Need a Question Answered re: The Union Thing with Custodial Workers

[XXRAINMANX]

I can actually answer this one. So I worked for the Custodial department at DTD back in 2007. So for the sake of answering the question I'll break down how the system used to work at Downtown Disney. Yes, there is a big difference on job responsibilities and what you would want to do.

3 "areas of operation"
Westside
Pleasure Island
Market Place

Each area had 2-3 zones, and each zone was broken up by streets or bathrooms, and the occasional specialty locations like "World of Disney". For Example Westside streets in the zone from the then "Virgin Mega store" to Cirque was much easier if you worked streets versus bathrooms, Bathrooms were always busy especially between the 1st and second show for Cirque and the mens restrooms sometimes had issues with minor flooding due to all the urinals flushing at once. On the flip side streets in the market place were typically worse because of all the trash around Earl of Sandwich and Gardellis chocolate shop. The best job in my opinion was World of Disney, because the restrooms were worked on by someone else and all you had to do was sweep up broken glass and the occasional trash on the ground and empty the register trash at the end of the night. So with the new system the single person working in World of Disney would have to potentially respond to calls to clean that restroom inside of World of Disney or the tables around the stage opposite of World of Disney.

It's worth noting that a Beta system for this change was in place back in 2007 that didn't have GPS but instead was used to assist with inventory and what supplies were being used to stock the restrooms at what points in the day, and how long employees took to clean the restroom (working quickly was not the goal of the program, they were trying to determine if someone was actually cleaning them versus just going in stocking and leaving the mess for the 3rd shift to clean after guests left).

 

[writerguyfl]

That's kind of what I am wondering too. However, it seems the staff affected, or would be affected by this are primarily concerned with the loss of seniority and the privilege that comes with that as evidenced by their quiet protest of sending the pumpkin to MK president saying goodbye seniority or something similar.

Agreed. As with most labor issues, different people within the process might have different feelings regarding proposed changes. And, to make waters muddier, sometimes one side will claim an issue is far worse than it really is in order to retain power within the negotiation.

We can debate the issue all we want. But, the reality is that we are operating off of second or third-hand information.

 

[Madonna3]

We can debate the issue all we want. But, the reality is that we are operating off of second or third-hand information.

But, that's the fun of it

 

[ponyboy]

Hopper, honestly you need some perspective.

There's a difference between "hard work" and having your employer put a GPS tag on you that is tied in to an unqualified "manager" to look at on their corporate issue tablet to extract cost savings ...and that is what this is.

Even if the intention is noble...the reality is too big brother. I don't support any worker being tagged like an animal for stock gain. Life is too short.

If it's too "big brother" for your employer to know where you're at while you're working and they're paying you then maybe it's time for the janitors that don't like it to get another job or maybe start their own business where the only big brother looking over their shoulder is the government?

Seriously, whether the intention is noble or not, the employees work for Disney, not the other way around. The people writing the checks get to call the shots. That's why people strive to be the check writers and not the check receivers.

 

[Dashzap]

This is an excellent point that hadn't occurred to me. But, there are plenty of example of union leadership not really representing the actual concerns of the rank and file.

Example: While I worked at the Disney Reservations Center (DRC), we went through a campaign to unionize.

And then Disney outsourced a lot of the DRC, eliminating any pesky requirements of employees. I wonder what percentage of the DRC work is still within house...

 

[ponyboy]

And then Disney outsourced a lot of the DRC, eliminating any pesky requirements of employees. I wonder what percentage of the DRC work is still within house...

The problem with unions is that they like to act like the sole purpose of a business is to hire, employ and cater to employees. If I were Disney I'd do the same thing.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Woah...we got a genius perspective...finally...

 

[rteetz]

Just a friendly reminder to stay within the guidelines of the disboards for posting.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Just a friendly reminder to stay within the guidelines of the disboards for posting.

You mean no misinformed, political tinged nonsense?

Ok...got it