New BLT direct incentives!

[KTownRaider]

Now that DVC has announced these incentives, I can't help but wonder if we'll see BLT's direct rate increase once these incentives expire in March (ala BWV after it's better than average Nov/Dec incentives expired). Could this be the last train to leave the station before it hits $260??

 

[DVChris]

Now that DVC has announced these incentives, I can't help but wonder if we'll see BLT's direct rate increase once these incentives expire in March (ala BWV after it's better than average Nov/Dec incentives expired). Could this be the last train to leave the station before it hits $260??

Yes, I believe a price increase is coming... maybe even before these incentives expire. BWV direct jumped $40.

 

[DVChris]

I wonder if they will offer these good incentives for all the resorts, one by one.

 

[Bjaiken77]

I saw the announcement (sorry, I’m blind). It’s really good with 300 points, but that’s a good chunk of change (approx $60K). It’s still really expensive if you want to add on a more moderately sized contract (ex. 150 points).

 

[RoseGold]

Also bodes we’ll for DLT too!

If you think low pricing is good for DVC, which I don't, as an existing owner. DVC is supposed to be working in our interests. Fire sales on their cheap properties, like Aulani, and bargain basementing points undermines our value. Points are fungible, and DVC's recent actions are lowering the value of those points.

There's no reason they can't throw up a cheap Vero2 and dilute our points more.

I get DVC obviously wants to sell something, and RIV didn't go great because they are competing with their own legacy properties. But the owners of those legacy properties are us and we have no way to defend the dilution. This works great when prices are going up, but right now... DVC is feeling very timeshare-y.

 

[DonMacGregor]

I wonder if they will offer these good incentives for all the resorts, one by one.

That's what I was asking/suggesting upthread... A 'door-buster" of the month thread, ala a 65" OLED TV for $499 (if you can get there in time to grab one of the 3 they have in stock).

 

[Bjaiken77]

That's what I was asking/suggesting upthread... A 'door-buster" of the month thread, ala a 65" OLED TV for $499 (if you can get there in time to grab one of the 3 they have in stock).

Haha…yeah, but I have $499 on hand to put down on a TV a lot more readily than the cost of a fat DVC contract. I mean, this is a great deal for those who wanted to buy a big chunk direct at BLT. I know that’s how incentives work: More points equals greater incentives. However, it’s still makes a contract less than 200 points favorable on the resale market.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

There's no reason they can't throw up a cheap Vero2 and dilute our points more.

Vero2 buyers wouldn't be able to book AKV at 10 months, and I can.

They can only dilute sleep around points.

 

[DonMacGregor]

Haha…yeah, but I have $499 on hand to put down on a TV a lot more readily than the cost of a fat DVC contract. I mean, this is a great deal for those who wanted to buy a big chunk direct at BLT. I know that’s how incentives work: More points equals greater incentives. However, it’s still makes a contract less than 200 points favorable on the resale market.

Until Disney sells out of those points (because there's zero chance they are sitting on hundreds of thousands of sold-out resort points), and the deal is no more and the resale market no longer has to compete at that price point.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

If you think low pricing is good for DVC, which I don't, as an existing owner. DVC is supposed to be working in our interests. Fire sales on their cheap properties, like Aulani, and bargain basementing points undermines our value. Points are fungible, and DVC's recent actions are lowering the value of those points.

There's no reason they can't throw up a cheap Vero2 and dilute our points more.

I get DVC obviously wants to sell something, and RIV didn't go great because they are competing with their own legacy properties. But the owners of those legacy properties are us and we have no way to defend the dilution. This works great when prices are going up, but right now... DVC is feeling very timeshare-y.

I think DVC resale prices have experienced an unhealthy and unsustainable price iinflation since the pandemic due to low supply and ridiculous demand. There’s nothing wrong with some correction by infusing more supply. If anything, more direct points is probably healthy for the market in the long term. Besides, i don’t think there’s anything wrong with wanting Disney to price DLT at more sensible prices.

 

[Bjaiken77]

I hope VGF has a reasonable base price (pre-incentives). I’d prefer not to have to buy 300 points to get it at a good price point. I know that’s how incentives work (before I get those comments). That’s why I would like a good base price with modest incentives. We shall see.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Haha…yeah, but I have $499 on hand to put down on a TV a lot more readily than the cost of a fat DVC contract. I mean, this is a great deal for those who wanted to buy a big chunk direct at BLT. I know that’s how incentives work: More points equals greater incentives. However, it’s still makes a contract less than 200 points favorable on the resale market.

Do you get the incentive pricing if you buy multiple smaller contracts?

Like could I buy 10 100 point contracts and get the 1,000 point incentive, then sell 8 of them on the resale market?

 

[Chuck96]

I'm not a current member, but BLT is my wife's first choice. Any chance they'll offer a deal for new DVC recruits?

 

[HIRyeDVC]

I'm not a current member, but BLT is my wife's first choice. Any chance they'll offer a deal for new DVC recruits?

Yes! The incentives are slightly less for new members but still very good

 

[HIRyeDVC]

Do you get the incentive pricing if you buy multiple smaller contracts?

Like could I buy 10 100 point contracts and get the 1,000 point incentive, then sell 8 of them on the resale market?

Yes, but that’s a whole lot of paper work and closing costs

 

[RoseGold]

There’s nothing wrong with some correction by infusing more supply. If anything, more direct points is probably healthy for the market in the long term.

I'm sure Vero2 was in the DVC discussions about where to go now. Buy some hotel on the beach, voila points! Other than flipping old hotel rooms, it's the cheapest way to get more points for Disney to sell. Instead, they firesaled Aulani for $133, which impacted all of us and the value of our points.

DVC's interests don't match ours, and I'd imagine Vero2 is still on the table. Or selling Vero, now that DVC isn't making money off of selling it.

 

[Bjaiken77]

Sorry, read wrong

 

[DVChris]

Do you get the incentive pricing if you buy multiple smaller contracts?

Like could I buy 10 100 point contracts and get the 1,000 point incentive, then sell 8 of them on the resale market?

Yes, Disney doesn't care what you do with the points after you buy them.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Yes, Disney doesn't care what you do with the points after you buy them.

I know I could sell them, I was more asking if I'd qualify for the discounted pricing up front.

 

[DVChris]

I know I could sell them, I was more asking if I'd qualify for the discounted pricing up front.

Yes, if you buy 1000 points direct all at once, you would qualify. No different than buying 300 or 500. Breaking them into smaller contracts is not an issue, just more closing costs.