My, What an Interesting Carpet Bag~A Dec. 2013 TR!*Remember Me?!*PTR for May 2015 Link, pg 23!*

[Sam33]

I have been lurking along with this TR and thought I'd let you know that I was at Boma a couple days ago and they had the goat cheese scrambled eggs!

 

[407-W-DISNEY]

Thanks for the update!
Thats a great picture of you and Brandon..and yes, very pretty bow!
Ugh..sorry about your heel pain..I hope its gets better...
I try to stall leaving as much and as often as possible!
Hope you do a PTR for September! Love all your reports!

 

[JulieODC]

I have to agree about TT -- we missed the original!

Looks like a beautiful night at Epcot -- between the Christmas décor and Illuminations.

Great photo of the lit-up walkway!! That's a hard photo to get!

Sorry about your foot pain....that can totally put a damper on things.

 

[teekathepony]

Great update! Love the photos around Epcot.
Aww I'm sorry Brandon hated the refurb on TT. I really like it. I might be in a minority though, I think most people preferred it pre-refurb.
Rose and Crown sounds nice!
Oh man, so sorry to hear about your feet I had a breakdown like that once too, same reason. It's not fun! You need your feet in Disney!
Wait... they changed the Pre-IllumiNations music? Um, no. I'm not ok with that. I also have it on every one of my playlists.

I love Wishes at MK, I do. It might even be my favorite nighttime show at Disney. But there is something about Illuminations that I'm crazy about. The music is just perfection. It's so emotional, I don't think I've ever watched this show and not cried.

THIS! Sums it up perfectly!

Love your window at Pop!

 

[Dugette]

Great update. Love all the Epcot pictures! And I just so happened to be eating fish and chips for lunch (leftover from a meeting at work) while reading this update, so how perfect! Hope your feet feel better next trip. If only the Peoplemover moved people throughout all the parks, so you didn't have to worry about foot pain...

 

[Nermel9]

Great update!

Thanks!!

Ya know, I still haven't ridden on Test Track since it changed, so I don't know about the changes besides what I've read on here of course, but the outside part was always my favorite anyway. I feel like I won't really care. We'll see! Haha

Wait, is the music a permanent change? I haven't heard the pre-show music since 2012 but ugh, that would be sad.

I wonder what would happen if you just hid somewhere in Epcot after it closed. Would they notice? I'm thinking yes, hahah, but it's be funny.

Yeah the outside part is my favorite too. I don't really care either, I prefer the old version, this new version is just lame. It doesn't make sense to me. But I can deal with it, Brandon absolutely hates it. He's so weird.

I don't know!!! I hope not! I hope they go back to my old music, they can't just change things around like that with no warning!!!

Haha I'm guessing they would...I've heard you can hang out pretty late after the parks close though. I've never really tested it out because I get nervous about getting kicked out, but someday I'd like to try it!

We don't like the new Test Track either. Actually, DD 11 doesn't even want to ride it on our next trip. She says they ruined it and she doesn't care if she ever rides it again. I also think they ruined it, but I would still ride for the outside part, as long as I didn't have to wait long.

I love your nighttime pictures! Seeing all the holiday decorations make me a little more excited for our upcoming December trip!

I agree, I don't like the new version either, but I'll still ride because the outside part is so much fun!

Thank you! December is such a fun time to go to Disney!

This is such a perfect picture! Love it!

Too bad you guys didn't love TT. I really liked the refurb. I just love how its all dark and day-glowy inside.

I think its great that you had an impromptu meal at the R&C. I really need to try the Scotch Egg. I've heard they are delish. I've never sat at the bar there and it's on my bucket list.

If your heels hurt than you may very well have plantar fasciitis. Do you feet hurt first thing in the morning and feel a little better as you stretch them out? I have bad plantar fasciitis and I remember one night (on a girls trip ) where I literally had to leave Epcot before EMH because my feet hurt that bad. Now I use inserts in ALL my shoes and get flip flops with an arch. It's made a huge difference.

Cute room decorations.

Thanks!

I like the lights inside TT, I just hate how there's no theme. I know they say there is, but I just don't get it, I guess. But I do love the actual ride so I'll keep going on it! I don't care that much, because TT was never one of my favorites...now Soarin' or ToT...if they drastically change one of those, I will freak out!!!

I love that you can sit at the bar at R&C, and we lucked out with finding a table, because it was packed in there!

