the MAP, regardless of whether or not a doctor feels it's wrong.

Other states' lawmakers have decided that a doctor cannot perform an abortion, whether or not he feels NOT performing it is wrong.

I think it's wrong for the "state" to get involved with deciding medical treatment.

 

[eclectics]

A lot of people want the abortion issue decided by the individual states. I have a problem with that. Imagine this scenario; S. Dakota outlaws abortion. N. Dakota passes a law allowing abortions with no restrictions. Woman in S. Dakota start to go to N. Dakota to have their abortions done legally. Poor women in S. Dakota start to complain. Women's groups in N. Dakota start to offer free buses to pick up the women and offer them reduced rate clinics. Conservatives in S. Dakota get upset and S. Dakota then passes a law outlawing a woman to cross state lines for the purpose of an abortion. This is where things have the potential to get very ugly indeed. Granted, this is just fiction, but something similar could very well happen. You can't have 50 states with 50 different abortion laws. It would be a nightmare. That's why I think this really should be a federal decision, not a state issue.

 

[froglady]

This is very similar to what happened when NY legalized abortion in ? 1970. (I'm not sure of the exact year) There was a constant influx of women from the New England and Middle Atlantic states coming in to have them. I wasn't one of them, but did come with a friend.

 

[Caradana]

This is very similar to what happened when NY legalized abortion in ? 1970. (I'm not sure of the exact year) There was a constant influx of women from the New England and Middle Atlantic states coming in to have them. I wasn't one of them, but did come with a friend.

Also very akin to Ireland, where abortion is illegal, and medical providers have responded with yachts. Yup, yachts, and they sail out to international waters and perform the procedure.

The logical break I see in abortion bans is this: are people under the delusion that if abortions are illegal, women won't have them? Abortions have gone on since before recorded time. Banning them in theory sounds wonderful, right? "We love life. We worship the babies." Banning them in practice means two things: (1) rich women can get them and poor women can't - because there are always those doctors who will perform a "quiet procedure" for the right person at the right price, knowing that the prospect of shame and loss of status will keep the rich woman quiet - and (2) poor women wind up in other people's houses with unsterilized instruments and uterine damage and 104-degree fevers from infections and blood loss from incompletely expelled placentas.

I could never have one. I would flinch with guilt for the rest of my life. I'm also one of those arrogant little witches who believes her baby might well be capable of a significant contribution to the world, and an abortion would be a social disservice. (okay, I'm kidding with that ... always a firestarter, ha) BUT, I am not the 18-year-old 10th-grade-educated unemployed resident of Sioux Falls who barely manages to feed herself, and looks for love in all the wrong places for lack of any better guidance, and fantasizes about any life unencumbered by the fetus inside her. I'm not going to begrudge that woman her body and her choice because I've been dealt a much better hand. The reason most of us could never consider abortion? Because of the luck of our own births, and the fact that most of us on the Disney Boards can throw down cash for fun and are insulated from the slimier undersides of socioeconomically depressed society.