Wow, it's good to know there are other company's with "Cliff Clavins" working there, too. Your's is a real doozey!
But I'm with the poster who said that Cliff was actually almost always right. These "Marians" (in honor of the woman who 'cooked all the red out' of the steak) are usually wrong...but you sure can't tell them that. Don't *even* try, because then you might earn their neverending wrath.
agnes!