That is precisely what I have been attempting to do, specifically, in this case, highlighting how the criticisms are way out of proportion with the reality of the impact of the changes.
Of course they should be free to shut the monorail down. They should be free to dismantle the whole thing, if they so choose.Capitalism and free enterprise.
Accept it or move on.
It doesn't matter what the real reason for the change is. Complaining about it will not likely make any difference, the change is probably here to stay.
It really is that simple.
My response is not intended to try and make me sound intelligent; I'm just a dumb canuck.
An awful lot of people did, do, and will continue to pay rack rate, too though - with or without an incentive. It's not a matter of "tomayto/tomahto"; there's never been free dining, it's always been the dining plan free, despite what people choose to call it.GadgetRick said:
If one is unhappy with something - the value or the product - the reasonable response is to not purchase that thing. Not as many people as you seem to think are unhappy paying rack rate for the room and getting the dining plan free (see my example on a recent page, where four people over 9 in a Value room pay less for the room than the QSDP would cost or for the room and the DDP add-on than the DDP would cost).Ok, you are correct, technically, it's free. Sort of like when you go to the store and get a buy one get one free item. Yes, you're getting a free item but you are paying a premium to get that free item. Sometimes it makes sense (money-wise) and other times it doesn't.
What we're saying is, it's free in that there's not a line item you pay for it but you are paying for it in the price of the room/Photopass/whatever else you have to do to get it. And besides, so many people are unhappy with the food and the plan in general, it's seeming less and less free.
But even "free dining plan" is different from "free dining".
Why not just let each poster worry about sounding intelligent themselves, instead of trying to make it sound like you can declare perspectives you disagree with as unintelligent? I don't see any good coming from you continually trying to drive the discussion toward disparaging me personally. It is just appears that you're unwilling to discuss anything with me, and instead will just reply to anything I post with some mud-slinging at me. It's unseemly.
I'm assessing the issue rationally. I'm sorry if that annoys you. Please feel free to ignore my messages if you don't care for that kind of discussion.
Yes, that specific statement was just my opinion. Very true. There are other things I've posted which were a bit broader, i.e., reasonable conclusions about how the typical guest will perceive things. Still an opinion, of course, but a bit different in context. And I am pretty sure that I pointed that out earlier in the thread, that our individual opinions are insignificant, and even the opinion, specifically, of DIS board members as a group, doesn't matter much - that we're too small and specialized a group to have our collective perspective reflect the general public on matters-Disney.
However, the characterization of this information as "a lie" is one of the issues being discussed. Something cannot be a lie if it is a matter of perspective. When Disney says, "for our guests' better enjoyment" that cannot be rebutted on objective grounds. You don't have to agree with their assessment in that regard, but you can't characterize that as a "lie" because you disagree.
So how do you know this if those people are being ignored? Just curious.One thing I'll say for this thread -- it has reaffirmed my previous poster "ignore" selections...
What could be called reasonable can also often be in the eyes of the beholder. Plus should our opinions be so quickly discounted? While we might know more than the average Disney visitor and might in turn react more strongly, we are also more prone to defend and forgive this corporation.
One thing I'll say for this thread -- it has reaffirmed my previous poster "ignore" selections...
Another method...How does one do that again?
Hmm, you were the one who started chiming in on people's posts (mine included) where you try to sound intelligent by picking apart the post rather than discuss the issue. Others are here discussing the issue, you're here discussing who knows what most of the time....
