More updated Fastpass+ information

[2Tiggies]

Yes, but you will have to worry about remembering those times since the band won't have a display to remind you of your times. Many will have a smart phone to consult to remind them of their times. Many won't.

yes and unless I missed the memo, there is no wifi if you are between parks and not at a resort. Not sure about the TTC. Is there wifi there?

 

[Cyrano]

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[CuteAsMinnie]

People born between 1989 and 2000 are all teens or 20 something's....I can't believe Disney would target them to the exclusion of 40 something's (read older people with more financial resources - in general). But, being a 40 something, I can tell you, I am relatively tech savvy and can probably handle anything Disney throws at me.

That is relatively the Next Generation age group stated by Disney either in the patent or elsewhere, but it was their statement.

 

[2Tiggies]

We are a family of 5 who has visited WDW many times. Our last trip was in June of 2011. Our next trip is booked for June of 2013.

Also, I wonder how it would affect the rides we want to use Babyswap for. Will the end the Babyswap ? How time consuming will it be to schedule the attractions we want to see? Especially for The Magic Kingdom, there is so much to do there.

I can't see it affecting rider swap for babies so I don't think you have anything to worry about.

I agree - there is lots to do at MK and most of us share at least some of your concerns so you are not alone. I think what is making things so intense at the moment is it's a hot topic of interest and discussion but we have so little factual information to go on. There are just so many unknowns and signs pointing to potential obstacles for those of us who have a system for tackling our planning that it has us a bit worked up at the moment

 

[ManyMinnie]

Ooooh, oooh, that's me!!!

10...9...8...7...6...

 

[ManyMinnie]

Honestly, I'm not a hard core planner, so I'm a neutral party on the fastpass thing. I do have a couple of thoughts though.
Wouldn't it be impossible to use fastpass + in conjunction with the regular fastpass due to the magic band? You need a ticket to get a traditional fastpass. I doubt they are going to shell out more money to change all the current machines.
It would be a much greener method of distributing fastpasses. Paperless and inkless. I guess in that aspect, they will be saving some money, and we won't have to worry about looking for the little slips of paper

Yes. You have to use one or the other, according to what Disney has stated.

 

[meredith1]

I just love the optimism of everyone who believes they will able to get the afternoon/evening times for TSMM.

This is the part I am most interested to see rolled out.

Sure hope I have to eat a big serving of crow on this one. Becuase that will mean we all got what we wanted.

LOL-that's best case scenario to get it in the evening. Honestly, I'm not that into it all to care one way or the other. I'll take it anyway they give me.

 

[LaurenT]

That is relatively the Next Generation age group stated by Disney either in the patent or elsewhere, but it was their statement.

Not questioning it - but if they're targeting 20 somethings to the exclusion of the 30 and 40 (and 50) somethings, they do so to their own detriment.

 

[ManyMinnie]

Not questioning it - but if they're targeting 20 somethings to the exclusion of the 30 and 40 (and 50) so etchings, they do so to their own detriment.

Yup, 'cause they're the ones with the money.

 

[The Rovang Gang]

I'm torn...obviously being able to reserve fireworks viewing places and major attractions ahead of time would be nice...but I don't think it would be worth it if you only get 3 per day! I know we use more than that per day and would not want to limit ourselves to 3. I'll be interested to see how this all rolls out because I just can't believe they'd do away with the current FP system when it works so well... There's gotta be something that we're not hearing that'll make this new FP+ system worth it!

I'm just curious how to reserve a parade viewing spot. Are we talking about parade-viewing dinners like Wishes or pieces of curb?

 

[Robo]

Not questioning it - but if they're targeting 20 somethings to the exclusion of the 30 and 40 (and 50) so etchings, they do so to their own detriment.

You see this frequently at the corporate level.

The "suits" ask the padawans to tell them about the cool new thing.

Then, after everyone agrees that it's "*****," then the suits assign the
creation of the new "***** project" to the padawans, and big bucks start
funding it.

Months later, padawans preview the "***** project" to the suits.

Suits, of course, don't get it, but hey, it's GOT to be cool as that was the whole point, no?

So, more bucks roll into the "***** project" and it gets set in concrete.

NOW, we're ready for the grand public announcement.
THAT comes from the suits.

