My Sister in Law just return from Hawaii....

[Conan the Librarian]

Just in case someone is interested, the new resort will be here.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=...27,-158.124139&spn=0.004347,0.007145&t=h&z=17


Sorry, I couldn't get it to imbed in the post.

I did a Google search and there are a number of articles about the resort. The building to the top left of the photo is the J.W. Marriott Ihilani Resort and Spa.

 

[mommacat56]

To Conan:

What is the huge complex at the bottom (if you scroll down in the picture)? It has the aqua roofing. Looks bigger than the other complex at the top. There seems to be a few large estates in and around the area as well. Is the DVC planned going to fit in between all of these? Or are those being purchased to make enough space? Just a few things to think about.

 

[JaxFLBear]

To Conan:

What is the huge complex at the bottom (if you scroll down in the picture)? It has the aqua roofing. Looks bigger than the other complex at the top. There seems to be a few large estates in and around the area as well. Is the DVC planned going to fit in between all of these? Or are those being purchased to make enough space? Just a few things to think about.

Looks like it's Marriott's Ko Olina Beach Club

 

[mommacat56]

Looks like it's Marriott's Ko Olina Beach Club

Thanks for the info. Do you think DVC will fit in between?

Mary

 

[JaxFLBear]

Just in case someone is interested, the new resort will be here.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=...27,-158.124139&spn=0.004347,0.007145&t=h&z=17


Sorry, I couldn't get it to imbed in the post.

I did a Google search and there are a number of articles about the resort. The building to the top left of the photo is the J.W. Marriott Ihilani Resort and Spa.

From what I've been able to find on the net, Disney will be building next to the J.W. Marriott at Lagoon 1.

If you look at this link and zoom to the Ko Olina Resort, what's labeled as "Ko Olina Hotel & Timeshare" is where Disney should be building.

 

[TenThousandVolts]

Interesting observation, SanDeeKath- I have been looking at cruises from CA to Hawaii recently and noticed that none are less than 14 days- So I guess it takes a few days to get from port to port- and from your description it would not be the easiest trip. I think you are probably right about most of the cruises going from KoOlina around the Islands- but I think an occasional repo to/from Haw./CA would be a great thing- imagine the possibilities for a 2 part vacation. A few days in CA- followed by a few days at sea- then a nice stay in Hawaii- then fly straight home from Hawaii or vice-versa, starting at KoOlina and finishing up in CA.

 

[SJCSuzyQ]

Interesting observation, SanDeeKath- I have been looking at cruises from CA to Hawaii recently and noticed that none are less than 14 days- So I guess it takes a few days to get from port to port- and from your description it would not be the easiest trip. I think you are probably right about most of the cruises going from KoOlina around the Islands- but I think an occasional repo to/from Haw./CA would be a great thing- imagine the possibilities for a 2 part vacation. A few days in CA- followed by a few days at sea- then a nice stay in Hawaii- then fly straight home from Hawaii or vice-versa, starting at KoOlina and finishing up in CA.

Although it's fun to dream unfortunately I don't think they'll be sailing around the HI islands or one-way between LA and HI either. The law is known as the Passenger Vessel Services Act (PVSA), it states for a ship to sail between US ports it must be registered and built in the US. Since we no longer have shipyards that build cruise ships this will make it impossible for DCL to do it. Right now the only cruiseline authorized to sail around HI is NCL-A and they had to get special congressional waivers since their ships weren't built in the US either. They have also had a heck of a time finding US citizens who want to work as hard/long as the foreign nationals do.

Customs and Border Patrol are currently looking into making the rules of the PVSA more restrictive to stop Princess, Royal, etc from sailing from LA with a token stop in Ensenada. If that happens many of the ships will probably homeport in Mexico or Canada to get around the rule. It will also affect cruises on the east coast too. If you're want to read more about it go to cruisecritic.com and click on the ask a cruise question board, there is a thread there that is very informative.

 

[TenThousandVolts]

Although it's fun to dream... The law is known as the Passenger Vessel Services Act (PVSA),...

Oh - this is what CarolA and others were talking about- I had never heard of such a thing- well you learn something new everyday.

 

[PinkTink63]

Princess Cruiselines has had Roundtrip Los Angeles to the Hawaiian Islands from Oct - Apr, so it can be done for quite a bit of the year. They're 14 day cruises.

My in-laws just went on this cruise in Dec.

 

["Got Disney"]

Where is Disney Cruise Line "based"?

If it's not a US registered ship (like most of the cruise lines aren't) I don't think this is likely to happen.

