My dd2 was called a BRAT today @Walmart:(

[NikitaZee]

I can't believe 17 pages all because some woman called the OP's DD a brat.

Hahahaha! Although I have to admit, I got sucked into it too!

 

[The Orchid]

I cannot believe this thread. I really can't.

We're talking about a two-year old.

A two-year old screeched in a Wal-Mart and mom had the audacity to finish her shopping trip. Call the authorities!

Nobody died. I HIGHLY doubt anyone's hearing was lost.

The OP obviously feels bad enough already about what was said to her. She clearly just came here for a little sympathy. Why are folks piling it on and probably making her feel worse -- lectures on how to parent, why she was in the wrong, shoppers' rights, etc.

Can't we sometimes just give someone a little support and move on?

Well, I hear what you are saying. The thread has become a little harsh. However, to give support to somebody whose behavior was wrong is to encourage said person to continue with that behavior. The OP was wrong in the opinion of the majority. Perhaps it wasn't an earth shattering wrong, but it absolutely was wrong. I'm glad people didn't coddle her and tell her it's all good. Hopefully she'll lick her wounds, then think on it and learn something. Then the next time she's shopping, her fellow shoppers' experience will be a much more pleasant one.

Nobody hates the OP. Nobody is angry at her or thinks poorly of her. It was one act that offended people, and the vast majority of posters here have been in her shoes where we post something and a whole lotta people disagree. It really is ok. I'm sure we all know the OP is a good person with good intentions who probably just needed to hear the other side of this so she could understand that people do have different experiences of screeching children. It's up to her now to decide if she wants to try to be more accommodating to other people's needs or ignore them. Either way, I'm still reasonable sure the OP is a good person; one who the majority of DISers disagree with on ONE point. If anybody here sat down and chatted with her for an afternoon, I would bet nearly everybody would really like her. This thread has become really harsh, and it is hard to be on the OP's side of this, but it really is part of being on a large community message board when you put your stuff out there! I sincerely hope she won't be so put off by this that she stops posting at the DIS.

 

[CowboyCO]

Excuse me while I put my Flameproof jacket. OK now I'm ready

I'm think that you have to accept some blame here. I have 4 kids and I knew that if I took them out and 1). they hadn't napped or 2). I took them on too many errands or 3). It was 3 pm I was in for it. They were going to be holy terrors and it probably wasn't worth it taking them out right then. Why are you surprized that other people aren't thrilled with your kid screetching??? Should the woman had said something? No. But everyone in the store was probably cheering when you left. I'm sorry I don't mean to be harsh but we've all been in your shoes and we as parents are the ones at the most fault. The child should have been home to have their nap. You shouldn't have dragged her out to Walmart or anywhere else or be prepared for people not appreciating it.

That said you know your child isn't a brat she was tired and over stressed. We Moms try to do too much in too little time. And occasionally we pay the price in cranky kids, cranky husbands and cranky Moms. Be extra nice to yourself tonight, take a deep breathe and try again tomarrow. Parenting isn't for the faint of heart.

I have to agree with you up to a point. My DS when he was 12 months had a habit a screeching when he wanted something. We had a little restaurant in town where we used to go for breakfast and he would sit in his high chair and screeech!. After two episodes, we finally put a moratorium on ALL restaurants - fast food included. We didn't go out with the kids for over 6 months until he started talking more and stopped screeching. We just didn't want to subject people to his ear-piercing screeches.

Now, in this case -- it's Wal-Mart. It's not Sax Fifth Avenue. I expect to hear babies crying/screeching/whining. I also wouldn't be surprised to see kids wearing nothing but a stinky diaper... Hey - It's Wal-mart...

 

[Jennasis]

I have to agree with you up to a point. My DS when he was 12 months had a habit a screeching when he wanted something. We had a little restaurant in town where we used to go for breakfast and he would sit in his high chair and screeech!. After two episodes, we finally put a moratorium on ALL restaurants - fast food included. We didn't go out with the kids for over 6 months until he started talking more and stopped screeching. We just didn't want to subject people to his ear-piercing screeches.

Now, in this case -- it's Wal-Mart. It's not Sax Fifth Avenue. I expect to hear babies crying/screeching/whining. I also wouldn't be surprised to see kids wearing nothing but a stinky diaper... Hey - It's Wal-mart...

