Need Help! First Trip Home Disasterous!

[lenshanem]

CarolA, and when do the Brazilian tour groups come? LOL

No, actually, I'm being serious!

 

[Doug Wolfe]

I suspect if Disney "warned" people of gay days they would probably face some legal problems. I suspect they have no choice but to remain silent.

 

[twotoohappy]

Re:first trip home disasterous.....

I'll keep it short because it's not the debate board....

Give me a break!

That's my view. Here's some other thoughts to think of.....

"One day our descendants will think it incredible that we paid so much attention to things like the amount of melanin in our skin or the shape of our eyes or our gender instead of the unique identities of each of us as complex human beings. " ~Franklin Thomas

"If you judge people you have no time to love them." ~Mother Teresa

If you're concerned about your children, then teach them equality not prejudice and to respect others for who they are. My dd is brought up to treat others equally.

Hope you enjoy your trip.

 

[Chuck S]

Originally posted by Doug Wolfe
I suspect if Disney "warned" people of gay days they would probably face some legal problems. I suspect they have no choice but to remain silent.

I prefer to believe it is because they value and respect ALL of their guests.

 

[CarolA]

I "think" the tour groups come in the summer, but who knows. As I understand it the number of these groups has dropped dramatically. Maybe the fact that they all have to get fingerprinted at customs has discouraged them (can you imagine how long this takes?)

 

[disneyfreakjackie]

Originally posted by Beca
(besides, I have heard that the "groups from Brazil" and "cheerleaders" are a lot more bothersome).

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=526829&highlight=+gay++days



Beca

OK, I won't be TOO offended by the "cheerleader" dig. By the way, CHEERLEADERS ARE NOT BOTHERSOME, I have FOUR!!!" The football players on the other hand . . .

OK, now that I got that off my chest, the first time I visited WDW in 1994 with my DH and two DDs (only had the two at the time!), we were there during "gay week". I wouldn't even have known if it weren't for my sister in law. She called and said, "OMG do you know it's gay week there now!!" Nope, didn't even realize. After she told us, I did notice two men walking and holding hands, no biggy.

You should be more worried about witnessing people being rude or grouchy! That's what I don't want to encounter!!

 

[garylpn]

dw and i were at wdw, staying at the poly in 96, didn't even know there was such a thing as gay days back then, it didn't make any difference to us, a little hand holding in mk was actually our only clue until we were able to read one of the shirts," a day of magic,a night of pleasure"
but i do agree things were a little more open at pleasure island that evening. but i'm also one who doesn't believe that underage persons should be on pleasure island after 9pm anyway, there's just something about seeing parents club hopping with minors in tow that doesn't quite feel right
so pi is the only place you might want to stay away from with the children, and since i understand the crowds have gotten considerably larger i would just stay away from the focus park each day, let's face it, 100,00 grandmas would crowd a park so it's just a numbers thing

 

[JLS]

I always have to shake my head when I read phrases like "I'm a tolerant person, BUT......" esp. when they are contained within a post entitled "first trip home a DISASTER."


Your trip will be fine. Just skip the MK on Saturday, as others have suggested, and you will probably never even know the difference.

 

[Doug Wolfe]

Chuck...I think you are right. They probably do value & respect all of their guests.

 

[Chuck S]

Originally posted by garylpn
let's face it, 100,000 grandmas would crowd a park so it's just a numbers thing

AWWWWWWWW! That mental picture sure filled me with warm fuzzies

 

[twinmomplus2new]

Lenshanen
We encountered the brazilian tour groups twice in July. And because of thier rotten behavior, I will never plan to be around them again,

As for gay days, Who cares? I just am a little shocked by this.

I agree with an other poster. My response is probably better suited for the debate board. So I will control myself and say nothing.

 

[Cris]

Disney is the only place in the world where people of all races, ages, creeds, religions, convictions, languages, sexual orientation, gender, and physical challenges can come together to have fun without worrying about the real world.

 

[Sammie]

Originally posted by Chuck S
I prefer to believe it is because they value and respect ALL of their guests.

To warn others would be to imply there is something wrong with them meeting at Disney World. This is a public park open to all who buy a ticket. Disney can not and will not remark on any groups attending. As others have said the other large groups, Pop Warner, Cheer and Dance Teams and Teenage Brazil tour groups dates have also been avoided due to the large number of people attending.

If you plan according the schedule you will be fine. The crowds would be my only concern.

 

[crisi]

I've been there over gay days and didn't even notice it. We NEVER do MK on Saturday anyway, and we aren't PI type people.

Now we DID notice the cheerleaders one Feburary, who my 3 year old son said were "very silly girls." We smiled and agreed - the three we were sharing the monorail with were particularly silly girls.

We've seen plenty of PDA at Disney from straights - including several "GET A ROOM!" situations - and a small amount of PDA - handholding and the like - from same sex couples.

 

[Rence]

One thing to keep in mind is that there are people who are very intolerant and have a strong anti-gay agenda. These folks will present a very distorted view of what gay days is like. The view of gay days that they present will be very slanted. They will take the worst photos that they can find and protray them as common place. Private events are protrayed as public events etc.

You have now heard from a number of people who have experienced gay days first hand and without fail they have said that it is no big deal.

capt1633 -- you said you did some research. Make sure you consider the source and did the source have an agenda. Then compare your reserach with the first hand experiences you have read about here.

 

[rocketriter]

I first joined this board in part because I thought the level of civility was higher than on many other boards on the Internet. By and large this discussion has proven me right.

The topic of this thread is a potential "hot button" that could have lit some very unpleasant flames. Instead most people gave the original poster advice that was both helpful and tolerant of American diversity.

My compliments to you all.

 

[disneycrazed139]

I agree wholeheartedly with rocketriter...a potententially disastrous thread seems to have been handled with so much tact and that is the really nice thing about this particular board. Obviously, on the debate board this would be a different animal!

Twotoohappy--thanks for those quotes!

 

[JudithM]

Originally posted by capt1633
... I am extremely upset with Disney and DVC that they did not inform me that this event was taking place during my stay. ...
What is my recourse? Any Suggestions?

I know this is not an official Disney function, but also know that they are very much aware of it and I feel they could atleast inform people of this event when they make ressies.

Looking forward to your feedback!

Disney is under no obligation to inform guests of any groups, organizations, etc. that will be at WDW when you make your reservations.

 

[rnnomore]

Great response Rocketriter. I agree with you 100%!!!

 

[MermaidsMom]

This thread is so interesting, there have been similar threads about Gay Days every year as long as I've been following the boards for WDW info. 5 years ago the tone of the responses was almost exactly the opposite as the tone today. People were very upset about the idea. It shows how the media has been able to influence peoples opinions in ways they aren't even aware of over the last few years. I am making absolutely NO JUDGEMENT here of right or wrong, I am just sitting back and observing something that is fascinating to me. I wonder what the opinions would be if the media had not broadcasted shows like Will & Grace (which I love), etc. We were there during this week last year and had no negative experiences whatsoever. The groups that seemed to be together were having such a great time and were in no way trying to influence others and had no "attitude" that was negative. I did smile a number of times when I saw the Mickey and Minnie wedding hats, though!