Multple ADRs: Good Strategy or Just Plain Rude?

chaospearl

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Hi folks. I have a horrible feeling that I'm not the first person who's asked this -- that I'm probably not even the 12,000th, but I've searched through five pages of threads and can't find anything to answer the question, and I'm sure we all know how well the Search Function actually functions. So please forgive me if this is one of those common questions that's been answered so many times you'd all like to hit me over the head with an ADR. I honestly did try to find the answer on my own.

Anyway, here goes.

I've been to WDW about five times traveling solo as an adult, and I've never been much for making ADRs. Actually, the last time I seriously looked into it, they were called Preferred Seating or something along those lines and didn't actually guarantee that you'd be able to sit down and eat at the time that you'd reserved. My family and I had a bad experience with that, having made a PS (or whatever the term was) "reservation" for a certain time and then having to wait over an hour and twenty minutes just to be able to shove our way to the bar and get drinks. If I recall, my father had to leave the restaurant -- I want to say it was Coral Reef but don't trust my memory -- and head to a nearby snack cart to grab a lemonade so that I could take my medication. The restaurant's maitre'd gave him an awfully difficult time about allowing the paper cup of lemonade back into the restaurant, so I ended up having to go outside the doors with him to swallow a few pills and then toss the drink and go back inside, during which time the seats we'd had on the waiting-area bench were naturally grabbed up. I had to stand for the next twenty minutes until a very sweet gentleman offered me his seat after noticing the difficulty I was having (I'm disabled, and standing on my feet for long periods of time wearing a double leg brace is REALLY difficult for me -- I had an ECV but we'd chosen to park it outside the restaurant because it was so crowded inside that I felt it would be unforgivably rude trying to manuever a big Disney scooter in there, although I might have reconsidered if I'd had any idea of how long we would end up waiting, because as I said, we understood that Preferred Seating wasn't the same thing as a reservation but none of us realized it could easily be an hour's wait).

Ahem, where was I... well, that's why I've never been keen on ADRs during my recent solo trips, anyway. The other issue is that because my health can change so quickly and unexpectedly depending on how much activity I've had, the heat exhaustion\dehydration factor, fatigue level, number of (prescription) morphine pills consumed, and whether or not it's a blue moon on a Tuesday night, it's extremely difficult for me to guarantee that I'm going to want to eat lunch at precisely 12:30pm on a given day. Heck, most of the time I'm not even totally certain I'll be in a particular park on the day in question; I do start off with a rough schedule in mind of the order that I'd like to visit each park, but if I woke up that morning and felt like I'd been run down by one of the tour buses, it's entirely possible that the schedule got altered on the fly so I could sleep an extra two hours before venturing out. Or that I decided to just cancel the whole day's plans and spend it in the pool with a Tom Clancy novel and a cute waitress bringing me adult beverages. And on the slim chance that I do manage to haul my sorry carcass to Epcot by 12:30pm on the afternoon that I made the ADR at Coral Reef for lunch, and I do need to eat something at that time, I still can't guarantee that seafood is going to sound pleasing. My disability requires me to ingest absolute gobfuls of medications several times a day, the majority of which produce some degree of either nausea or painful stomach cramping. Thank the heavens that I do not actually have an eating disorder to contend with, but I do struggle to maintain a healthy weight because the sad fact is that most of the time I'm too sick to eat, and if I try to force food down when it's not something that feels appetizing, it's likely going to come right back up. I really don't need to be able to write a trip report detailing how vomit-friendly each of the Disney restrooms are, thanks. And there are many, many occasions during which my tummy is feeling just queasy enough that I might be able to keep a little something down if and only if it's a smallish portion of a food that appeals to whatever vibe my digestive system has settled into that day. So it's entirely possible that the very idea of the fried clam strips I was planning on at the Coral Reef is enough to send me running for the toilet, but that I could manage a cup of miso soup and some sesame noodles.

See where I'm getting at here? My question, after all of this totally boring background information... exactly how horrible would it be, on a scale of 1 to 10, for me to make multiple ADRs for the same day with the specific intention of choosing the one that sounds best to me when the time comes and cancelling the others, or cancelling all of them if I'm not able to eat at all? I've given this some thought because I do love to enjoy my table service meals when I'm up to eating, and honestly, even when I'm not, I was born with the moon in Taurus and I take a certain pleasure in sitting at a table with a starched cloth and perusing a menu of food choices, ordering whatever I please and having someone serve it to me on china and then come and discreetly remove the mess when I've finished -- even if all I can bring myself to order is a small green salad and a glass of wine. I'd probably kind of like to sit there for an hour and escape the heat and the noise regardless of whether I'm able to eat at all, but obviously I don't do that sort of thing because I'm not one to waste the restaurant staff's time and money nursing a single ginger ale for an hour.

