My daughter needs $4900 to turn the power back on at her house

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Grandpa Jones

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There is lots of talk about high credit card debt and high electric bills but my daughters story is even worse.

She is an over spender and has gone bankrupt twice in the last twenty years. She rarely pays her bills on time and feels it is her right to live well on someone else's money.

Well, she just had her electricity cut off due to non payment and they won't turn it back on until she pays almost $5000 to the utility company.

She did not pay them but for some reason they threated to cut off her power last summer but never did. All along the balance on her account just went up and up as the months went by. During the 6 months of winter by law they could not cut her power off. Then Spring came and they threated her to cut the power off and she complained in a nuisance suit to the government utilities commission that she was being harassed. That bought her a few more months of power. Finally all her appeals were up and they shut off her power.

Now she wants her parents, US, to pay the bill so she can have electricity again. It's for the kids she says.

Should I bail her out, for the kids?
 
No. I would look for other ways to help/protect the kids, but giving money to their mother at this point would not be good.

How old are the kids? Are they well cared for otherwise? Do they have appropriate food, etc.? The safety of the kids is paramount, but dollars alone don't buy safety. They deserve someone who is thinking of their needs - something their mom might not be capable of doing.

I'm so sad for you. It must be terribly hard to watch your dd implode like this, especially when she's taking the kids along for the ride.
 
No.

I would invest $25 in a Dave Ramsey book and tell her to read it.
 

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No.

I would invest $25 in a Dave Ramsey book and tell her to read it.
Between this board and the community board seems lik a troll to me. If this guy is serious though how does that help his grand kids have electricity? I can't say what I would do but if I did decide to I wouldn't do it without a promissory note with a clear payment schedule laid out.
 
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Between this board and the community board seems lik a troll to me. If this guy is serious though how does that help his grand kids have electricity? I can't say what I would do but if I did decide to I wouldn't do it without a promissory note with a clear payment schedule laid out.

I just saw the community board post and now think the same thing.
 
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Between this board and the community board seems lik a troll to me. If this guy is serious though how does that help his grand kids have electricity? I can't say what I would do but if I did decide to I wouldn't do it without a promissory note with a clear payment schedule laid out.

It helps because it's like teaching their mom to fish. Paying her bill will just cause her to get back into the same mess. If this is true, she needs to learn how to budget, not just get another bailout.
 
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Between this board and the community board seems lik a troll to me. If this guy is serious though how does that help his grand kids have electricity? I can't say what I would do but if I did decide to I wouldn't do it without a promissory note with a clear payment schedule laid out.

Agreed.::yes:: Almost this same exact post showed up about a month or so ago. And it got ugly pretty fast. Wonder why the need to stir the pot again?
 
Amazing how you and your daughter found this board within a few weeks of each other.
 
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Between this board and the community board seems lik a troll to me. If this guy is serious though how does that help his grand kids have electricity? I can't say what I would do but if I did decide to I wouldn't do it without a promissory note with a clear payment schedule laid out.

what good would that do?? she's already filed for bankruptcy twice....giving her money is akin to giving a lifelong heroin addict one more fix based on a promise they will stop afterwards...
 
There is lots of talk about high credit card debt and high electric bills but my daughters story is even worse.

She is an over spender and has gone bankrupt twice in the last twenty years. She rarely pays her bills on time and feels it is her right to live well on someone else's money.

Well, she just had her electricity cut off due to non payment and they won't turn it back on until she pays almost $5000 to the utility company.

She did not pay them but for some reason they threated to cut off her power last summer but never did. All along the balance on her account just went up and up as the months went by. During the 6 months of winter by law they could not cut her power off. Then Spring came and they threated her to cut the power off and she complained in a nuisance suit to the government utilities commission that she was being harassed. That bought her a few more months of power. Finally all her appeals were up and they shut off her power.

Now she wants her parents, US, to pay the bill so she can have electricity again. It's for the kids she says.

Should I bail her out, for the kids?

No, I would offer to take the kids until she gets her life together. If she refuses, I would call CPS.
 
Your "daughter" was on here a short time ago.

I did not send her money then and I will not send her money now.

IF this is real, why you would ask on a vacation planning website is beyond me, get a lawyer and take the grand kids.
 
Just as a warning:

If, by some chance, your story is true, know that you'll be shut down before anyone can send you money.

Anyone particularly sympathetic can probalby find a needy family close to home that could use a donation. And you'll do a lot more good for your daughter if you take the grandkids until she can get her financial house in order.
 
There is lots of talk about high credit card debt and high electric bills but my daughters story is even worse.

She is an over spender and has gone bankrupt twice in the last twenty years. She rarely pays her bills on time and feels it is her right to live well on someone else's money.

Well, she just had her electricity cut off due to non payment and they won't turn it back on until she pays almost $5000 to the utility company.

She did not pay them but for some reason they threated to cut off her power last summer but never did. All along the balance on her account just went up and up as the months went by. During the 6 months of winter by law they could not cut her power off. Then Spring came and they threated her to cut the power off and she complained in a nuisance suit to the government utilities commission that she was being harassed. That bought her a few more months of power. Finally all her appeals were up and they shut off her power.

Now she wants her parents, US, to pay the bill so she can have electricity again. It's for the kids she says.

Should I bail her out, for the kids?

Short answer...HECK NO !!!

If you do you are an enabler. She will change her habit. Also when both you and your spouse is gone who will she then turn to. odds are no one. Better she learn her lesson (assuming she will) now than latter.
 
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