Nemo finds more to do- Rides, a show will be based on the clownfish.

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Nemo finds more to do
Rides, a show and a pavilion will be based on the clownfish.

Scott Powers | Sentinel Staff Writer
Posted September 22, 2006

Little Nemo is making a big splash at Walt Disney World -- and at Disneyland.

Three years after the release of Pixar's animated blockbuster film Finding Nemo, the little cartoon fish and his friends are getting new rides at Epcot and Disneyland, a whole Epcot pavilion renamed for them, plus a new show at Disney's Animal Kingdom.

Including the Turtle Talk With Crush show that opened at Epcot in late 2004, Finding Nemo is about to become one of the most visible franchises in Mickey's realm.

"It's such a compelling movie with great characters, great story line; it just translates so well here," said Kathy Mangum, vice president of Walt Disney Imagineering and executive producer of the new ride, The Seas With Nemo & Friends, which opens in mid-October to season ticket holders and possibly in late October to everyone else.

That family-oriented ride will take visitors on a relaxing voyage through an undersea world, where Nemo gets lost again, and his father, Marlin, and friends, including Dori and Crush, find him again.

This time the adventure mixes new, high-tech animation projection techniques recently developed by Walt Disney Imagineering with Epcot's 20-year-old, 6 million-gallon aquarium. The result: After Nemo and his friends move through a few constructed sets with robotic jellyfish and other animals, their images appear in the aquarium, looking as if they're swimming among real fish, rays, sharks and turtles.

The ride is housed in Epcot's sea pavilion, which also features Turtle Talk and other displays now carrying the Nemo theme. For a couple of years, models of Nemo and his friends have highlighted a garden out front. Now the whole pavilion is getting a Nemo makeover. A mural with more Nemo-themed sea life is being painted on the pavilion's exterior. Robotic sea gulls, borrowed from the movie, stand out front and will shout, "Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine!"

And when the wooden construction walls come down in a couple of weeks, people will see the former The Living Seas Pavilion has been renamed, with the same name as the ride: The Seas With Nemo & Friends Pavilion.

"We're turning this pavilion almost 100 percent into Nemo-themed," Mangum said. "We had a pavilion that was ready for some updating. And we're always looking for ways to add character presence in a relevant way. The overlay just made a lot of sense."

Nemo doesn't stop there.

"Finding Nemo -- The Musical," a new stage show, opens with previews in November and a grand opening in January at Disney's Animal Kingdom. Next summer the Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage ride, a remake of the 47-year-old submarine attraction, opens at Disneyland in California.

Disney, which acquired its longtime business partner Pixar this year, is fortunate to have such popular characters to build on, said Jerry Aldrich, president of Orlando-based Amusement Industry Consulting. Many theme parks struggle to come up with familiar characters to build attractions around, he said.

"I guess it's got some legs to it, doesn't it," he said of the Nemo franchise.

That it does, said Jane Davis, aquarium curator for The Seas With Nemo & Friends Pavilion. The aquarium was designed and run for years as a chance for visitors to watch live fish, sea turtles, rays, sharks, dolphins and other sea life, while Disney marine biologists and other scientists conducted research. Davis said it doesn't bother her at all that the serious work is now sharing the spotlight with a fictional clownfish and his friends.

She said the popularity of Nemo was one of the best things that's happened in recent years to aquarium interest, not just at Disney but everywhere. People are coming out to aquariums because of the film, she said.

"Nemo was phenomenal for us, and phenomenal for our industry," she said.

She's going to make Nemo work for it, though. The pavilion always delivered ocean conservation messages. Now Nemo and his friends will help.

Visitors brought in by Nemo, she said, "are all so enthusiastic. They care now. That's what we want. We want them to care about animals. We want them to take care of the oceans, to stop polluting. All those great messages. Nemo's the hook we can use to grab them."
 
they're doing way too much. I think that Epcot should have no Disney characers (except Figment) at all, It's becoming just another character theme park
 
yalegracey said:
they're doing way too much. I think that Epcot should have no Disney characers (except Figment) at all, It's becoming just another character theme park

Thats how it was at the beginning. But everybody kept asking "where's the characters?" I don't mind it if it makes sense. Like Nemo at the Living Seas or Pinnochio in Italy or Robin Hood in England.
 
As long as the characters are enhancing the edutainment aspect, not replacing it, I have no problems. The Nemo overlay seems to do that though, I would have preferred they not let the attraction die over the years in the first place thus neccessitating a major enhancment.

I have no problem with appropriate meet and greets either as long as they don't detract from the feel of the country.
 

YoHo said:
I have no problem with appropriate meet and greets either as long as they don't detract from the feel of the country.