I wouldn't be surprised to see an adult wearing nothing but a stinky diaper..

 

[Ember]

"Breeders" ???

I've been called a lot of things..........

Hehehehe. I realize the pp used this in a not nice way, but that's funny. Next time someone gives me grief about not having babies I'm happily stating I'm not a breeder!

 

[shortbun]

ignore people who are annoying

take children home when they become annoying, this includes teenagers!!!!

especially teenagers!!!
Yeah, I abandoned by shopping on more than one occasion when I knew my son had had enough. But- I usually just feel sorry for the mother and the child when I hear a whiny child and would NEVER say a single thing except maybe 'could you use some help?' to a parent with a really yelling child. I would mean that I would help with anything.

 

[JanaNs]

Well, I hear what you are saying. The thread has become a little harsh. However, to give support to somebody whose behavior was wrong is to encourage said person to continue with that behavior. The OP was wrong in the opinion of the majority. Perhaps it wasn't an earth shattering wrong, but it absolutely was wrong. I'm glad people didn't coddle her and tell her it's all good. Hopefully she'll lick her wounds, then think on it and learn something. Then the next time she's shopping, her fellow shoppers' experience will be a much more pleasant one.

Nobody hates the OP. Nobody is angry at her or thinks poorly of her. It was one act that offended people, and the vast majority of posters here have been in her shoes where we post something and a whole lotta people disagree. It really is ok. I'm sure we all know the OP is a good person with good intentions who probably just needed to hear the other side of this so she could understand that people do have different experiences of screeching children. It's up to her now to decide if she wants to try to be more accommodating to other people's needs or ignore them. Either way, I'm still reasonable sure the OP is a good person; one who the majority of DISers disagree with on ONE point. If anybody here sat down and chatted with her for an afternoon, I would bet nearly everybody would really like her. This thread has become really harsh, and it is hard to be on the OP's side of this, but it really is part of being on a large community message board when you put your stuff out there! I sincerely hope she won't be so put off by this that she stops posting at the DIS.

Nobody is angry with her? Could have fooled me. When you read the description for what the community board is about it says ".....but be nice". I find that alot of the DIS'ers don't know how to say anything in a nice way. I joined these boards because I'm planning a trip to WDW in April. I have been a couple of times before and learned alot from the trip planning boards but never joined until this year. I noticed the OP was fairly new as well. I thought the community board would be fun but it's not. I find ALOT (not all) of the DIS'ers to be mean spirited, judgemental and not very nice. Do I expect everyone to agree with everyone else? No. But the snide comments are really too much. Everyone just seems really angry and unhappy and it's so irionic considering this is a Disney related site.

 

[Carly_Roach]

This lady says, "can you control your kid".

Had I been in the OP's situation and somebody said something like that to me or my child I guess I would've laughed a little right before she had to pick her butt up off the floor.

Just so I have this straight, if an elderly woman in a motorized scooter had asked you to control your two-year old, you would have immediately escalated the situation to a physical altercation where the handicapped woman would be on the floor? (I guess it wouldn't be all that hard to push her out of her ECV)

And then you would have excused your behavior as "goin' all mama bear" on the woman?

Good luck with your defense in court. I can't see a jury siding with a woman who beat up an elderly lady because that elderly lady asked the woman to control her child. It would appear to the jury that the woman obviously had self-control issues of her own.

 

[just4today]

Had I been in the OP's situation and somebody said something like that to me or my child I guess I would've laughed a little right before she had to pick her butt up off the floor.

I know when my child is misbehaving and I will deal with him or her but unless somebody else wants a very serious altercation then they better leave me the heck alone. I am a very even tempered person and I can handle just about anything EXCEPT somebody saying or doing something to my kids and then I can turn nasty very very quickly and this would've definately been one of those times.

Right.

Just so I have this straight, if an elderly woman in a motorized scooter had asked you to control your two-year old, you would have immediately escalated the situation to a physical altercation where the handicapped woman would be on the floor? (I guess it wouldn't be all that hard to push her out of her ECV)

And then you would have excused your behavior as "goin' all mama bear" on the woman?

Good luck with your defense in court. I can't see a jury siding with a woman who beat up an elderly lady because that elderly lady asked the woman to control her child. It would appear to the jury that the woman obviously had self-control issues of her own.

