***MyMagic+ & FastPass+ Official Information & FAQ Thread***

[doconeill]

Yeah, I think that overlap is fraught with all sorts of problems.

Remember one thing....... they want......scratch that..... they NEED .......... this to be accepted with open arms and much excitement. So how much to you think they will "limit" the prebooking pool?

Well, if _I_ was doing it, I would limit the FP+ to a percentage based on the opt-in guest audience, for each time slot individually. I might even do +5% or so to make sure those using it see it as having availability, but knowing that even with opt-in not every single guest will utilize it at 100%.

I also would NOT take that percentage out of the FP pool that day, so that they can be used by either day-of, but FP+ is still capped at the percentage.

It becomes problematic as it approaches 100%, but when they get to the point that everyone is eligible, they'll just have to go cold turkey and no more opt-in.

 

[WillAustin]

Remember one thing....... they want......scratch that..... they NEED .......... this to be accepted with open arms and much excitement. So how much to you think they will "limit" the prebooking pool?

Also remember, no matter what they say, they will want to push guests into prebooking as much as possible based on the statements previously made by executives.

They want this to be seen as an advantage.

 

[mom2rtk]

Also remember, no matter what they say, they will want to push guests into prebooking as much as possible based on the statements previously made by executives.

They want this to be seen as an advantage.

They NEED this to be seen as an advantage.

With that in mind, at what point does everyone think they will turn off additional in-park FPs for test participants?

 

[d1gitman]

Obviously the people making these decisions have never actually been park guests. Our trips are always in the summer or around holidays since I'm a teacher. Trust me....standby lines are NOT an option. I can't believe that that's their answer to everything!

statements like this crack me up, because stand by lines certainly were the option for all guests pre-FP era. in the words of Spock "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"

 

[doggydoc]

They NEED this to be seen as an advantage.

With that in mind, at what point does everyone think they will turn off additional in-park FPs for test participants?

Pretty soon I would guess. The FAQ is obviously currently geared for testing as it mentions "if you are eligible" several places.

 

[d1gitman]

Well, if _I_ was doing it, I would limit the FP+ to a percentage based on the opt-in guest audience, for each time slot individually. I might even do +5% or so to make sure those using it see it as having availability, but knowing that even with opt-in not every single guest will utilize it at 100%.

I also would NOT take that percentage out of the FP pool that day, so that they can be used by either day-of, but FP+ is still capped at the percentage.

It becomes problematic as it approaches 100%, but when they get to the point that everyone is eligible, they'll just have to go cold turkey and no more opt-in.

my thought is that the FP will be a fixed amount, independent of FP+ with no interaction with FP+.

FP+ may also be working from a fixed amount with the flexibility only within that fixed amount. it may be that we have overthought this and FP+ is in a closed system much like FP is, the difference being unused FP+ stay in the system for availability. FP+ may not fluctuate with changes in park attendance, etc...

 

[d1gitman]

...at what point does everyone think they will turn off additional in-park FPs for test participants?

my guess is soon, like 3 mo? or maybe they go a full yr. to get a complete 12mo cycle in...but my gut tells me they turn off FP soon. I think they only reason they are keeping FP around is to have a plan B while they work out the kinks in FP+. it would be foolish to switch over to any new system without a back up plan.

 

[doconeill]

my thought is that the FP will be a fixed amount, independent of FP+ with no interaction with FP+.

FP+ may also be working from a fixed amount with the flexibility only within that fixed amount. it may be that we have overthought this and FP+ is in a closed system much like FP is, the difference being unused FP+ stay in the system for availability. FP+ may not fluctuate with changes in park attendance, etc...

Then they need to reduce the FP pool by the same amount as they give to the FP+ pool. They either do that regardless of FP+ utilization (the easy way), and possibly end up with underutilization of FP overall and guests upset because they ran out too fast still, or try and do it on a day-by-day basis based on FP+ utilization, which gets pretty complicated.

 

[doggydoc]

Ok so I bravely followed the link "reserve access to FastPass+ attractions and entertainment" After a couple 404 errors and having to enter my login and password twice I was taken to a screen that showed the next five calendar days in squares that stated "Your party is not eligible for FP+ on this day". It had a bar above for advancing the date. I assume this means you will be able to book FP+ for your entire stay.

Unfortunately there was a popup blocking me that said:

"We're sorry. We were unable to fully complete your request due to system challenges. If you continue to experience this problem, please visit the MyDisneyExperience Help Center, otherwise please try your request again later."

so I couldn't go farther. Not that I want to, FP+ is not for me.

 

[jaz0308]

I spoke at length to a CM over the phone who called me to discuss a lengthy email I sent to guest services detailing my many concerns with FP+. The main thing he seemed to stress was that they WANT feedback from guests. If you have a concern, DON'T WAIT until the program rolls out. email them with it NOW.

AND, the WHOLE POINT of FP+ is to make standby lines more manageable and shorter. he specifically said that they spent all that money to make interactive queues for a reason. They expect guests to ride standby.

