MyMagic+ test at Table Service restaurants later this month

[Rumors Rocks]

http://www.wdwmagic.com/other/mymag...rvice-restaurants-begins-later-this-month.htm

MyMagic+ 'Touch to Pay' lets guests charge to their Walt Disney World Resort room by simply touching a Key to the World RFID card or MagicBand. So far this has been restricted to payments made at fixed register locations, which includes shops, kiosks, and quick service restaurants.
Disney is about the begin testing mobile 'Touch to Pay' which will allow guests to make 'Touch to Pay' payments at Table Service restaurants and other mobile locations, such as boat rentals and other recreation activities. Beginning in the last week of May, Disney's Contemporary Resort will allow 'Touch to Pay' payments at the The Wave restaurant and at outdoor recreation locations. Guests will be able to touch their RFID Key to the World card (and later the MagicBand) to the Cast Members mobile device, enter a pin number, and complete the transaction.

As well as handling payments, the system allows servers to access any Disney Dining Plan information, which helps the server advise the guest on the dining entitlements that are available.

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[bcrook]

Honestly, I do not see how this touch to pay is any kind of perk at a TS restaurant.

What I would like to see - BUT HIGHLY DOUBT THIS WILL HAPPEN - is for all my discounts to be connected to my touch to pay devices. For example, I go to Marrakesh for lunch and my 20% DVC discount is automatically deducted. I never remember to ask for my DVC discount - and they count on that.

I bet I will always have to ask for that. Or a blanket 10% AP discount where ever that applies.

 

[doconeill]

Honestly, I do not see how this touch to pay is any kind of perk at a TS restaurant.

What I would like to see - BUT HIGHLY DOUBT THIS WILL HAPPEN - is for all my discounts to be connected to my touch to pay devices. For example, I go to Marrakesh for lunch and my 20% DVC discount is automatically deducted. I never remember to ask for my DVC discount - and they count on that.

I bet I will always have to ask for that. Or a blanket 10% AP discount where ever that applies.

I agree...I'd like to see automatic discounts applied - but I know it won't happen. Like how they say you need to save your original AP ticket media when converting to a MagicBand - to show for discounts. That could automatically be encoded, but it won't be. And they are hoping you won't carry around the card still.

 

[dadddio]

Honestly, I do not see how this touch to pay is any kind of perk at a TS restaurant.

You won't have to remove your magic band to pay. That may not fit your definition of 'perq', but it certainly is a convenience.

 

[AquaDame]

...How are we going to add/change tip then? Is that automatic too?

 

[DougEMG]

I still don't understand how a wrist band is going to get me to spend more money than charging something to a room key or credit card. Do people actually end up spending more because they can charge to a wrist band?

 

[doconeill]

...How are we going to add/change tip then? Is that automatic too?

I haven't seen it yet, but I'm going to guess that they bring a portable reader with a keypad (I'm assuming you need to still enter a PIN). That reader would allow you to also enter a tip...

I still don't understand how a wrist band is going to get me to spend more money than charging something to a room key or credit card. Do people actually end up spending more because they can charge to a wrist band?

It isn't just the wristband, although if they aren't making you sign for purchases, it could allow some to spend more by thinking less about the purchases...but check out some of the other threads with regards to what Iger and Rasulo said about how MyMagic+ will increase revenue...

 

[Cheshire Figment]

There is a computer technical term for all of this: Vaporware!

 

[doconeill]

There is a computer technical term for all of this: Vaporware!

Heh...and suddenly I'm reminded of Duke Nukem Forever - the standard by which all Vaporware is measured...but it would take 14 years for MM+ to take the title...

 

[DRDISNEYMD]

You won't have to remove your magic band to pay. That may not fit your definition of 'perq', but it certainly is a convenience.

~Yes!!! I totally agree with this. I can't wait for Magic Bands and FP+!

 

[CuteAsMinnie]

I haven't seen it yet, but I'm going to guess that they bring a portable reader with a keypad (I'm assuming you need to still enter a PIN). That reader would allow you to also enter a tip...



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My friend who owns her own hair salon has the thingy that you can plug into the iPhone where you can swipe a credit card. The client presses something to agree to the amount then presses the tip amount; 15% or 20% and it calculates and adds in the tip amount automatically. 'Other' is also a choice. Perhaps the geniuses at Disney will have something similar.

 

[CuteAsMinnie]

I still don't understand how a wrist band is going to get me to spend more money than charging something to a room key or credit card. Do people actually end up spending more because they can charge to a wrist band?

Hmmmmm...... No

 

[chartle]

You won't have to remove your magic band to pay. That may not fit your definition of 'perq', but it certainly is a convenience.