I doubt very much that beautybelle, with her "even temper" would do such a thing. It's just a lot of smack talk.

 

[chicagodisneyfan]

Had I been in the OP's situation and somebody said something like that to me or my child I guess I would've laughed a little right before she had to pick her butt up off the floor.

I know when my child is misbehaving and I will deal with him or her but unless somebody else wants a very serious altercation then they better leave me the heck alone. I am a very even tempered person and I can handle just about anything EXCEPT somebody saying or doing something to my kids and then I can turn nasty very very quickly and this would've definately been one of those times.

Wait a minute - I call your child a brat - and you would HIT me??
That is insane - and would get you arrested!

 

[Aisling]

it's freaking Walmart for crying out loud. Let your child have a nap then go. If she's screeching - remember this: the world does not revolve around you or she - get the hell out. What the hell ever happened to manners and consideration in this world? Never mind, teaching yoru child appropriate and inappropriate behaviors.

You're right, it's freaking Walmart, not the public library.

You're right, you should have a nap before you go so that your nerves will be nice and calm to deal with life.

You're right, the world does not revolve around you - get the hell out if hearing a child screech is going to give you a nervous breakdown.

You're right, what the hell happened to manners in this world calling mothers "breeder" like they're animals.

You're right, teach children appropriate behavior and not to get hysterical when they hear/see a kid screeching in a store.

 

[Took]

Yeah but alot of people wouldn't consider that a disruption. I dont. So what, a screaming kid for what 20 mins...my life will go on.

No one is suggestion that their lives won't "go on." We're discussing teaching children how to behave in public. I agree, there are subjective angles to this question; however, there are some general rules of conduct. I'm sure even you have your "limits."

 

[FinallyBoughtDVC]

Hehehehe. I realize the pp used this in a not nice way, but that's funny. Next time someone gives me grief about not having babies I'm happily stating I'm not a breeder!

I just wish people would sit back and realize that we all have to live on this planet together.

People used to have manners and consideration when raising their children. I have three kids: 21, 16 and 10. I would never, ever have let my children's behavior interfere with anyone else's day.

I'm so sick and tired of hearing things like "you have issues" or "you owe an apology" - No. I don't.

The OP and the woman in Target who let their offspring behave like this could go a long way by recognizing their little ones are not the center of the world and by simply apologizing or removing the child. That's parenting. Ignoring the sound and expecting everyone else to have to deal with it is rude and encourages the same behavior over and over. That's not parenting.

The OP, in several posts went on about how she has to ger her errands done with limited time and everyone else who is annoyed by that should shop online....seriously? That's not entitlement?

It reminds me of the expression: "A failure to plan on your part does not create an emergency on my part."

She admitted her child had no nap. She chooses to have all this responsibility by having five children which limits her time to get her job as head of the household done and the rest of us are supposed to deal?

Sorry, I don't think I'm the one with the issues.

We've all had crazy days - if my child was behaving so horribly that someone had to comment on it - then I failed. Period. At the least, I'd apologize and learn from my mistake to plan my day and my child's day better. I wouldn't come here looking for sympathy. I certainly wouldn't engage what could possibly be a crazy person with my child sitting there.

It would just be nice, once and a while, to see people take responsilibity for their own actions instead of looking to make excuses.

I happen to like the word breeder - someone who just keeps producing offspring and doesn't parent them is really nothing more than that.

 

[wdwfan16]

No one is suggestion that their lives won't "go on." We're discussing teaching children how to behave in public. I agree, there are subjective angles to this question; however, there are some general rules of conduct. I'm sure even you have your "limits."

I wonder how long the OP would let her 2 year old scream/screech at home before she could not take it? Should the little angel be allowed to do this in public only but not at home?

 

[jodifla]

I just wish people would sit back and realize that we all have to live on this planet together.

People used to have manners and consideration when raising their children. I have three kids: 21, 16 and 10. I would never, ever have let my children's behavior interfere with anyone else's day.

I'm so sick and tired of hearing things like "you have issues" or "you owe an apology" - No. I don't.

The OP and the woman in Target who let their offspring behave like this could go a long way by recognizing their little ones are not the center of the world and by simply apologizing or removing the child. That's parenting. Ignoring the sound and expecting everyone else to have to deal with it is rude and encourages the same behavior over and over. That's not parenting.