My heels don't hurt at all in the morning! They hurt after I've been walking for a while, or standing for a long period of time. I really just think it's my weight, because sadly, this is the highest weight I've ever been and I just started noticing the problem in Disney. I'm trying to lose weight by September, not only for Disney, for a wedding I have to go to, so if the pain doesn't go away, I'll have to get it checked out. I also need better shoes I think, my Merrels are awful, they are SO hard on the bottom! When I bought them I thought "Ok, they're hard, but maybe that means there is a lot of support?" I think I need really soft shoes, I don't know!!! I just need to not have heel pain!!!

 

[Nermel9]

Great update! I'm with Brandon, I absolutely hate the changes they made to Test Track... I agree, a few updates would have been fine but if it's not broke... Don't fix it!

I had to look up Scotch egg! looks intriguing! I'm going to the UK in a couple weeks (my sister lives in England) and I might just have to try one!

Aww, so sorry to hear about your heel pain! That's no fun at all, especially when you're at Disney ! I had major issues with plantar fasciitis last year, I think I had overdone it with my running or something? Who knows but it was absolutely horrendous, so Brandon may be on to something there I hate to say.

Love your pictures of exiting Epcot. And Disney water?! pure heaven!!!

Ugh, last days... But at least you had the Christmas party!!! looking forward to more!

Yeah I'm not a fan of the new TT, but as long as the ride is the same, I can deal with it I guess! Brandon really hated it though, haha!

LOL see I don't think a scotch egg sounds good at all, but I don't like hard boiled eggs! I guess if you like them, then an egg wrapped in sausage sounds awesome! Not for me!

I don't know what's wrong with my heels, I'm hoping once I lose some weight it will go away! It's never been a problem before! It just really slowed me down on this trip, usually I can just suck it up and go, but there were times I had to stop and just sit, like in China. We sat for a decent amount of time because I didn't want to walk! Hopefully I'll get it figured out before September!

Disney water is the best!!!

The last day in Disney is always so sad, but at least there were still fun things to look forward to!

I'm not a huge fan of the new test track either! I felt like the whole Crash Test thing was much better than this!

We did the Illuminations cruise in Decemeber so I don't remember if we heard the pre-Illuminations music. Maybe it was just changed for the holidays?

Very Pretty pictures!

I plan to lose weight before my October trip too. I've lost a little bit for my May trip but not as much as I would have liked!

I've bought my husband and I both really good shoes for our next trip so I am hoping our feet appreciate them!

It was much better! Even if it was a little outdated haha!

I hope it was just changed for the holidays, the pre-Illuminations music is probably my favorite Disney music in the world!

Thank you!

Yeah I really have to get going with losing weight...I was doing good in the beginning of the week, but then I got sidetracked and started doing bad again.

I'm already looking for good walking shoes for September! I almost bought a pair today but I couldn't decide if I really loved them, so I didn't. I'm so indecisive haha!

Great update

I'm reluctant to try TT in October. Excited, but also from hearing how different it us makes me iffy on it LoL

Boo to change in the pre illuminations music

Glad you have figured out the shoes were not helping your heels. Hope you can find new ones that do! ( let me know too, when you figure it out!)

Thanks!

TT is still fun, but the theme is just weird. You should definitely go on it to try it, you might end up loving it! The lights inside are really nice!


Yeah...boo...I can't believe they would do that to me!

I will! I'm already on the hunt for new shoes! I'm looking for really comfy walking shoes!

They changed the pre-IllumiNations music?!?! What?!

I'm like you, I used to listen to it all the time. Honestly, whenever I'm opening up my Disney music, it's my go-to first choice to play.

This news makes me very sad...

That holiday tag at the end of IllumiNations is the best. The first time I ever saw IllumiNations, it had that, so I almost expect during every showing.

Sorry to hear that your heels were bothering you on that trip. Disney is all walking, so whenever you have foot pain, it can be such a bother. There's no getting around it. Hopefully, in September, your feet will cooperate!

I think a lot of people hate the new Test Track. I know I'm not a fan.

YES!!! It's awful! I mean, I didn't give it a fair chance because I was practically in tears once I realized it was different, but how could they do such a thing??? It's always been my go-to Disney music! In fact...I might put it on right now, even though I might end up crying haha!

I really love the holiday ending of Illuminations! The fireworks are crazy! I wish they would just leave it in all year, but I guess that wouldn't make sense haha!