Sorry, I should have said the same thing.
 
I'm glad to see a renewed interest in the Living Seas. It is far and away one of the most expensive attractions at Epcot (if not the entire park system), and I'd hate to see it disappear.
I've done Divequest a couple of times, and I'm wondering if I could see Nemo from inside the tank. Now, that would be cool.
 
ford family said:
Arab in an Arab country? What's to get?

ford family

I suppose the point is Alladin is Middle-eastern in origin, and Morocco is NW Africa.
 
MJMcBride said:
I suppose the point is Alladin is Middle-eastern in origin, and Morocco is NW Africa.
I understand the geographical point but the "background" is the same, same language, same architecture, same culture etc. A much better fit than letting him hang out in Mexico! Gotta work the inventory.

ford family
 
While it's certainly a better fit then Mexico, :rolleyes
Morocco is NOT arab, they DON'T speak the same version of Arabic, They're Ethnically Berber with some Arabic. Their Architecture is different and their culture is distinct.

They have a large French influence, Moorish influence. To simply group them in with the middle east is at the very least offensive.

I understand why Disney put Aladdin there, because they didn't have the flying carpets yet and they needed a meet and great, but it's horribly small minded and dumb. Way to pander to the lowest commmon denominator.
 
ford family said:
I understand the geographical point but the "background" is the same, same language, same architecture, same culture etc. A much better fit than letting him hang out in Mexico! Gotta work the inventory.

ford family

I have to agree with Yoho. Maybe you should ask a Moroccan native if he has the same culture and backround. Its like saying England and Spain have the same culture and backround.
 
YoHo said:
While it's certainly a better fit then Mexico, :rolleyes
Morocco is NOT arab, they DON'T speak the same version of Arabic, They're Ethnically Berber with some Arabic. Their Architecture is different and their culture is distinct.

They have a large French influence, Moorish influence. To simply group them in with the middle east is at the very least offensive.

I understand why Disney put Aladdin there, because they didn't have the flying carpets yet and they needed a meet and great, but it's horribly small minded and dumb. Way to pander to the lowest commmon denominator.
What complete and utter rubbish.
Go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco and read all about it.

ford family
 
MJMcBride said:
I have to agree with Yoho. Maybe you should ask a Moroccan native if he has the same culture and backround. Its like saying England and Spain have the same culture and backround.

I have asked him and he agrees with me, that is why he went to Mecca last year, and had no problem being understood by the locals.
As for your crack about England and Spain, the latter has far more in common with Arabia than Europe especially with language and architecture. Many words in Spanish come from Arabic whilst Moorish arches are commonplace in Spain but unknown further north where the Arabs did not rule for centuries.

ford family
 
How did a thread on a new Nemo overlay at The Living Seas turn into a PC debate on which Arab is on first, and who's on second in less than 15 posts?
C'mon, guys............ :confused3
 
I will freely admit my disclaimer that I pretty much know nothing about this subject! I am just interested in the answer to the question. It does say on the wikipedia site that it is the least arabic of all arab countries, and that it is mostly berber. Very interesting. I am curious to try the food there, and haven't yet. Maybe one of us could ask one of the Moroccan cast members there what their opinion is.


Ford Family, I am in Palmetto, FL! I can see you across the river!
:sail:
 
mitros said:
How did a thread on a new Nemo overlay at The Living Seas turn into a PC debate on which Arab is on first, and who's on second in less than 15 posts?
C'mon, guys............ :confused3

Its the beauty of these boards. And I agree Spain has more in common with Morocco then Arabia does.
 
MJMcBride said:
Its the beauty of these boards. And I agree Spain has more in common with Morocco then Arabia does.
Well, you may call it the "beauty" of the boards, but the moderators will close it down if they feel it has become more of a debate then a discussion, and they will also eventually say it has gone too far off topic. :offtopic: They used to have a debate board here, but I guess it became too nasty, so they got rid of it..........
 
A lot of the debaters ended up here...

We try to allow a fair amount of leeway on topics like this - as long as it remains Disney. Just remember that the cardinal rule is to be polite to your fellow posters... Disagree with the factual points, or the opinion, but do not attack your fellow posters.

Sarangel
 
yalegracey said:
they're doing way too much. I think that Epcot should have no Disney characers (except Figment) at all, It's becoming just another character theme park


YOu are so right!! PLUS I really do not like NEMO all that much. I wish if itwere to be anything it was related to Little Mermaid. If I am not mistaken the ride originally was to have a Little Mermaid theme. I rememeber riding on the stupid cars when the ride opened and there was not all that much to see but this was years ago.
 


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