Would you mind telling me what email address you used? I would like to share my thoughts with Disney if they are really interested in the opinions of guests. Thanks

 

[beer dave]

I think the whole thing will be great-- who wants to be at rope drop to run for a fp or to ride the attractions that get mobbed? who wants to have to get their kids up and rush them to get ready when on vacation? All you have to do is be able to select a park for a day, or even an afternoon, ahead of time. people can make ADR;s, so get a couple fpp's for before or after your adr, tour the parks as you normally would at your leisure, be at the park with your ADR as you usually would, and get a few quick ride attractions at the same time. Then go to your resort and relax.


And I have been asking on several threads if any one can show any evidence that fpp will be available to off site guests-- I don't think you can do anything on MDE without first inputting a stay...

 

[mom2rtk]

who wants to be at rope drop to run for a fp or to ride the attractions that get mobbed? who wants to have to get their kids up and rush them to get ready when on vacation?

Who wants to pay $95 to walk in the gate and do 3 attractions.........

 

[SRUAlmn]

statements like this crack me up, because stand by lines certainly were the option for all guests pre-FP era. in the words of Spock "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"

Glad I could entertain you...

 

[Robo]

who wants to be at rope drop to run for a fp or to ride the attractions that get mobbed? who wants to have to get their kids up and rush them to get ready when on vacation?

Nobody WANTS to.
That's why it's a major plus, if you make the effort.

 

[WillAustin]

Who wants to pay $95 to walk in the gate and do 3 attractions.........

That's the key. On every single one of our previous trips, we've been able to ride everything we want using FPs to avoid waiting in long lines. If that changes because of the new system, and we'd have to spend more time in longer lines, we will choose something else to do.

Speaking only for myself, I don't spend thousands of dollars on a WDW vacation to end up waiting in a 40, 60, or 90 minute line for anything, ever. I guess some people find that OK, but we don't. After our trip next month, I'm leaning toward holding off on booking anything else until we see how this shakes out in the parks over the next 6 months.

 

[HollyJoy]

And I don't see how they can reserve a large enough space for parade FP+s to accommodate everyone in the front, which is where they will want to be - I think you will find that people with parade FP+ will still claim their curbs early and wait, especially if they realize that the space is limited.

This is why I'll never use FP+ for a parade. Even though we love parades. If I'm going to see it, I want to be in front. Even if it means claiming my spot 90 minutes or longer in advance. So I won't take a chance on FP+ since I could still end up behind someone.

I didn't even know you could use fp for a parade! What!? Craziness!

 

[mom2rtk]

Speaking only for myself, I don't spend thousands of dollars on a WDW vacation to end up waiting in a 40, 60, or 90 minute line for anything, ever. I guess some people find that OK, but we don't. After our trip next month, I'm leaning toward holding off on booking anything else until we see how this shakes out in the parks over the next 6 months.

If I don't feel I'm getting value for what I spend, I won't be doing it. Period. No matter how sad that makes me.

And yes, I know the standby line is there. But I won't wait in any line over about 30 minutes.

And I'm really confused about how they expect the standby line to go down. Every indication since FP time enforcement is that they have been adding more FP slots into the mix. I just don't see how that translates into shorter FP lines unless they change course. Or maybe they figure the "one FP per attraction" limit will reduce overall usage. But how do they think that translates into greater guest satisfaction?

 

[beer dave]

Who wants to pay $95 to walk in the gate and do 3 attractions.........

No one said you would do 3 attractions. If they limit to 3,(which I don't think they will due to all the increases and categories) you will still be able to get on the rides using standby. we all know the attractions that don't have lines typically.

Anything we have seen so far is testing-- already I believe it as been reported that MDE now says about 4 depending on your "package" , and this is still testing.

As far as $95-- It seems they are gearing all of this towards resort guests, so the entry cost would be a lot less due to length of stay tickets.

I think this will end up to be you get what you pay for.

 

[beer dave]

Nobody WANTS to.
That's why it's a major plus, if you make the effort.

I agree, and have definitely done it in the past-- but I am thinking of the benefit of not having to.

 

[DreamSweetsLove]

I actually prefer that they DON'T implement a +10 option - we have found ourselves getting shutting out of DVC room reservations since they went to +10 (or maybe it's +7 I forget). Either way, people with lots of points have resorted to 'walking' their reservations for this reason - starting their reservations ahead of when they need them and then adding on and cancelling the unneeded days in order to assure they can get the room/date they want. I can see this becoming a practice for AP holders if they go to +10 for FP+.

This is something I was wondering about too. They have already said there is no penalty but even limiting the number of FP+ what is preventing AP's from doing this and canceling. Although for now it looks like room and ticket booking must be linked for it to work, not great for AP's right now.

And I have been asking on several threads if any one can show any evidence that fpp will be available to off site guests-- I don't think you can do anything on MDE without first inputting a stay...

This is my concern right now. As glitchy as the new website is the one interesting point was that you could link family and friends and plan your vacation together. If you are not buying your tickets at the same time or your friends are staying offsite though you basically can't book FP+ together right? So the one interesting point of the website is also useless. If it were possible they should make it that one main person of the account can register the FP+ for everyone and link the tickets day of... With FP you could always meet your party in the morning and get FP together.


This will for sure impact our trip this year since we are meeting with family in FL. Some of us staying onsite some not, some with AP's, some getting tickets day of, some buying in advance. I'm thinking I need to delete the people I've added to the website so it doesn't affect the FP+ booking.