We were at a Pizza Uno outside DC and they had like a hefty tablet device on the table. We could request refills and order dessert without a server. We could also pay the bill with tip and it emailed me the receipt (of course now they have it). The server stopped by and thanked us more than usual since he just had a table of 16 sat and he didn't have to worry about dropping off the check, collecting the money, etc.

 

[chartle]

I still don't understand how a wrist band is going to get me to spend more money than charging something to a room key or credit card. Do people actually end up spending more because they can charge to a wrist band?

Maybe. There were studies done when people started to use cards instead of cash for purchases. They tended to spend more since they didn't see any money changing hands. Similar to when we have visited Canada. (Pre-apologising to our friends up north for the next comments. )

Last trip to Canada we didn't use a card since we had heard of exchange rate horror stories so used cash. Well what they call cash up north. It just didn't feel the same since I didn't give them any "money" just some odd looking coins (really a loonie ) and some monopoly money. (My wife even used that term when we were trading in our Canadian cash coming home. )

Not sure if the bands will have the same effect. Want to buy something just touch here and like magic its yours. Even though its exactly like using a credit card I'm sure someone has determined that not having to pull out a card from a wallet or purse increases sales by some small amount. For Disney even a tenth of a percent is what, 10s of millions of dollars.

Same for the wristband gift card for F&W. Make it easier to buy something and people will spend more.

 

[wiigirl]

You won't have to remove your magic band to pay. That may not fit your definition of 'perq', but it certainly is a convenience.

I like it!

 

[DizCaptain]

The wrist bands are meant to be a convenience. It's a lot easier to wave a band to pay, resulting in faster moving lines and more patience to use elsewhere. That's assuming the system works well, very well. Using this wave and pay system is a grand idea for merch and food service payments. Sure all the other integrated perks make it better too, but focusing on payment, that's what their aim is, convenience. I just hope they don't make every purchase necessitate entering a pin code, because that eliminates any convenience.

 

[chartle]

I like it!

Yes one thing I forgot to add to my post. I never hand a card to a server that is going to take it away. We ALWAYS use cash. Though if my CM niece gets us a really good deal this next trip we maybe on site and getting the DDP and maybe even Magic Bands(TM).

 

[Pirate princess 2]

Yes one thing I forgot to add to my post. I never hand a card to a server that is going to take it away. We ALWAYS use cash. Though if my CM niece gets us a really good deal this next trip we maybe on site and getting the DDP and maybe even Magic Bands(TM).

I like that you used the (TM).

I'm still not sure how I feel about the Magicbands. I like the idea of convenience, but still not sure. It sounds great to not have to keep pulling your card out all day long, or running from place to place for FP, even the paying option seems to be a plus. However, as someone who doesn't wear a watch because the feel of something around my wrist drives me crazy. I don't like having to wear this band all day. Hey, gotta do what ya gotta do.

 

[chartle]

I like that you used the (TM).

I'm still not sure how I feel about the Magicbands. I like the idea of convenience, but still not sure. It sounds great to not have to keep pulling your card out all day long, or running from place to place for FP, even the paying option seems to be a plus. However, as someone who doesn't wear a watch because the feel of something around my wrist drives me crazy. I don't like having to wear this band all day. Hey, gotta do what ya gotta do.

That wrist issue is brought up a lot, but one little issue is that it really hasn't been determined how FP+(TM) will work. Also having the the Magic Bands(TM) does not mean you have to use FP+ but maybe it does.

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[doconeill]

I just hope they don't make every purchase necessitate entering a pin code, because that eliminates any convenience.

The original plan was to limit PIN codes to purchases over $50...but then they suddenly required it for all purchases. There were varying reports about being and not being asked for PINs at all ends though too, and I have not heard what the latest is.

The problem is that with RFID, it is relatively easy to skim the ID off the device. If they didn't require PIN codes, then I could potentially skim you RFID by just getting close enough, then create a mimic card/band with the same ID for purchases and go on a spending spree. Even use your precious FP+!

That's why two-factor authentication is used a lot when trying to identify a person when one of them is RFID.

Now, they could drop the spending limit down...it would be nice not to have to give a pin for every little snack (and I could see that being in Disney's favor...make it REALLY easy to get those mickey bars and sales I'm sure will go up...), but require it for any merchandise, dining, etc., where the inconvenience of doing it really isn't that much incrementally.

Now, of course there are various aspects of this that make it difficult...there are in fact two passive RFID chips the magicbands (not sure on the cards...don't think so though), at different frequencies - if I was designing the system, I'd make them two different IDs, both keyed to the account, and both required - it makes it a little more difficult on the skimming side. I would NEVER use the active RFID in the band for anything like that - only for minimal ID purposes.

Also, of course guests would not be responsible for fraudulent charges - the problem is being able to identify them to challenge...for a family that might spend a couple thousand in the parks between food, merch, etc. spotting a $100 charge they know for a fact they didn't make can be difficult.