My train of thought chases itself in little circles when I consider this problem and the track looks something like this: I know darn well that lots and lots of people attempt to eat at TS restaurants every day on the spur of the moment without having made an ADR (walk-ins), and the reason I know this is because I've always been one of them. It is insanely difficult to get into the Coral Reef without a reservation, by the way, and I've tried at least half a dozen times on various days of the week and at different times of day, and never succeeded. So if I make myself a neat little ADR at the Coral Reef one night and it turns out that I need to cancel it an hour before ground zero because I'm locked in The Land's bathroom intensely studying the inside of the bowl in the last stall, it means that at least one of the people who really wanted to experience a peaceful meal next to the big fishtank but didn't have an ADR is going to be able to walk in and not be turned away, due to my last-minute cancellation. On the other hand, it also means that one of the more responsible type people who attempted to call ahead of time and make their own ADR for that night is going to be told there's no availability because I called first and snapped up the last 8pm reservation on the books, even though I couldn't absolutely guarantee I'd be able to show up.

Which is the lesser of two evils? Do I have any right to make a 6pm ADR at the Coral Reef, and an 8pm ADR at Ohana on the same night, fully intending to cancel at least one of them? Do the Disney reservations staff want to throttle people who do that, or are they grateful for a night with a lot of cancellations because it means they don't have to turn away so many of the hopeful walk-ins? Is it unforgivably rude to even contemplate? Should I stick to a single ADR per day and just hope that in an ideal world, my health and my tummy will cooperate to allow me to experience at least half of them? Or do I really have no business making any ADRs at all, given that I can't honestly be even reasonably sure that I'm not just wasting space in the reservations book?

I hope nobody hates me for bringing this up. I really dislike being thought of as a rude or insensitive person -- it's just that I do pay a lot of money to visit Disney World just like everybody else, and it doesn't feel fair to be shut out of all the restaurants and relegated to Old Key West's snack bar because of my sticky health situation.

Thank you for any thoughts on this.

Jenni
 
I am so sorry that you have a condition that would make you so uncomfortable. In your circumstances I see nothing wrong with doing that, as long as you do cancel the reservations you won't be dining at. I know I wouldn't want to miss out on my favorite Disney restaurants either. Best of luck to you. :)
 
Well lets see. What if somebody else had booked to ADR's for the same night and that meant when you called there weren't any tables available. Would you be happy with that?
 
Well lets see. What if somebody else had booked to ADR's for the same night and that meant when you called there weren't any tables available. Would you be happy with that?

Dude. Compassion. Look it up.


Ok, OP, I gotta say go ahead and make your multiples. No, it's not 100% kosher, but I think every guideline or rule has some wiggle room, and situations like yours are exactly what the wiggle is for. As long as you cancel the ones you aren't going to use, go for it.
 

Hey, go ahead and make those ressies! You have to deal with enough- don't worry about it. Just cancel the other one an hour or so ahead of time to open it up for someone else. :cutie:
 
I'm not sure that you would be able to do this. I had booked all of our ADR's but had been trying to get 1900 PF for our first night. Somehow it opened but the time frame was earlier that I had anticipated and I wanted to check with my DD. I did not want to lose this one though so I tried to book it. I was not able to book this one until I canceled the other. I had not told the CM that I had another booked and I used a different telephone number.

I am really not sure what the system saw that made the CM aware that I had an ADR scheduled about 90 minutes after the one I was trying to book.
 
:thumbsup2 I'm not seeing a problem here. There are exceptions to every "rule."

I just think it's great that you're able to fight through the illness to still get out and about. A lot of people would just give up.

You're awesome! :worship:
 
I would have been very happy with that in years past, because I'd have been one of the people who walked in and checked with the hostess just on the off chance that there'd been a cancellation and I could be seated.

This year, if I were calling ahead and there were no ADRs available, not so happy about it!

Thus the dilemma. I suppose it really comes down to whether it's worse to take the opportunity away from people who call for an ADR, or people who walk in on the spur of the moment. And I admit I am selfishly factoring in the part where I have the same right as everybody else to eat at the Coral Reef restaurant and there's absolutely nothing I can do about my health issues. My preferred option is to try my very best to minimize the inconvenience to other guests and to be as polite as it's possible to be while also not having to eat take-out chicken strips every night.

Jenni
 
Instead of making multiple TS ADRs, why not eat just CS meals? Then you can do whatever, whenever you wish. :earsboy:
 
Dude. Compassion. Look it up.