I hope! I think losing weight will help a lot, because when I was smaller, it wasn't an issue. Ugh. I really have to get myself on track.

I don't really like the new TT, but at least the ride part is still fun!

 

[Nermel9]

I'm so sad they changed the Illuminations preshow music. I literally just listened to that yesterday! That is terrible news!

Your pictures are beautiful and I'm glad to see someone who enjoys those darn fish and chips as much as DH and I do!

Me too!!! I'm listening to it now, and it instantly transports me back to the World Showcase! How could they change it??

Thank you! Haha yeah, we love those fish and chips, yum!

Seriously Jen, is there anything better than an Epcot monorail pic? It just begs to be photographed. As does the Christmas tree.

Hahaha, that made me laugh. You want a picture too? Brandon, "No".

Give new Test Track some time. I bet after a few whirls you'll only dislike it rather than hate it. It is growing on me I have to admit.

Free booze? Nice!

While Wishes is my everything, I really do love Illuminations too. The part where the music slows and the BIG fireworks accompany it gets me ever time. And that holiday finale!!! Yowza!

Ah boo to last Disney day, but Christmas Party??? Not a bad way to end. The December 3 party was crawling with DISers too if I recall.

Haha, nope, nothing better than the monorail, wherever it is!

Haha, yeah, Brandon's not really interested in pictures, I basically have to force him. Although he does like taking pictures with characters lol!

Maybe! I mean, I don't hate it exactly, I just like the old version better. At least the actual ride is still fun!

YES I feel the same way about Wishes and Illuminations!!! Wishes is pure Disney, but Illuminations is just perfect and emotional. I think I like them equally, I always feel like I need a favorite, but whatever, I can have 2 favorites!

It was! I didn't see any of them either, lol! So much fun!!

I have been lurking along with this TR and thought I'd let you know that I was at Boma a couple days ago and they had the goat cheese scrambled eggs!

Oh, thanks! I remember you from a few years ago, I followed one of your PTR'S! I can't believe we missed the goat cheese scrambled eggs, that's lame!

Thanks for the update!
Thats a great picture of you and Brandon..and yes, very pretty bow!
Ugh..sorry about your heel pain..I hope its gets better...
I try to stall leaving as much and as often as possible!
Hope you do a PTR for September! Love all your reports!

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Aww, thanks! I just like it for my bow!

Thanks, me too!

Yep...I never want to leave a Disney park, especially my favorite!

I will if I can think of enough to update it with! Thank you so much!!

 

[Nermel9]

I have to agree about TT -- we missed the original!

Looks like a beautiful night at Epcot -- between the Christmas décor and Illuminations.

Great photo of the lit-up walkway!! That's a hard photo to get!

Sorry about your foot pain....that can totally put a damper on things.

Yeah, I miss the original TT! Still a fun ride though!

It was a great night at Epcot, I love the Christmas stuff there!

Thanks! I thought it was good when I took it but now that I look at it, I realize it's a little blurry! Just have to keep trying!

Thanks! Yeah it was pretty awful, hopefully it will be better by September!

Great update! Love the photos around Epcot.
Aww I'm sorry Brandon hated the refurb on TT. I really like it. I might be in a minority though, I think most people preferred it pre-refurb.
Rose and Crown sounds nice!
Oh man, so sorry to hear about your feet I had a breakdown like that once too, same reason. It's not fun! You need your feet in Disney!
Wait... they changed the Pre-IllumiNations music? Um, no. I'm not ok with that. I also have it on every one of my playlists.

THIS! Sums it up perfectly!

Love your window at Pop!

Thanks!

Haha, yeah I definitely think you are in the minority with TT! I mean, I don't hate it, I just prefer the old version!

Haha, yeah, you DO need your feet in Disney! It was pretty awful, I tried everything to make my feet not hurt, but nothing worked! I really have to figure it out before September!

Thanks! I love decorating windows!!

Great update. Love all the Epcot pictures! And I just so happened to be eating fish and chips for lunch (leftover from a meeting at work) while reading this update, so how perfect! Hope your feet feel better next trip. If only the Peoplemover moved people throughout all the parks, so you didn't have to worry about foot pain...

Thanks! Haha, oh nice, I love fish and chips! I wish I could find some good fish and chips around here, but nothing is as good as Epcot's...or England lol!

