New policy for reservations based on check IN date

[jdg345]

lol
MS always asked if i was 'done' when i made a one day ressie, noted the file & holds the confirmation...leading me to think it certainly wasn't out of the norm activity

Agreed ...

1st one to walk really needs to post (then the rest of the walkers can blame it all on you)...although imagine the flaming

Since the first weekend of the new policy, and going strong.

rose tinted blinders on - im still of the opin unless prohibition of walking is communicated in writing, it should be permissable

As of now, it is still within the rules to do so.

 

[jdg345]

But a confirmation printed at home is just as official as the one they sent. What's important is the confirmation number. I don't even take my letter out when I check in, they just take my id and look it up. I keep it with me in case they can't find it and so I have the confirmation number.

Actually, I'd prefer to print out my confirmation from the website, that way, it's private. They can send an email stating that my letter is available for viewing or printing. That would work out very well.

I don't consider myself innovative so I'm really surprised that this hasn't been implemented. It's a very minor thing, but it would benefit, the WHOLE SYSTEM. (I think I'll bring this up on another thread).

Imagine the savings!

I understand where you're coming from, and I agree. I'd prefer no paper on this at all and either an automatic e-confirmation or the ability to print your confirmation from the dvcmember website. Right now, the only exception would be Cash Stays, which only generate a paper confirmation and are not visible anywhere except via MS.

I'm going to email the Member Satisfaction Team and suggest e-Confirmations of sorts instead of these paper mailings.

 

[dvcdisney]

I understand where you're coming from, and I agree. I'd prefer no paper on this at all and either an automatic e-confirmation or the ability to print your confirmation from the dvcmember website. Right now, the only exception would be Cash Stays, which only generate a paper confirmation and are not visible anywhere except via MS.

I'm going to email the Member Satisfaction Team and suggest e-Confirmations of sorts instead of these paper mailings.

Psst....also this may be a perfect segway to online booking.

 

[jdg345]

Psst....also this may be a perfect segway to online booking.

I've already requested that ...

 

[dzorn]

I never received a confirmation for your trips. For the last two I booked we received nothing. I would prefer e-mail also.

Denise in MI

 

[Dean]

But by "venturing", Dean, you're speaking for other's people's motives...which you can't possibly really know. The fact that's your thought process shows you don't really understand the alternate POV. Not really. So again, just by pigeonholing, you're diplaying a lack of understanding of those with the alternate POV. By "venturing"...it looks like you're just trying to find an easy way to "discredit" the opposing POV. I don't necessarily think that's your goal, here....I'll give you more credit than that...but again: I'll bet there are a lot of those with the opposing viewpoint who feel like that's what you're doing and, quite frankly, I'll bet they're a bit offended. Again, probably not your intent.

You SAY you get it. But every time you explain it.....you show you don't. It's just a disconnect....we're just belaboring it.

In any event, I think we've gone off on THAT tangent long enough. Suffice to say, any discussion with you on the subject is going to get down to the fundamental disconnect that I think all those with an alternate viewpoint have identified. I think that's good, actually. But not likely something either POV is going to overcome....

I believe you are incorrect but you are entitled to your opinion.

Another excellent post. I think you've pegged the problem perfectly. And yes, Dean's comments as to motive ARE offensive to me.

I am sorry if you are offended by my belief that many of the posters on this thread opposed to the new reservation system have selfish motives that may tend to color their opinion but it is my belief.

 

[Dean]

I just don't understand why it seems more and more that people want to be spoon fed. No one seems to want to do any research. When I want to stay somewhere that is tough to get into, I ask around, search the web, call/email people that have managed to stay there and see what I can learn.

It seems that people that don't want to do the work want to reap all the same rewards. Why should I have to read anything? That's not fair, if you know about it, someone should make it a point to tell me too.

In the case of DBD, it's not complicated. Most of the CM's or Guides would have suggested DBD if you asked how to go about getting a tough to book period/category. So what's the big deal? Should there have been a recording at MS saying "Don't forget! You can always book DBD!" ? Maybe there should be signs in the restrooms that say, "Please remember to wash your hands" too! Oh, wait.

With DBD it wasn't necessarily hidden but there has never been any public written communications from MS on this subject that I recall. And most that found out about it did so on BBS like this, email lists, other members and SOMETIMES from MS. But from MS this suggestion was hit or miss depending on who you talked to and often after one had already been shut out. Thus it wasn't something that everyone had an equal opportunity to know about. That doesn't make it wrong but it certainly wasn't standard knowledge that everyone had equal access to even if they did investigate thoroughly. The same could be said for walking though I don't believe we'll see that option alive for too many months but it depends in large part on how many go that route.

 

[rantnnravin]

And most that found out about it did so on BBS like this, email lists, other members and SOMETIMES from MS.

This almost actually sounds as if it's a statement based on verifiable facts...which it is not. this statement is merely conjecture on the part of someone adept at making anything sound like gospel truth.
Are you in advertising by any chance?