Yeah, that probably did come off as rather abrupt. But I did want to make the point that this practice just aggravates the situation even more.

When we go, we usually only make a couple of ADR's for our trip and we have alternatives for them if they are already booked. Of course, we go often so if we can't get into a place on that visit, we'll get it on the next one. Maybe that's part of the point - not being able to get into a particular restaurant shouldn't spoil your entire vacation.
 
Instead of making multiple TS ADRs, why not eat just CS meals? Then you can do whatever, whenever you wish. :earsboy:

I think that the CS meals get old quickly for a lot of people. Plus there is something nice about the Disney TS restaurants . . . .
 
Maybe that's part of the point - not being able to get into a particular restaurant shouldn't spoil your entire vacation.

Right, but doesn't that cut both ways? Wouldn't most guests would be understanding of another guest doing this due to special, uncontrollable circumstances? Plus, there will almost certainly be a walkup able to take the slot. That person would likely be grateful for whichever cancellation. In the end, it's just food, right?
 
I guess I have to ask.....

What timeline to you have for cancelling all these "extra" ADR's? 10 minutes before? 30 minutes?
The reason I ask is, while I completely respect the fact you have a disability, some one like me (severe food allergies)and my DD (also food allergies) may not be able to eat at the place you just cancelled because most of the food I can eat, I need to notify the Chef 24 hours a head of time. I would not be able to do that as there was no availability and I can not just "walk up".
 
Instead of making multiple TS ADRs, why not eat just CS meals? Then you can do whatever, whenever you wish. :earsboy:

CS meals while not the same variety as TS meal do offer more flexibility than many would think. If OP is willing to travel a bit:

- Lots of people really like The Pepper Market and think the food (steak, etc. ) rivals some of the TS places. Also there is a level of "service" there that the OP would probably appreciate. The next CS "raves" come from the World Showcase restaurants, probably offering even better food than some of the basic TS places at MK or MGM

- If breakfast food is to the OP's liking getting a good one at the resort might help during some grueling park days, but OP probably already has a plan for starting the day.

Depending on when she is visiting using Guest Services to locate an ADR based on how she's feeling might be a good plan too. Maybe doing the "big meal" as Lunch rather than dinner might give OP a chance to have enough steam to enjoy the meal or give you enough recovery time and fuel to get back at it. Many seem to think the Grand Floridian Cafe might be reasonable to access for lunch even without an ADR.

In my home town I often eat solo and know of places where I can just slide up to the counter, eat and leave or can be seated w/o a bother. (I work in a LOT of hours and often don't even realize I haven't eaten all day until I'm driving home at night). Does anyone know if such places exist at WDW? I've heard of it at CG and Narcoossee's, though I didn't see anyone at the bar when we had dinner at Narcoossee's on Aug. 30th and we had the Wishes seating.

Here is wishing you a Magical trip and pixie dust beyond! :thumbsup2
 
Maybe that's part of the point - not being able to get into a particular restaurant shouldn't spoil your entire vacation.

Nope, it wouldn't bother me much if I couldn't get into the place I wanted to eat one night. I mean, half the time I don't eat anyway, and that stopped bothering me years ago, so I have to keep things in perspective.

That being said, spending 8 days at Disney World at a cost of over $2000 and not being able to eat at ANY restaurants on ANY nights? Yes, that would definitely put a damper on my vacation. I don't know if it would "spoil" or ruin it entirely, but it'd definitely make me reconsider whether it's worth it to save my pennies for a full year in order to make the trip.

Thank you, everyone, for your responses -- even those of you brave enough to say that I'm out of my mind and need to just realize that disabilities come with limitations and this is one of them. I wouldn't have asked the question if I wasn't open to hearing opinions that I don't like.

I think I'm going to take the middle road and make a single ADR for each night at restaurants that have a wide menu selection so I won't be locking myself into Schezuan or something similarly digestively difficult. If I have to cancel, then I have to cancel. It'll be a happy night for somebody who didn't think they'd have a prayer at getting into CR at the last minute.

Jenni
 
If you didn't tell anyone, no one but you would know that you have multiple ADR's. I'm not sure that Disney Dining will let you though. I say, do what you have to do to make your vacation magical. Depending on when you are going this may be a moot point. There are a lot of resturants that always have tables available, like Morrocco.

Good luck with whatever you do :)
 
What timeline to you have for cancelling all these "extra" ADR's? 10 minutes before? 30 minutes?
The reason I ask is, while I completely respect the fact you have a disability, some one like me (severe food allergies)and my DD (also food allergies) may not be able to eat at the place you just cancelled because most of the food I can eat, I need to notify the Chef 24 hours a head of time. I would not be able to do that as there was no availability and I can not just "walk up".

