***MyMagic+ & FastPass+ Official Information & FAQ Thread***

[Lisa P.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H0QLWgoxyg

Here is an interesting news interview about magic bands

How cool! Did you catch the part where he said Disney could enable a selected doll in Small World to pop up and say "Happy Birthday, Jack"??? It would use RFID technology similarly to how it enables the "Talking Mickey" to note a guests' name and specific info advance programmed through DME. Okay, I'm impressed.

 

[rastuso]

If you aren't going to purchase annual passes, or any other type of ticket, before you arrive, then the way it appears now you will not be able to pre-book any attractions until you get that ticket.

If you _order_ your tickets ahead of time, even for will-call pickup, you should be able to. You should get a receipt for will-call pickup that will have a code to register (from what I saw on the site).

This is what is pretty scary about this whole FP+ "upgrade".

What about folks sitting on non-expiring tickets? It seems that EVERYONE who is will basically get royally hosed on their next visit, since they won't be able to get any 60 day advanced FP+, since they won't be in the system. That will cause an enormous backlash. Essentially, it massively devalues any existing non-expiring tickets. Our whole WDW trip would be nearly worthless if we didn't get to preschedule 3 FP+, and only got to choose dregs once we arrived.

Same for day of buyers, but at least they know what they are getting into. I'm surprised Disney hasn't said anything about existing non-expiring ticket holders. I'd assume there are a lot of us.

Jason

 

[doconeill]

This is what is pretty scary about this whole FP+ "upgrade".

What about folks sitting on non-expiring tickets? It seems that EVERYONE who is will basically get royally hosed on their next visit, since they won't be able to get any 60 day advanced FP+, since they won't be in the system. That will cause an enormous backlash. Essentially, it massively devalues any existing non-expiring tickets. Our whole WDW trip would be nearly worthless if we didn't get to preschedule 3 FP+, and only got to choose dregs once we arrived.

I'm not sure why you are seeing a problem.

If they are "sitting on" tickets, they have them. If they have them, they can register them. et voila...if and when the system allows, they can use FP+.

Same for day of buyers, but at least they know what they are getting into.

Different issue, and I think this will prompt more advanced direct sales from Disney. Get their money sooner.

 

[rastuso]

I'm not sure why you are seeing a problem.

If they are "sitting on" tickets, they have them. If they have them, they can register them. et voila...if and when the system allows, they can use FP+.

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That's a pretty big if, and something not ever mentioned. And it wouldn't surprise me if Disney says "FP+ didn't exist when you purchased those, so we don't have to let you register them in advance". They do nothing without a lot of thought, and I don't think it's a coincidence that this issue hasn't been mentioned at all.

I hope I'm wrong.

Jason

 

[doconeill]

That's a pretty big if, and something not ever mentioned. And it wouldn't surprise me if Disney says "FP+ didn't exist when you purchased those, so we don't have to let you register them in advance". They do nothing without a lot of thought, and I don't think it's a coincidence that this issue hasn't been mentioned at all.

I hope I'm wrong.

Jason

I think you are mistaken...I'm not sure what you are expecting them to mention, and they aren't going to mention an issue that doesn't exist.

The IF I'm referring to is allowing guests outside of the tests, with independent tickets, to use Fastpass+. That is very, very likely going to happen.

Disney has said that use of FP+ is tied to your ticket. They didn't say, "Only if you purchase a ticket from us", or "Only if you purchased it after XX/XX/XX". There is zero reason I think at this point to believe that they are going to explicitly exclude No Expiration ticket holders, whether they are partially used or not. What I DO expect is that you will be permitted to book FP+ for a day per park day remaining on the ticket. So if you've got 5 days left, you can pre-book FP+ for 5 days, and that's it.

 

[vacationer1954]

When they started FP we were able to get them with tickets we bought before FP started.

 

[rastuso]

When they started FP, you could get them for ANY Disney admission media with strips, even ones that were expired. No THAT was a loophole to exploit.

The question isn't if they will let you get FP+ with old media. I'm sure once I get to WDW, they will hook me up just fine. The "if" is when can you do that. Can you call in 2 months ahead and give them the number off your ticket, and get that transferred to a Magic Band, so you can schedule FP+s. That is what I don't think you'll be able to do. There is no way to get a biometric reading to match over the phone. They can't control that, so they likely won't do it.

This will be a huge lowering of value of non-expired tickets.

Jason

 

[doconeill]

When they started FP, you could get them for ANY Disney admission media with strips, even ones that were expired. No THAT was a loophole to exploit.

The question isn't if they will let you get FP+ with old media. I'm sure once I get to WDW, they will hook me up just fine. The "if" is when can you do that. Can you call in 2 months ahead and give them the number off your ticket, and get that transferred to a Magic Band, so you can schedule FP+s. That is what I don't think you'll be able to do. There is no way to get a biometric reading to match over the phone. They can't control that, so they likely won't do it.

This will be a huge lowering of value of non-expired tickets.

Jason

They don't have to get biometrics over the phone. They already HAVE them. They aren't on your ticket, they are in the database, with the entitlements. The only thing on your ticket is a ticket ID. It's actually much the same as the RFID stuff, except it is read magnetically.