I HOPE my feet get better by the next trip, since it's twice as long! Ahh a Peoplemover in every park would be awesome!!

 

[klacey1]

Aww, I'm sorry Brandon hated the new TT! (Especially after you guys killed so much time before riding it!) I actually love it, but in pretty sure I'm in the minority.
Gah, I hate leaving Epcot too! I think being in the World Showcase at night might be my happiest time/place in the world!

 

[Nermel9]

Aww, I'm sorry Brandon hated the new TT! (Especially after you guys killed so much time before riding it!) I actually love it, but in pretty sure I'm in the minority.
Gah, I hate leaving Epcot too! I think being in the World Showcase at night might be my happiest time/place in the world!

Haha, it's ok! He still likes the ride, but he really hated the theme! I didn't think he'd like it, but I didn't expect him to hate it!

Leaving Epcot is the worst, and your right, there's nothing better than the World Showcase at night!

 

[KatMark]

Fun update, Jen (I got behind because of my husband's surgery and Easter).

I never thought to go into the Rose & Crown Pub and order food there. The next time we don't have a reservation that is what we will try.

I'm with Brandon...HATE the new Test Track and we are not even doing it in May/June on our girls trip or in September.

I'm sorry your heels were giving you such a bad time. Did you ever figure out what it was?

We didn't stay for Illuminations in December (even though they had a special area for the CP Package holders). We did watch it from the Boardwalk (as you know it's my least favorite show), and we were able to see a lot of the fireworks from there and it worked perfectly as we had a bench all to ourselves with no one around us.

In looking at your ticker, I think we miss you in September. We are there the 19th until the 26th and are avoiding Epcot on the weekend since that is when F&W starts. We have never done F&W and plan to do it on one of the weekdays when we can avoid the crowds.

And you are right...nothing beats Disney popcorn.

 

[Nermel9]

Fun update, Jen (I got behind because of my husband's surgery and Easter).

I never thought to go into the Rose & Crown Pub and order food there. The next time we don't have a reservation that is what we will try.

I'm with Brandon...HATE the new Test Track and we are not even doing it in May/June on our girls trip or in September.

I'm sorry your heels were giving you such a bad time. Did you ever figure out what it was?

We didn't stay for Illuminations in December (even though they had a special area for the CP Package holders). We did watch it from the Boardwalk (as you know it's my least favorite show), and we were able to see a lot of the fireworks from there and it worked perfectly as we had a bench all to ourselves with no one around us.

In looking at your ticker, I think we miss you in September. We are there the 19th until the 26th and are avoiding Epcot on the weekend since that is when F&W starts. We have never done F&W and plan to do it on one of the weekdays when we can avoid the crowds.

And you are right...nothing beats Disney popcorn.

Thanks! That's ok, I'm very behind on TR's and PTR's too! Whenever I think I have a chance to sit and read and comment, something comes up!

Yeah it's nice that you can go into the pub to get food without an ADR! There aren't too many tables, but I'm sure you can just wait for people to leave if you really wanted one!

Haha, yeah, I'm not sure I'll even bother with TT in September, although, it's not like they will let me get 2 FP's for Soarin', which is what I'd rather do so who knows?

I have no idea, I'm guessing it's because I'm overweight. Because my feet always ache from a Disney trip, but it doesn't really start until about halfway through. This started immediately. I noticed when I stand and walk I put all of my weight on my heels so I'm hoping once I start losing weight I'll notice a difference, and if not, i'll have to go to a dr. But I'm like 90% sure that's what it is. My mom even said the same thing happened to her when she was heavier and now that she's lost weight, it doesn't happen anymore. We'll see!

I love how you can see Illuminations from the Boardwalk, I remember seeing it from the parking lot on one of my trips!

My trip is from the 20th-29th, possibly 30th if I add a day! So we're there at the same time! And I'm guessing 99% of my time will be in Epcot, haha, because I'm taking full advantage of Food and Wine! Are you doing MNSSHP? I'm guessing our park days will overlap at some point! Do you have any tentative plans? I kind of do, but it's hard, I haven't made too many ADR's yet because I have no idea where I'll want to be on which day! And then adding FP+ makes it even harder! This is definitely the toughest trip I've had to plan yet!

 

[Nermel9]

It's our Last Disney Day, but I'm in Epcot so Whatever!