The announcement is not exactly CLEAR, of course.
(Not primarily because of secrecy, but because the suit doesn't fully understand what the project is
or how it works... never has.)

So, armed with very little clear background info from the grand announcement,
those who are the intended "beneficiaries" of the "***** project" start to ask questions.

Since the padawan creators had never ever actually EXPERIENCED what really happens on the front lines, the intended "beneficiaries" of the "***** project" questions are dismissed... as them not fully understanding the magnitude of the blessing about to be poured down their throats Oops, I mean "offered unto them."

Next, they start to implement the "***** project" in the form of dipping-toes-into-the-water "tests."

It's at this point the intended "beneficiaries" really begin to ask the tough what/why/where questions and the suits...
restate what was said at "last April's announcement" (because that's as much as the suits know about it, to this day.)

What happens next is always the hard part to predict.

Could be:

A. The intended "beneficiaries" try the real-deal rollout and are happy.
Goodness, light and joy prevail. Big bonuses. Promotions, padawans start wearing suits.

B. The intended "beneficiaries" try the real-deal rollout and are NOT happy.
Finger-pointing. Suits duck and throw pink slips. Padawans go to work for JCP advertising dept.

C. The tests are delayed and delayed and delayed.
Due to unforeseen circumstances...

The intended "beneficiaries" never get to try the real-deal...

and are happy.



-Burma Shave

 

[mesaboy2]

You see this frequently at the corporate level.

The "suits" ask the padawans to tell them about the cool new thing.

Then, after everyone agrees that it's "*****," then the suits assign the
creation of the new "***** project" to the padawans, and big bucks start
funding it.

Months later, padawans preview the "***** project" to the suits.

Suits, of course, don't get it, but hey, it's GOT to be cool as that was the whole point, no?

So, more bucks roll into the "***** project" and it gets set in concrete.

NOW, we're ready for the grand public announcement.
THAT comes from the suits.

The announcement is not exactly CLEAR, of course.
(Not primarily because of secrecy, but because the suit doesn't fully understand what it is or how it works... never has.)

So, armed with very little clear background info from the grand announcement,
those who are the intended "beneficiaries" of the "***** project" start to ask questions.

Since the padawan creators had never ever actually EXPERIENCED what really happens on the front lines, the intended "beneficiaries" of the "***** project" questions are dismissed... as them not fully understanding the magnitude of the blessing about to be poured down their throats Oops, I mean "offered unto them."

Next, they start to implement the "***** project" in the form of dipping toes into the water "tests."

It's at this point the intended "beneficiaries" really begin to ask the tough what/why/where questions and the suits...
restate what was said at "last April's announcement" (because that's as much as the suits know about it, to this day.)

What happens next is always the hard part to predict.

Could be:

A. The intended "beneficiaries" try the real-deal and are happy.
Goodness, light and joy prevail. Big bonuses. Promotions, padawans start wearing suits.

B. The intended "beneficiaries" try the real-deal and are NOT happy.
Finger-pointing. Suits duck and throw pink slips. Padawans go to work for JCP advertising dept.

C. The tests are delayed and delayed and delayed.
Due to unforeseen consequences..
The intended "beneficiaries" never get to try the real-deal... and are happy.

-Burma Shave

Bwahahaha!

 

[Robo]

I'm just curious how to reserve a parade viewing spot. Are we talking about parade-viewing dinners like Wishes or pieces of curb?

During the tests, parade-viewing was from a reserved section of "curb."

 

[JustAKid]

During the tests, parade-viewing was from a reserved section of "curb."

You would think this addition in and of itself would be enough of a hassle to NOT do the FP+. How in the world are they going to work this out? Cones? Tape? A reserved section? If I were like the MANY people who visit and are un-researched on the WDW experience, I would be SO upset about the fact that I couldn't watch the parade because all the curbs are reserved up.

 

[mesaboy2]

You would think this addition in and of itself would be enough of a hassle to NOT do the FP+. How in the world are they going to work this out? Cones? Tape? A reserved section? If I were like the MANY people who visit and are un-researched on the WDW experience, I would be SO upset about the fact that I couldn't watch the parade because all the curbs are reserved up.

Tests reserved a roped-off, choice section on the parade route.

