New Contract, Different UY?

[gmi3804]

I have two BLT contracts with September UYs, which show up on my DVC owner's site page as combined points for September.

If I purchase a new contract at a different resort and a different UY, will this contract and point allotment still show up on the same page of My Vacation Points, but with different UYs?

 

[RobDoc]

Yes. We have three different Memberships at two resorts with 3 different Use Years and all show up on our online member account. It is pretty easy to track those and MS will allow you to transfer points between the different memberships to make reservations (11 months if the same resort and at 7 months if different resorts).

Enjoy!

 

[GoofyLo]

Be glad you can see both contracts when you login on line. I bought with my parents years ago (fresh out of college). Years later, I'm married with kids and we purchased more points. My mom passed away, but my dad, husband, and myself are on the new contract. My mom's been gone three years now and I can't bring myself to delete her number from my phone let alone have her taken off DVC contract. Anyway because all of the names are not the same, I have to log in and out between the two. If I had known that before purchasing our second contract I would have made sure they were the same. At least in our case the Use Year is the same.

 

[tjkraz]

Just to expand on Doc's comments, with separate Use Years the contracts exist as stand alone entities. You cannot easily combine points for a single reservation...not like when you have the same Use Year. Right now the only way to combine them is with a phone call to Member Services. So you'll need to prepare for those phone calls and make sure you don't get yourself into a pinch when trying to make a 7/11 month reservation. Online reservations start at 8am but MS doesn't open until 9am. You could end up at least an hour behind other folks trying to book.

Right now DVC does not enforce the "one transfer per year" limit when there is shared ownership but I guess it's a possibility that philosophy that could change. I doubt they will ever change those rules but in the interest of full disclosure, it's worth mentioning.

In GoofyLo's case, I suspect the separate logons are necessary because the contracts are titled differently. If you want everything merged together you need to make sure the contracts have exactly the same ownership.

And obviously you'll have to monitor separate banking deadlines.

Personally I think it's a lot easier to add points in the same Use Year. Add up all of these annoyances and separate Use Years will create some headaches over the next 40-50 years. To an active, seasoned owner it's probably easy to stay on top of everything. But if it's just a case of waiting a few more weeks for a similar contract to appear with the same UY--or paying a couple dollars more per point--personally I'd go that route. All it takes is one lost reservation or forgotten banking deadline to make the wait worthwhile.

YMMV.

 

[Dean]

Be glad you can see both contracts when you login on line. I bought with my parents years ago (fresh out of college). Years later, I'm married with kids and we purchased more points. My mom passed away, but my dad, husband, and myself are on the new contract. My mom's been gone three years now and I can't bring myself to delete her number from my phone let alone have her taken off DVC contract. Anyway because all of the names are not the same, I have to log in and out between the two. If I had known that before purchasing our second contract I would have made sure they were the same. At least in our case the Use Year is the same.

If you ever decide to try to change them all to the same name, please let us know what you find out about actually combining the contracts.

 

[georgeat]

Just to expand on Doc's comments, with separate Use Years the contracts exist as stand alone entities. You cannot easily combine points for a single reservation...not like when you have the same Use Year. Right now the only way to combine them is with a phone call to Member Services. So you'll need to prepare for those phone calls and make sure you don't get yourself into a pinch when trying to make a 7/11 month reservation. Online reservations start at 8am but MS doesn't open until 9am. You could end up at least an hour behind other folks trying to book.

Right now DVC does not enforce the "one transfer per year" limit when there is shared ownership but I guess it's a possibility that philosophy that could change. I doubt they will ever change those rules but in the interest of full disclosure, it's worth mentioning.

In GoofyLo's case, I suspect the separate logons are necessary because the contracts are titled differently. If you want everything merged together you need to make sure the contracts have exactly the same ownership.

And obviously you'll have to monitor separate banking deadlines.

Personally I think it's a lot easier to add points in the same Use Year. Add up all of these annoyances and separate Use Years will create some headaches over the next 40-50 years. To an active, seasoned owner it's probably easy to stay on top of everything. But if it's just a case of waiting a few more weeks for a similar contract to appear with the same UY--or paying a couple dollars more per point--personally I'd go that route. All it takes is one lost reservation or forgotten banking deadline to make the wait worthwhile.

YMMV.

I may not completly understand the question and responses, but let me explain my situation.

I have three different memberships (numbers are different). Two of them can be seen on the same login. The first is OKW and AKV purchased with my youngest son and his wife and my on the contract. It is a September use year. The second (with the same login) is at BWV purchased by JUST my wife and I. It has an August use year and different member number. The last is at OKW (purchased from my oldest son) in my wife and my name and is an October use year (third member number) It requires a different login. Tried once to get it combined with the first login but CM said it couldn't be done. (It was a direct resale from son to wife and me, through Disney no third party)

To summarize
3 different use years (August, September, October)
2 different logins (xxxxxxxxxx, xxxxxxxx)
3 different resorts (OKW AKV BWV)

How is that one explained?