Tuesday, December 3

Hi guys! I know, random title right? Well that's how I felt that day! I was so sad waking up, because I knew it was our last Disney day, and I had no idea at that point when we would be back...but I couldn't be too sad because we were on our way to Epcot for rope drop!

We arrived just as the park was opening and I was all set to run over to Soarin' to get FP's (it's so strange to me that we don't have to do that anymore! Like it's nice, but at the same time, I can't even tell you how stressed I am at the thought of picking FP's September! ) but before we did that, I wanted to stop for a picture in front of Spaceship Earth. We never take enough pictures and I always regret it!



(Not the greatest picture, but look how long my hair was!!! I cut it like, a month ago because the ends were so dead, but I cut off wayyy too much. Just trying to be patient and wait for it to grow back...good thing it grows really fast!)

(Ok, that's way too much info about my hair for you guys. I'm sorry.)





Such a beautiful morning!

Anyway, after we took our pictures we raced over to Soarin' and got FP's for 10:45. That was perfect, because it gave us time to get breakfast and hit a few more Future World attractions!

We had breakfast at one of our favorite places, Sunshine Seasons! And I had my favorite, Strawberry Shortcake.



I think Brandon had that panini sandwich thing he always gets with 8 different types of meat on it...I didn't take a picture or put it in my notes, because it's not as exciting as my strawberry shortcake!

Once we were finished eating, we kind of just wandered around for a little while. There was this really cool display made of chocolate that represented the Disney parks and Cruise line, so we looked at that for a while!





I was dying to go on Mission Space, because I love the Orange Side and haven't been on it in a really long time. Brandon hates the Orange Side so the last time we went on it, we did the Green Side and it was boring, so I finally convinced him to go on the Orange Side again!



Monorail!

We were starting to walk to the other side of Future World, when we saw Chip and Dale were out, and the line was pretty short! I love Chip and Dale, so we got in line to meet them! It was one of those times where I felt awkward in line because we were the only ones without a kid with us, but the characters never treat you any differently, so I need to get over that!



We were the last ones to meet them, I don't remember what the attendant said they had to go do, maybe go bother Pluto or eat acorns or something, but we stayed to watch them walk away, because they're so cute! Little chipmunk butts!



On our way over to Mission Space, I noticed how beautiful my fountain looked and how blue the sky was, so of course, I had to stop to take a few pictures! And we stood right in the mist, which felt really nice, because it was pretty hot that day!







Finally we arrived at our destination...Mission Space!



There was a little bit of a wait, which was strange because there's usually no wait for this ride, which gave me time to think. Which is never good. For those of you who don't know, I have a huge problem with anxiety and getting myself worked up. So while in line, I started thinking about the person who died on Mission Space. (Is that actually true? Or is that a Disney Urban Legend?) I know, stupid right? But once I thought about it, I couldn't stop. We got into our spaceship, and by then, my heart was pounding because I was terrified that I was going to die. I just thought my heart was going to stop. No idea why, I just had this idea in my head and I couldn't make myself calm down. But I didn't want to tell Brandon, and I didn't want to scream or cause a scene so I basically talked myself out of a full blown panic attack on Mission Space. I just sat back and tried to enjoy the ride. Usually I love it...I love taking off, and that feeling of weightlessness, and then the slingshot around the moon...this time, I hated every second of it. I was praying it would end. Not because I felt sick or anything, but because I was so terrified of having a panic attack and dying in there. I know it sounds stupid, but trust me, if you're prone to panic attacks like I am, there's pretty much nothing worse.

Finally it was over, and as soon as we got off, I told Brandon I was done with that ride for good. I told him about my almost panic attack and feeling like I might die and he said "good because I felt like I was going to throw up" so we're pretty much in agreement...no more Mission Space for us!

I hate saying I'll never go on a Disney ride ever again, so who knows, if I ever get my anxiety under control, maybe I'll give Mission Space another try, but for now, I can live without it!

It was time to use our Soarin' FP's so we went back over to the land and got in iine...yes, there was a line for the FP side of Soarin', which aggravated Brandon. He always thinks if you have a FP, you should be able to just get right on, and I try to tell him that's not always how it works...I can't wait to see what it's going to be like in September and only having FP+ to work with! At least they finally added park hopping though, so that's good!

Soarin' was fun as always, so we left Future World and went over to the World Showcase! We had lunch reservations there, but not for a couple of hours so we just wanted to wander around the World Showcase and take our time! Soak in all that Disney magic on our last day!