The OP, in several posts went on about how she has to ger her errands done with limited time and everyone else who is annoyed by that should shop online....seriously? That's not entitlement?

It reminds me of the expression: "A failure to plan on your part does not create an emergency on my part."

She admitted her child had no nap. She chooses to have all this responsibility by having five children which limits her time to get her job as head of the household done and the rest of us are supposed to deal?

Sorry, I don't think I'm the one with the issues.

We've all had crazy days - if my child was behaving so horribly that someone had to comment on it - then I failed. Period. At the least, I'd apologize and learn from my mistake to plan my day and my child's day better. I wouldn't come here looking for sympathy. I certainly wouldn't engage what could possibly be a crazy person with my child sitting there.

It would just be nice, once and a while, to see people take responsilibity for their own actions instead of looking to make excuses.

I happen to like the word breeder - someone who just keeps producing offspring and doesn't parent them is really nothing more than that.

Your posts have the most entitlement attitude on the whole thread.

And breeder is insulting, and way worse than any 2 year old behavior.

 

[Jennasis]

Wonder how long before this thread gets shut down? My spidey-sense is tingling.

 

[KAMKIM]

No one is suggestion that their lives won't "go on." We're discussing teaching children how to behave in public. I agree, there are subjective angles to this question; however, there are some general rules of conduct. I'm sure even you have your "limits."

Everyone has their limits - a playing screeching child that is not mine in Walmart would not get me to the point of calling the mother a name and the child a name.

Crabby adults get me to my limit WAY before kids do and I still would not call them a name to make myself feel better about the situation.

 

[DisneyMomx7]

You're right, it's freaking Walmart, not the public library.

You're right, you should have a nap before you go so that your nerves will be nice and calm to deal with life.

You're right, the world does not revolve around you - get the hell out if hearing a child screech is going to give you a nervous breakdown.

You're right, what the hell happened to manners in this world calling mothers "breeder" like they're animals.

You're right, teach children appropriate behavior and not to get hysterical when they hear/see a kid screeching in a store.

ITA.

For what it's worth, let's remember that the child is 2. Two year olds don't always act the way we want. Most people try not to take a child to the store when they need a nap, but sometimes life happens.

I would have felt sorry for the mom (most of us with kids have been there, done that) and offered her an encouraging smile. For goodness sake - it's Walmart, not the Ritz!

 

[KAMKIM]

I just wish people would sit back and realize that we all have to live on this planet together.

People used to have manners and consideration when raising their children. I have three kids: 21, 16 and 10. I would never, ever have let my children's behavior interfere with anyone else's day.

I'm so sick and tired of hearing things like "you have issues" or "you owe an apology" - No. I don't.

The OP and the woman in Target who let their offspring behave like this could go a long way by recognizing their little ones are not the center of the world and by simply apologizing or removing the child. That's parenting. Ignoring the sound and expecting everyone else to have to deal with it is rude and encourages the same behavior over and over. That's not parenting.

The OP, in several posts went on about how she has to ger her errands done with limited time and everyone else who is annoyed by that should shop online....seriously? That's not entitlement?

It reminds me of the expression: "A failure to plan on your part does not create an emergency on my part."

She admitted her child had no nap. She chooses to have all this responsibility by having five children which limits her time to get her job as head of the household done and the rest of us are supposed to deal?

Sorry, I don't think I'm the one with the issues.

We've all had crazy days - if my child was behaving so horribly that someone had to comment on it - then I failed. Period. At the least, I'd apologize and learn from my mistake to plan my day and my child's day better. I wouldn't come here looking for sympathy. I certainly wouldn't engage what could possibly be a crazy person with my child sitting there.

It would just be nice, once and a while, to see people take responsilibity for their own actions instead of looking to make excuses.

I happen to like the word breeder - someone who just keeps producing offspring and doesn't parent them is really nothing more than that.

So because the OP happened to be in Walmart with a happy screeching child means she doesn't parent her?

 

[KAMKIM]

ITA.

For what it's worth, let's remember that the child is 2. Two year olds don't always act the way we want. Most people try not to take a child to the store when they need a nap, but sometimes life happens.

I would have felt sorry for the mom (most of us with kids have been there, done that) and offered her an encouraging smile. For goodness sake - it's Walmart, not the Ritz!