 

[RobDoc]

I may not completly understand the question and responses, but let me explain my situation.

I have three different memberships (numbers are different). Two of them can be seen on the same login. The first is OKW and AKV purchased with my youngest son and his wife and my on the contract. It is a September use year. The second (with the same login) is at BWV purchased by JUST my wife and I. It has an August use year and different member number. The last is at OKW (purchased from my oldest son) in my wife and my name and is an October use year (third member number) It requires a different login. Tried once to get it combined with the first login but CM said it couldn't be done. (It was a direct resale from son to wife and me, through Disney no third party)

To summarize
3 different use years (August, September, October)
2 different logins (xxxxxxxxxx, xxxxxxxx)
3 different resorts (OKW AKV BWV)

How is that one explained?

It sounds like you might want to call Member Administration and talk to someone again. IMO, at least the BWV and OKW memberships could/should be in the same login. The first one, if any, might need to be a separate login since the ownership is obviously different.

I'd call as many times as needed until someone can either accommodate you or explain why it is impossible. I would also write to membersatisfaction@dvcmember.com asking for assistance.

Good luck!

 

[Dean]

I may not completly understand the question and responses, but let me explain my situation.

I have three different memberships (numbers are different). Two of them can be seen on the same login. The first is OKW and AKV purchased with my youngest son and his wife and my on the contract. It is a September use year. The second (with the same login) is at BWV purchased by JUST my wife and I. It has an August use year and different member number. The last is at OKW (purchased from my oldest son) in my wife and my name and is an October use year (third member number) It requires a different login. Tried once to get it combined with the first login but CM said it couldn't be done. (It was a direct resale from son to wife and me, through Disney no third party)

To summarize
3 different use years (August, September, October)
2 different logins (xxxxxxxxxx, xxxxxxxx)
3 different resorts (OKW AKV BWV)

How is that one explained?

You're likely lucky that the first 2 are combined. They are supposed to be identical in title/names to be combined as I understand it and these aren't. I don't think any of us know the answer of how to get them combined. I'd agree to call back and ask, maybe talking to several people over time. My guess is DVC will not combine them in your situation unless you were to play some games (sell and rebuy them) and you might lose any qualified status by doing so. Talk to them and ask how you can get them all under 1 roof but I'm guessing they'll tell you that you can't. Let us know back what you find out.

 

[gmi3804]

Thanks to those who responded. I got the answer to my question, and learned a few more things too.

 

[GoofyLo]

If you ever decide to try to change them all to the same name, please let us know what you find out about actually combining the contracts.

We asked about doing that, but because it's a deed you have to do all of the legal paperwork and fees. In the long run it would make life easier and we will probably do it.

 

[Dean]

We asked about doing that, but because it's a deed you have to do all of the legal paperwork and fees. In the long run it would make life easier and we will probably do it.

When I said change them, I was referring to changing the deed. Here's the issue, will they combine them IF you change the deed, my guess is they will not. I'd get a firm commitment in writing before I changed it unless there are other pressing issues that force the name change anyway.

 

[CaliforniaDreaming]

Interesting. With the thought of GFV and the realization that the initial cost will be a close to 3x what BWV resale points are, we're thinking it might be worthwhile to pick up some more BWV points for the time being.

Currently, we have a December use year. Thinking an October use year would work best for us (using them during F&W), but that would split the points between two use years. If we'd go that route, that means we'd have to call MS at exactly the 11 month window to transfer points between contracts? But, if we'd have two December use years, they'd essentially always be combined and we could do seamless online reservations? To me, not having to call and move points around sounds like a great benefit. Does my thinking sound right?

 

[tjkraz]

Currently, we have a December use year. Thinking an October use year would work best for us (using them during F&W), but that would split the points between two use years. If we'd go that route, that means we'd have to call MS at exactly the 11 month window to transfer points between contracts?

If you own two contacts with different UY and the SAME home resort, then yes you would have to call MS to get points transferred before you could combine for any booking.

If you own multiple contracts with different UY and DIFFERENT home resort(s), there is nothing to combine at 11 months. You can only use points owned at a resort to book at 11 mos. At 7 mos you could combine those points, which would also require a call.

But, if we'd have two December use years, they'd essentially always be combined and we could do seamless online reservations?

Assuming you have the contracts titled identically, that is correct. It would also be wise to specifically mention to your resale broker that you would like the new contract added to your existing Master membership. That way they can pass word along to DVC. If not given a heads-up, sometimes DVC just creates a new Master contract without checking for existing ownership.

 

[Dean]

Assuming you have the contracts titled identically, that is correct. It would also be wise to specifically mention to your resale broker that you would like the new contract added to your existing Master membership. That way they can pass word along to DVC. If not given a heads-up, sometimes DVC just creates a new Master contract without checking for existing ownership.

Tim, I'd qualify that position personally. While DVC has generally combined contracts that were titled the same, I know of exceptions that they would not later correct. I think it's also possible that one of the changes we could see related to resales is loss of the ability to combine such contracts. So generally I'd agree with your statement, there are some important caveat's.