Up next... the World Showcase, then MVMCP!!

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[KatMark]

My trip is from the 20th-29th, possibly 30th if I add a day! So we're there at the same time! And I'm guessing 99% of my time will be in Epcot, haha, because I'm taking full advantage of Food and Wine! Are you doing MNSSHP? I'm guessing our park days will overlap at some point! Do you have any tentative plans? I kind of do, but it's hard, I haven't made too many ADR's yet because I have no idea where I'll want to be on which day! And then adding FP+ makes it even harder! This is definitely the toughest trip I've had to plan yet!

I'll come back to read your update later, but I wanted to answer this before I forgot.

We do have all of our ADR's picked out and our park plans as well (subject to change):

September 20 -- Animal Kingdom

September 21 -- Magic Kingdom (evening only)

September 22 -- Hollywood Studios a.m. and evening and Epcot in the evening (we are avoiding Epcot on weekends because of F&W)

September 23 -- we are with "that's nice" and family (DIS member that I've known the longest) for the day

September 24 -- Backstage Safari and DTD and Epcot in evening

September 25 -- Magic Kingdom day and Epcot in evening

September 26 -- Magic Kingdom in morning and then we head to Marco Island

 

[MEK]

Oh NO Jen! I can so identify with your panic attack because I have had them before and I have an anxiety disorder. But I have learned to keep it under control most of the time. And here is how - and this is going to sound weird - but when you feel the panic attack come on you actually say to yourself "bring it on. " In stead of trying to mentally run from it you invite it in. You say "I'm going on Mission Space today and I'm going to die" Sounds funny, right? Because once you say it out loud you realize how stupid it really is.

I can't go on the orange side of MS anymore because of a similar experience. I hyperventilated myself into feeling too dizzy. So now I don't ride it. But that was before I learned my "bring it" technique. The "bring it" technique has helped me ride coasters and ToT with a lot less anxiety.

Now I rambled on so long I can't remember what else you wrote about. Doh!

I love your fountain, too. So pretty! And nice picture of SE on the way in!

 

[KatMark]

I don't like strawberries, but your strawberry shortcake looks yummy.

Cute picture with Chip and Dale.

I will admit that I have no problem saying that I will never do a Disney ride again. Mission is one of them, along with Rock & Roll Roller Coaster and Primevil Hurl (I'm sure there are others...but those are the main ones for now).

It does feel strange arranging the FP's ahead of time, but we've had no issues for our trip next month and I'm not anticipating any for September.

 

[DisneyKid4Life]

Don't let the thought of picking FP's stress you out. It's not as bad as it sounds.

Not gonna lie, I kinda lingered for a while over the Strawberry Shortcake picture. #obsession

Haha, try getting into a character line solo with no kids. But you know what, I never give it a second thought. My mental age is about the same, so it all works.

 

[Dugette]

If it has to be your last day, at least it's in Epcot.

Ugh, that's scary about the anxiety with Mission Space. I'm not prone to that type of thing, but the same line of thinking freaked me out too, the one time I rode the Orange Side. I just tried to remind myself that (I think) the death was associated with a pre-existing heart issue. And that tons of people ride every day and are just fine. Plus, it helped that the people riding with us were joking around the whole time. But, I get what you're saying, for sure.

 

[scottny]

I like the pic in front of the tree.
My favorite fountain. I want it in my backyard when I get one of those too.
I do not like the building of the car in TT as I find it a waste of time but the track inside and out I like. Reminds me of Tron.
Lucky guy getting to Scotch Eggs. LOl. Those are so good.
Sorry about your feet. I love my Merrells but prefer their shoes for wlaking long distances over their sneakers. If you are by a Walmart check into Dr. Scholls sneakers. They r really comfy.
I have never had Disney popcorn.
I like to go slow out of Epcot also and always take a pic of the sidewalk.
Love the palm tree and SE pic.
It was a beautiful morning. We were at Universal this day.
Nice pic with Chip & Dale.
WOW! Too bad how you were on MS. I have only done the green side as I cannot bring myself to do the orange.
Yours and Kathy’s dates are when I will be in Italy. Actually the first day the 20th we are in St. Moritz Switzerland. I will probably see Kathy posting on FB. LOl. Seems to be the time to travel.
Great updates and pics.