Hopefully someone will know for sure, but I am pretty sure these cruise lines have to go SOMEPLACE not US for some unknown reason which is why there are very few cruise lines in Hawaii cruising the islands.... There's no foreign country close enough for a quick trip!

If you are on a cruise that begins at a US port, the cruise must end at the same US port or a foreign port. Also, a cruise that begins and ends at a US port must make a stop in a foreign port.

Most of the cruises from the west coast to Hawaii will sail in/out of Mexico. What few Island Hoppers Cruises there are will usually stop in French Polynesia.

Princess Cruiselines has had Roundtrip Los Angeles to the Hawaiian Islands from Oct - Apr, so it can be done for quite a bit of the year. They're 14 day cruises.

I live here in SanDiego and we have a ship that sails from here to Hawaii by way of Mexico and there is one from LA and also can catch one in Ensenada Mexico.

I could see them doing that sailing from DL/CA. to Hawaii. I live in SanDiego so that would be great. Set sail and than use my pts for there hotel in Hawaii. Or sail one way and fly home...works for me

 

[dwelty]

Although it's fun to dream unfortunately I don't think they'll be sailing around the HI islands or one-way between LA and HI either. The law is known as the Passenger Vessel Services Act (PVSA), it states for a ship to sail between US ports it must be registered and built in the US. Since we no longer have shipyards that build cruise ships this will make it impossible for DCL to do it. Right now the only cruiseline authorized to sail around HI is NCL-A and they had to get special congressional waivers since their ships weren't built in the US either. They have also had a heck of a time finding US citizens who want to work as hard/long as the foreign nationals do.

Customs and Border Patrol are currently looking into making the rules of the PVSA more restrictive to stop Princess, Royal, etc from sailing from LA with a token stop in Ensenada. If that happens many of the ships will probably homeport in Mexico or Canada to get around the rule. It will also affect cruises on the east coast too. If you're want to read more about it go to cruisecritic.com and click on the ask a cruise question board, there is a thread there that is very informative.

This is all true. I do know that Norwegian has two 7 day Island hopper cruises one that stopps in Fanning Island (British Owned) nearby. This allows them to visit a foreign port. The other ship has an all American Crew and as a result does not have to abide by the rule. (I have heard the service on this one is below par unfortunately). So there are at least two ways around this.

 

[tigger2esq]

for our honeymoon (10 years ago) we got to cruise the hawaiian islands on one of the only two ships that were US registered. (we did fly to honoloulu and then cruise the islands) unfortunately these two ships went out of business shortly after 9/11. my parents looked into the other cruises and they are all a miimum of 14 days becuase it takes several days to get from calif. (or mexico) to hawaii by ship. and for me personally--I would rather be in an airplane for 6 hours over the ocean than on a boat for 3 or 4 days (each way) out in the open water. I think I would go stir crazy unless that ship was HUGE (and even then...).

 

[dgaston]

We cruised NCL's Pride of Hawaii in 2006 for our 35th Wedding Anniversary. It was a 7 day cruise departing Honolulu on Monday. Now NCl has renamed Pride of Hawaii (think it's Jade) and they are back to 2 ships doing the 7 day around the island cruise. Despite all the complaints about US crew, we had an excellent cruise stopping at 4 islands. NCL and others offer 10 day cruises that visit Fanning Island for the out of US requirement.

My Disney dream is to cruise to Hawaii from the US (Ensenada or anywhere else) and then stay at Ko Olina for a while, flying back to the US. Then I can start dreaming about an Alaskan cruise. I agree with the folks who wish Disney had picked Maui or Kauai for the DVC resort location.

 

[nunzia]

My in-laws just went on this cruise in Dec.

Did they find the seas rough or have any seasickness issues?

 

["Got Disney"]

We cruised NCL's Pride of Hawaii in 2006 for our 35th Wedding Anniversary. It was a 7 day cruise departing Honolulu on Monday. Now NCl has renamed Pride of Hawaii (think it's Jade) and they are back to 2 ships doing the 7 day around the island cruise. Despite all the complaints about US crew, we had an excellent cruise stopping at 4 islands. NCL and others offer 10 day cruises that visit Fanning Island for the out of US requirement.

My Disney dream is to cruise to Hawaii from the US (Ensenada or anywhere else) and then stay at Ko Olina for a while, flying back to the US. Then I can start dreaming about an Alaskan cruise. I agree with the folks who wish Disney had picked Maui or Kauai for the DVC resort location.

I am assuming that they got a better price for the land there because it is farther away from stuff. I can only imagine the price for the land, building the hotel and everything else. I for one would have also liked that but am glad that they are building one there either way