They can EASILY associate the biometrics internally to the profile when the ticket ID is entered online. If they choose to do so. The other option is to drop the biometrics and re-code on next entrance. Might make for a very short-lived used ticket market, but it would be the last one...

 

[dayvewc]

That's a pretty big if, and something not ever mentioned. And it wouldn't surprise me if Disney says "FP+ didn't exist when you purchased those, so we don't have to let you register them in advance". They do nothing without a lot of thought, and I don't think it's a coincidence that this issue hasn't been mentioned at all.

I hope I'm wrong.

Jason

I am pretty sure you are wrong. I have a NE ticket, and while playing with the mobile MDE the other day linked my ticket to my account. Since I'm not a member of the current testing, I don't have access to the FP+ scheduling, but the ticket is there and linked. Which is what was required to be able to pre-book FP+. I think you are making an issue out of something that doesn't exist.

Unless you happen to have one of those rare tickets from the 1980's that is pre-magnetic strip.

 

[rastuso]

That's very good to know, and quite surprising that its already active. I agree that means the rollout is pretty close. I need to get all mine in. I like to get. All cards of any kind registered, so I can't lose them. I just wish I could use all the days before this abysmal system kicks in.

I got rid of my last stamp ticket a few trips ago!

Jason

 

[doconeill]

That's very good to know, and quite surprising that its already active. I agree that means the rollout is pretty close. I need to get all mine in. I like to get. All cards of any kind registered, so I can't lose them. I just wish I could use all the days before this abysmal system kicks in.

I got rid of my last stamp ticket a few trips ago!

Jason

I don't recommend doing it yet, until you have the option to utilize FP/MagicBands. Feedback indicates that if you then need to use them before MagicBands are available, your existing physical ticket may be invalid and you'l have to stop at Guest Relations to get them re-issued.

 

[meaneyka]

Is there a reputable source for this business about only one pass per ride tier? That would severely hamper My Disney Experience at the parks!

It also seems weird they would do something so damaging to park hopping since they push it so much...

Matt

If this is true re 1 pass per tier type, then regular FP is better I think - also I believe both FP and FP+ will be available anyway , since FP+ is only avail to on site guests, so on site guests could chose

 

[doconeill]

If this is true re 1 pass per tier type, then regular FP is better I think - also I believe both FP and FP+ will be available anyway , since FP+ is only avail to on site guests, so on site guests could chose

There is nothing currently to indicate it will only be available to resort guests. The current test is for resort guests, and a limited selection at that. All the information available says that this will be available to everyone eventually, just like regular FP...at that eventually regular FP will go away once FP+ is available to everyone.

Also, the tiered system seems to be on the way out...the current test is not tiering the attractions at all.

 

[dayvewc]

I don't recommend doing it yet, until you have the option to utilize FP/MagicBands. Feedback indicates that if you then need to use them before MagicBands are available, your existing physical ticket may be invalid and you'l have to stop at Guest Relations to get them re-issued.

I am hoping that this will not cause a problem. My trip is planned at the end of July (leaving in 30 days - ) As much as I kind of want to try out the MagicBands, I will be completely happy this trip using the last days on my NE ticket like old times. I know GR can reissue it, that is just one hassle I'd rather not have to deal with.

 

[disneynanacat]

Has anyone tried attaching their mnsshp tickets yet? Just curious.

 

[doconeill]

Has anyone tried attaching their mnsshp tickets yet? Just curious.

From what I hear "hard ticket" events are still being kept separate for now.

 

[erionm]

I don't recommend doing it yet, until you have the option to utilize FP/MagicBands. Feedback indicates that if you then need to use them before MagicBands are available, your existing physical ticket may be invalid and you'l have to stop at Guest Relations to get them re-issued.

The FAQ in the MDE app seems to indicate that the physical ticket should still be valid.

Q. I linked my ticket to My Disney Experience. How do I use it?
A. Once your ticket has been linked to My Disney Experience, and you have assigned the ticket to yourself, all you have to do is go to the theme park, touch your MagicBand or admission card to the touch point at the Main Entrance and enjoy your visit! If you don't have a MagicBand or card, you can still use your original ticket.

 

[doconeill]

The FAQ in the MDE app seems to indicate that the physical ticket should still be valid.

That's new info..thanks. Still, I wouldn't risk it until there is some value linking the tickets.

 

[rastuso]

From what I hear "hard ticket" events are still being kept separate for now.

I hope and pray MNSSHP remains FP/FP+ free.

Of course, they could start charging full day admission price for it then, since you'll EASILY get more E-ticket rides during it, perhaps double and triple, the 3 (if you're lucky) you'll be relegated to for normal days AFP (After Fass Pass - I just coined that, give me credit!).

Jason

 

[mom2rtk]

I hope and pray MNSSHP remains FP/FP+ free.

Of course, they could start charging full day admission price for it then, since you'll EASILY get more E-ticket rides during it, perhaps double and triple, the 3 (if you're lucky) you'll be relegated to for normal days AFP (After Fass Pass - I just coined that, give me credit!).

Jason

I agree. We typically travel during party season and I am holding out hard ticket parties as my go-to back-up plan if ride access is really diminished with FP+. I could see myself doing a trip where I schedule only hard ticket parties, with days at US and SW thrown in between.