New movie "Orphan"

[luvmy3]

Isn't this a common theme for horror movies? The Omen anyone?

 

[mjantz]

I just spoiled myself on the movies ending & I have to say that as a PP said that could never, ever happen in real life & that is a horrid, freaky ending that is IMO just wrong. And I would have never, ever seen it coming!

 

[JenM]

Isn't this a common theme for horror movies? The Omen anyone?

Thank you. The Omen is one of my favorite horror movies, and that movie is literally about the adoption from hell.

The original tag line was in poor taste, and they changed it. I've seen ads for it all over NYC the last week or so and they all have the new tagline ("There's something wrong with Esther.") I only heard about the old tagline when I read a news article about it, so they obviously worked quickly to change it.

It's a horror movie. Not a slam against adoption. And I will not be boycotting it - because it looks really good!

 

[Octoberbride03]

Ok, now you got me curious for the spoiler. I don't hardly ever go to the movies anymore so I know I won't be seeing this 1. Just not the kind of movie I want to spend my money on anymore(meaning the whole horror genre, not just this 1). I've just started looking into adopting, but I'm not going to get upset over a movie. Done in bad taste probably, but lots of movies qualify as that. So if somebody wants to PM me the spoiler that would be good. Thanks.

 

[JenM]

This spoiler has me more curious to see the movie, but I don't want to know what it is. I hate having movies spoiled before I see it.

 

[npmommie]

ok I must be doing a bad search, I can't find the spoiler!
can someone post the link where you found the spoiler?

 

[browneyes106]

^I'll pm you the spoiler. To Eeyores_Butterfly I must have logged off before you posted. Sorry I didn't see it sooner.

 

[starann]

COuld someone PM the spoiler to me?

Thanks!

 

[browneyes106]

^I'll send it to you.

 

[Julylady]

Can someone PM me the spoiler as well? My brother has adopted two girls and is really upset about this movie. I would like to be able to share the spoiler with him.

 

[Handbag Lady]

I make it a rule to never complain about a movie until I've actually viewed it. I suggest others do the same.

Getting all riled up over a marketing tactic isn't very clever.

 

[KAMLEM]

I do find it funny that they call the girl an orphan since there are no longer orphanages so technically no orphans.

Regardless of whether orphanages exist or not, there are still orphans. An orphan is a child without a mother or father.

 

[browneyes106]

I make it a rule to never complain about a movie until I've actually viewed it. I suggest others do the same.

Getting all riled up over a marketing tactic isn't very clever.

When I first checked out the Orphan board on IMDB a month ago there were posts from people who didn't like the marketing tactics. But some of those people changed their viewpoints after reading the spoilers.

 

[MickeySP]

I can't believe people have nothing better to do than complain about the title and topic of a movie.

Give me a break and stop being so hypersensitive about things. It's a movie - freedom of expression.

ITA and btw I am an adopted child. I find it more offensive that people think I would not be able to separate reality from a movie.

This movie is R if I am not mistaken so how are young impressionable adopted children going to see it, unless their adoptive parents take them.

 

[angwill]

Regardless of whether orphanages exist or not, there are still orphans. An orphan is a child without a mother or father.

Technically you are right there are orphans but both mother and father would be dead if they are an orphan. There are now foster homes and children's care facilities. The majority of children in foster care and childrens homes still have living parents so they are foster children not orphans. Most orphans would have been loved before their parents died so they would not have attachment disorders causing them to act like a pschopath unlike Ester in the movie. LOL None of this really applies since Ester is not really a child in the movie.

 

[mjantz]

For those looking for a movie spoiler, the IMDB board for the movie has a ton of threads that talk about the spoiler.

 

[Sir Robin Hood]

I just spoiled myself on the movies ending & I have to say that as a PP said that could never, ever happen in real life & that is a horrid, freaky ending that is IMO just wrong. And I would have never, ever seen it coming!

I don't want to know the ending. I'm actually looking forward to this film since it looks like *finally* a decent horror/thriller that isn't ruined by cheap CGI tricks. CGI has (imo) completely ruined the horror genre of the past decade, with maybe one or two exceptions.
I honestly don't think this film will make people think down about orphan children. Like several of the pp's mentioned...this is fiction and just for fun; not trying to change the world with a deep message or anything. After reading the book Cujo, I never thought about getting rid of our dog or started thinking animals were bad. (And that story has a higher chance of actually occuring in real life than this Orphan movie).

 

[EMom]

I make it a rule to never complain about a movie until I've actually viewed it. I suggest others do the same.

Getting all riled up over a marketing tactic isn't very clever.

I don't give a rat's hiney about this movie. It matters little to me if it's good or bad, since we see so few movies these days. And heaven knows DD won't see it. So it's not the content of the movie I'm commenting on, but rather the original tagline. (They may have changed it, but they sure didn't have a problem using it, did they?)

Make all the suggestions you want. I suggest you consider the feelings of a young child who hears the words on a TV ads ("It must be hard to love an adopted child as much as your own.") and feels like they've been punched in the gut. To put an ad like that in general distribution where kids of all ages can hear it is irresponsible and downright cruel. It's not being hypersensitive to get irritated when adults don't give a moment's consideration to the emotional well-being of children who have already been through a hell of a lot. Hearing that they are "harder to love" and "not your own" is like a knife to the heart if the child has ANY insecurities whatsoever.

What kind of a person thinks it's perfectly okay to continue hurting children this way and that it's no big deal? Words can hurt children. Would any of us tell our kids they are fat, stupid , ugly or worthless? NO! Then why is it "harmless" for a movie ad to target adopted kids and imply they are second best, not as easy to love and not as good as having a biological child?

Yes, my Mama Bear kicks in on this issue. I'd be a piece of crap mother if it didn't. When I see people giving no thought whatsoever to saying things that can cause pain to my child or any other adopted child, it pisses me off. I have to wonder just how much compassion they have...and how much sense.

When I say the phrase is THOUGHTLESS, I mean that in the most basic sense. The person who decided it was a great tagline gave zero thought, no consideration at all to the impact the words could have......not a moment's thought to the potential and even, probable consequences of such words. They had diarrhea of the mouth and spewed out what they thought was a clever line without once taking time to THINK about what effect it would have on some adopted children. There are a lot of words to describe people who do thoughtless things that hurt children, when just a few moments of thinking and deciding to not be unkind to children would have stopped them in their tracks.....and none of those words are flattering.

If I had to choose, I'd go with taking the course that would not be cruel to a group of children and use some other line from the beginning. Clearly, that is just not a concern for some people. I mean.....they're just kids.

 

[ireland_nicole]

Could someone pm me the spoiler link, too? I can't find it anywhere.
Thanks

 

[Sir Robin Hood]

To put an ad like that in general distribution where kids of all ages can hear it is irresponsible and downright cruel.

Kids surprisingly know the difference between make-believe and reality much more than we give them credit for.