NBA at Walt Disney World

[Marthasor]

A big issue for me (other than Kyrie being the leader of this) is that there are varied and, in my opinion, very conflicting reasons for the pushback. I've tried to read what I can find on this, but it's really not clear if there's a MAIN reason for those who don't want go back. The statements attributed to Kryie don't help either because they either don't make sense (talking about only 20 guys in the league really get paid - he's 18th highest by the way - given the salaries of the top 40, 80, and averages, etc., this is just a bad message; it also makes it unclear if he now has an overall issue with CBA in general, player salaries, I mean, is he just anti-league/anti-ownership and leading a movement for that reason?).

I understand 2 of the 3 main issues players have, but they would all appear to be issues that would be mutually exclusive to those who have them and divide them into one of those 3 camps, not just a list for some players to have all of them:

I understand those who are concerned about wanting to go back to play given the current protests and civil rights movement, the optics involved, and the debate as to what's best for that. There's obviously quite a bit out there about this, and while I think giving the players a platform to speak on the issues since this will draw a lot of attention, I certainly cannot criticize those who believe not going back to just playing games hurts the movement.

Then there's a group apparently who are worried about starting back up right now as far as safety and health during the ongoing pandemic and whether it's safe and wise to do so. These are CERTAINLY legitimate concerns, and, especially given some of the pushback (and it's reasonable to question the logic) of the Disney employees that they will be around are not being tested or required to stay in the "bubble." They have the right to question the safety of going back to work, in a "job" that requires being exposed to a lot of other co-workers' bodily fluids. Being forced to return to work right now, either by employers or so someone can put food on the table and keep paying their bills, is a major issue. These players are in a financial position that they don't NEED to go back to work, so if they don't feel safe in doing so, they are right to at least be asking the questions related to that.

Then there are apparently those in this group who are on the other end of the spectrum and have a problem with the "restrictions" of being in the "bubble" and want more freedoms. While I can have some empathy for having to live in a hotel room for 5 weeks to 3 1/2 months, I don't have that much actual sympathy - that is what's necessary to make this happen in the safest way possible (see those concerned about safety) and this sentiment is selfish and does not show concern for everyone else involved.

The last group that kind of doesn't fall into any of these that I found intriguing, are those who are about to become free agents who are worried about injuries under the circumstances - there is greater injury risk going from months off to a short training period then into an intense playoff (or near-playoff) situation. Those players are looking to be insured against injury and its impact on their free agency. Certainly interesting and reasonable, but probably the most addressable of the concerns and one that could actually overlap with some of the others.

The problem with this in general is that it's not clear what kind of split there is between the players and to what degree they fall into each camp. There's just a lot to unwrap here and the "leader" of this movement just seems to be pushing back in general and saying there's opposition, but it's not clear what that opposition to going back to play under the circumstances really entails.

Yes, I think you're right. We are only getting info in dribs and drabs and calling Kyrie a leader of a movement may be misleading (obviously, this is how it appears as he is the one who got all the media attention) as we only really know his opinion and Dwight Howard's at the moment. On the insurance front, I believe it is 5 players from the 2017 draft class. We really have no clue where anyone else, specifically, stands on any of this (except Lebron) and, rightly so - I mean, they don't have to make everything public - it's a negotiation between NBPA and NBA and, it seems, individual players or small groups of players are forming to bring up issues that need to be resolved. Meanwhile, players outside of the US are supposed to be returning to home markets tomorrow (I believe) and I believe I read they plan on starting testing on June 23. So, it begs the question, when do all of these disparate yet very large issues get resolved? Is there a cut-off date when the NBPA must vote to finalize any negotiated plan? Obviously, I have no clue what is really going on behind the scenes, but it seems to be a race against the clock at this point?

 

[TomServo27]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1272254786268618752

 

[Krandor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1272734682300526593

 

[rteetz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273001954684305408

 

[rteetz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1272998550012678150

 

[rteetz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273011302349320192

 

[rteetz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273016409400868864

 

[adamreisinger]

Hotel assignments:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273017079357222912

 

[Dulcee]

The Floridian!?

 

[Sandiz08]

Hotel assignments:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273017079357222912

So three resorts it is, storm along bay will probably stay closed until nba leaves and yacht reopens.

 

[Krandor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273011302349320192

I knew mood rings would make a comeback one day.

 

[gottalovepluto]

So three resorts it is, storm along bay will probably stay closed until nba leaves and yacht reopens.

Looks like YC will be the first vacated.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273017658141704192

 

[sara_s]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273001954684305408

So what Covid test are they taking if not the "deep nasal swab" one? Also, I laughed because it reads like a threat. You wanna leave the bubble? Get ready for a deep nasal swab!

 

[rteetz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273021491844657153

 

[SaintsManiac]

This is all so exciting! Live sports!!!

 

[gottalovepluto]

So what Covid test are they taking if not the "deep nasal swab" one? Also, I laughed because it reads like a threat. You wanna leave the bubble? Get ready for a deep nasal swab!

There are ones that swab your nose without going deep into it now but I think they aren’t quite as good as the deep nasal swab tests.

 

[Krandor]

So what Covid test are they taking if not the "deep nasal swab" one? Also, I laughed because it reads like a threat. You wanna leave the bubble? Get ready for a deep nasal swab!

I saw something recently that the NBA is going to be helping test the saliva based tests.

So it sounds like they may be using multiple test types and partially to help prove how good or bad the saliva based tests are to help out the rest of us.

Here is one article on it. https://clutchpoints.com/nba-news-league-informs-teams-coronavirus-testing-plans/

 

[sara_s]

I saw something recently that the NBA is going to be helping test the saliva based tests.

So it sounds like they may be using multiple test types and partially to help prove how good or bad the saliva based tests are to help out the rest of us.

Here is one article on it. https://clutchpoints.com/nba-news-league-informs-teams-coronavirus-testing-plans/

Wow that would be nice! I had a flu swab done in February and thought THAT was bad. I'd like to avoid the Covid one at all costs.

 

[adamreisinger]

Looks like YC will be the first vacated.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273017658141704192

What'll be interesting to me is if one of those teams makes a surprise deep run, would the NBA leave them solo at Yacht Club or consolidate them to one of the other two resorts (also, we've had "Grand Destino" and "Gran Destiny" so far... any guesses on the next wrong name for this building?)

 

[Krandor]

Wow that would be nice! I had a flu swab done in February and thought THAT was bad. I'd like to avoid the Covid one at all costs.

Agreed and players who are getting tested daily already with the normal nasal swap are perfect people to also provide a saliva sample to run it on this new test to see how well it does. They are a perfect control group especially to find any false positive rates. It really is a great idea.