Yeah, this is one of the things that has to be considered. I'm not the only person out there who has problems with food, and there has to be a way to ensure that ALL of us who can't eat normally through no fault of our own still have a chance to enjoy our vacations. Tricky.

To answer your question, if I made extra reservations -- that is, two or three for the same night to choose among -- I'd know at least several hours in advance, probably more, that tonight is definitely not going to permit for fried \ spicy \ seafood \ whatever it is that makes me queasy just thinking about it. I can venture a guess that I'd be able to decide by around lunchtime which of the dinner ADRs would be the most likely to work out, because a lot of it depends on whether I was able to eat lunch at all and if so, what time that was, what I ate, how much I ate, and whether it actually stayed down or made a spectacular re-appearance in the ladies' room shortly thereafter.

However, even if I know at 11am that my best choice for dinner is going to be a bland chicken salad, I won't know until about an hour beforehand whether I can eat anything at all. So the situation could very well be that I make three ADRs for 8pm on the same day, then at 11am I cancel two of them, fully intending to show up for the remaining one -- but at around 7:05 it turns out that I have to take some medication or else not be able to walk by myself, and the taking of those pills means I won't be able to eat anything in the next couple of hours. So now I have to cancel the third ADR with 55 minutes to spare.

As I said previously, I think my best bet is to restrain myself to a single ADR per night and try to stick to restaurants that will have at least something small and bland I can probably eat even if my stomach is uncooperative. And on the nights that my ADR is somewhere I'm really excited about, I'll sleep late, take it easy, hit the park late in the afternoon and generally do whatever I can do avoid having to take medication that's going to make me sick. I can always stick to the usual plan of attempting to walk-in to the other restaurants without an ADR, ones that are probably not a good idea to make the assumption that I could eat there on a normal evening (hello, Morocco), but say one afternoon I'm having a really easy day and find myself with a craving for spicy peppers... it's not usually that hard to get into the restaurants that specialize in unusual ethnic cuisine, at least not if you try at strange times of day when most people aren't eating. It's the more mainstream popular restaurants that I'm shut out of without an ADR, and those are the ones that I have a better chance of being able to keep the reservation to begin with because the menus include dishes that even the pickiest eaters can manage.

It's the best compromise I can come up with, anyway.

Jenni
 
Whatever arrangement that you come up with, I hope that you have a wonderful time. I love dinner while on vacation but for some reason it seems that meals at Disney are even more enjoyable. Best of luck and please let us know how things worked out.
 
See where I'm getting at here? My question, after all of this totally boring background information... exactly how horrible would it be, on a scale of 1 to 10, for me to make multiple ADRs for the same day with the specific intention of choosing the one that sounds best to me when the time comes and cancelling the others, or cancelling all of them if I'm not able to eat at all?
Assuming 1 is low and 10 is high - because you don't specify - seven? Eight? Nine? Even cancelling a dinner reservation at 11 AM prevents Guests like the poster above, who has food allergies and NEEDS to make arrangements with the chef 24 hours in advance, from replacing you for the cancelled reservation.
Some alternatives:
- Choose ONE table service meal each day/evening, make a reservation, and have backup counter service plans.
- Depending when you visit, same-day reservations may be available at a variety of table service locations - see Guest Relations, or just check at any restaurant podium. It doesn't even have to be the one where you want to eat.
- Buffets

If you didn't tell anyone, no one but you would know that you have multiple ADR's
Disney's computer reservations system would know - and potentially cancel anything that appears to be a duplicate reservation.
 
I think your choice of one ADR per day is wise. You have a shot at making a few of them, and sometimes you can even call from your cell and change ADRs the day of. I've done it. And sometimes you might end up cancelling that one and snacking on counter service later. But then again, I am not in your shoes.

I will say that many travelers have the Choose-an-ADR difficulty. For a multitude of reasons, people may or may not make them. For us, we cut our budget by NOT buying parkhopping. It's expensive for a family of 6. So if we end up NOT going to the park our ADR was at, we end up without an ADR we can attend.

Also, have a special needs dd. She sometimes can only handle 2 hours in the park, then she is toast. If the ADR was in that park, we can't attend. Ideally, we'd make a backup ADR at our resort each day but instead, we make do with Food Court on those days.

I do want to thank you for at least considering this carefully! To me, it says a ton about your character. You are obviously carefully weighing your needs and wants against others'. Thank you for that!
 


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