 

[DVC Mike]

2775 posts; 242 unique posters
19% of the posts were posted by 1 Diser
77% of the posts were posted by 42 Disers

Out of over 100,000 DVC members, the posters on this thread make up a pretty small number. I wonder if the DVC owners here on the DISboards (or any of the popular DVC forums on the Internet) are reflective of the actual DVC membership as a whole, or if we're a very unique and different animal.

 

[Goofy's apprentice]

DVC Mike - you really have a point. I don't think that the posters on these boards in general are typical of regular DVC'rs. They are definitely - more into the details.

As an example we have quite a few members in our city.
One family - now uses their points quite often on non-wdw properties and are perfectly happy with their DVC
One family - rarely books before the seven month window and are perfectly happy with their DVC
One family - doesn't even use the internet and never booked dbd and are perfectly happy with their DVC.

I like to read the boards, and contribute once in a while. There is so much knowledge and I definitely have learned a lot as to how to 'work the system'. Is that good? Not sure, but I'll keep looking here for hints.

But I'll also keep looking to my other DVC friends and remember when we first joined and I never lost sleep over whether or not I would get a BWV studio for Food and Wine ! Where did those naive days go?

On topic, after wading through a good part of this thread, I am not in favour of the change, but I am not going to worry about it. The last few changes sent me into a panic (auto waitlist confirm, not able to hold multiple rooms etc) and my panic was unneccessary. Maybe my calling DBD has also been unneccessary. (of course, we don't go at Christmas !)

 

[Sammie]

Out of over 100,000 DVC members, the posters on this thread make up a pretty small number. I wonder if the DVC owners here on the DISboards (or any of the popular DVC forums on the Internet) are reflective of the actual DVC membership as a whole, or if we're a very unique and different animal.

Based on conversations I have had with friends that work MS, DVC management, DVC resort management, I would say the latter is true.

 

[Goofy's apprentice]

Regarding multiple confirmation letters. I always tell them I don't want one. Most of the time I am on the computer at the same time and the reservation is directly available on the website. I can just print from there.

I do think that printing them is a good idea as computer difficulties can arise....

 

[Dean]

This almost actually sounds as if it's a statement based on verifiable facts...which it is not. this statement is merely conjecture on the part of someone adept at making anything sound like gospel truth.
Are you in advertising by any chance?

Take it how you will. Will you at least admit that there are members who had no reasonable chance of finding out about DBD bookings? BTW, I didn't say DBD wasn't OK, only that it wasn't a level playing field for each and every member as many would like to believe. How would one find out about it if they didn't frequent such boards and MS didn't bother to mention it?

 

[EmptyNester]

When you're on the "main" DVC-Planning page, you see the thread title. Then you see who and when the last post was by. To the right of that, you see the number of replies.

Click on that number and you get a break down, by user, of the number of posts.

Yup, can't any credit, the Disboard's did the work for me

 

[keishashadow]

Agreed ...



Since the first weekend of the new policy, and going strong.



As of now, it is still within the rules to do so.

let us know how it works out, w/o walking i'll need to start mine by end of month

I believe you are incorrect but you are entitled to your opinion.

I am sorry if you are offended by my belief that many of the posters on this thread opposed to the new reservation system have selfish motives that may tend to color their opinion but it is my belief.

I'm not offended, nor do i feel anybody has the right to be judgemental as to where one's opinions derive since opinions (by definition) are beliefs, not based on absolute certainty or positive knowledge, but what seems true, valid or probable to one's own mind.

I have no shame in admitting my opinion of this new booking methodology is based upon my own experience & motives (selfish or otherwise ).

Certainly, don't feel as though I should instead be altruistic in lieu of going into game-on mode to secure the ressie I want at the 11 month window (naturally, following whatever rules are in place @ the time) either.

 

[Dean]

I'm not offended, nor do i feel anybody has the right to be judgemental as to where one's opinions derive since opinions (by definition) are beliefs, not based on absolute certainty or positive knowledge, but what seems true, valid or probable to one's own mind.

I have no shame in admitting my opinion of this new booking methodology is based upon my own experience & motives (selfish or otherwise ).

Certainly, don't feel as though I should instead be altruistic in lieu of going into game-on mode to secure the ressie I want at the 11 month window (naturally, following whatever rules are in place @ the time) either.

Fair enough, that's honest. Thanks for understanding.

 

[jdg345]

Take it how you will. Will you at least admit that there are members who had no reasonable chance of finding out about DBD bookings? BTW, I didn't say DBD wasn't OK, only that it wasn't a level playing field for each and every member as many would like to believe. How would one find out about it if they didn't frequent such boards and MS didn't bother to mention it?

Osmosis ?

 

[Goofy's apprentice]

Sorry....but is there any chance that anyone has any new information to post other than repeats of what has been said over and over again.

Think it's time for everyone to 'agree to disagree'? Maybe that will help bring some new topics or ideas to attention....

 

[Bopsmom]

Yup, can't any credit, the Disboard's did the work for me

Well, that's not fair!

I've been on the Disboards for a year and I didn't know about that!

 

[keishashadow]

Fair enough, that's honest. Thanks for understanding.

U r most welcome

ps: told u we Realtors were an honest lot

will say it's nice to see that this thread has managed to last so long despite so many with polar opposite viewpoints...downright civilized...imagine that .