 

[2Tiggies]

You would think this addition in and of itself would be enough of a hassle to NOT do the FP+. How in the world are they going to work this out? Cones? Tape? A reserved section? If I were like the MANY people who visit and are un-researched on the WDW experience, I would be SO upset about the fact that I couldn't watch the parade because all the curbs are reserved up.

They did a trial run of this quite some time back IIRC and I seem to recall there were areas around the Hub that were roped off for this purpose. I may be totally wrong here but I'm sure I read about it

 

[Robo]

You would think this addition in and of itself would be enough of a hassle to NOT do the FP+. How in the world are they going to work this out? Cones? Tape? A reserved section? If I were like the MANY people who visit and are un-researched on the WDW experience, I would be SO upset about the fact that I couldn't watch the parade because all the curbs are reserved up.

Tests reserved a roped-off, choice section on the parade route.

They did a trial run of this quite some time back IIRC and I seem to recall there were areas around the Hub that were roped off for this purpose.

Yup.

They would limit the amount of curb space reserved.

There would only be a limited number of parade FP's available per parade performance.

 

[2Tiggies]

Thanks Mesaboy2 - you were too fast for me

I would personally rather have FPs as they are and wait in my spot of choice an hour or so in advance of parades and fireworks. I figure I can save more time that way over the course of a day than being limited to 3 FP's, one of which is used up for preferred parade viewing

 

[Rosanne]

You see this frequently at the corporate level.

The "suits" ask the padawans to tell them about the cool new thing.

Then, after everyone agrees that it's "*****," then the suits assign the
creation of the new "***** project" to the padawans, and big bucks start
funding it.

Months later, padawans preview the "***** project" to the suits.

Suits, of course, don't get it, but hey, it's GOT to be cool as that was the whole point, no?

So, more bucks roll into the "***** project" and it gets set in concrete.

NOW, we're ready for the grand public announcement.
THAT comes from the suits.

The announcement is not exactly CLEAR, of course.
(Not primarily because of secrecy, but because the suit doesn't fully understand what the project is
or how it works... never has.)

So, armed with very little clear background info from the grand announcement,
those who are the intended "beneficiaries" of the "***** project" start to ask questions.

Since the padawan creators had never ever actually EXPERIENCED what really happens on the front lines, the intended "beneficiaries" of the "***** project" questions are dismissed... as them not fully understanding the magnitude of the blessing about to be poured down their throats Oops, I mean "offered unto them."

Next, they start to implement the "***** project" in the form of dipping-toes-into-the-water "tests."

It's at this point the intended "beneficiaries" really begin to ask the tough what/why/where questions and the suits...
restate what was said at "last April's announcement" (because that's as much as the suits know about it, to this day.)

What happens next is always the hard part to predict.

Could be:

A. The intended "beneficiaries" try the real-deal rollout and are happy.
Goodness, light and joy prevail. Big bonuses. Promotions, padawans start wearing suits.

B. The intended "beneficiaries" try the real-deal rollout and are NOT happy.
Finger-pointing. Suits duck and throw pink slips. Padawans go to work for JCP advertising dept.

C. The tests are delayed and delayed and delayed.
Due to unforeseen circumstances...

The intended "beneficiaries" never get to try the real-deal...

and are happy.



-Burma Shave

That's the best laugh I've had in days. Especially the part I bolded. Thanks, Robo. I needed that!

 

[mom2rtk]

They did a trial run of this quite some time back IIRC and I seem to recall there were areas around the Hub that were roped off for this purpose. I may be totally wrong here but I'm sure I read about it

Yep. As parade time nears, you will see posts and rope laying about the inner hub area right up across from the castle. Don't sit there, as you could waste a great deal of time "saving" a spot you will be asked to move from. From the first day this thing goes live, that section of prime parade viewing real estate will no longer be available to anyone unwilling to spend one of their 3 FP slots for the day on it.

I'm not ever going to do this. Since I like to photograph the parade, I want a curbside seat, even if it means I need to stake out a spot 2 hours in advance. And with reserved viewing, may folks still are not curbside.

My guess is that they believe this and reserved Wishes viewing are going to be the hottest ticket in town. Becuase they were the first things to "sell out" in tests. But that's only because during the test regular FP rights stayed in place. Folks used the FP+ reservations to do do the things they couldn't do with regular FP. If that is not the case when this goes live, then it was an apples to oranges comparison.