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I had to gently get onto a boy yesterday in my room. We were discussing the Nemo ride at Disneyland and the parks in general and he said he lived just so close to Disneyland! I definitely spend time reminding these kids not to give out that info.;)
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Yes they are really cracking down on us. I recently got a 2 hour ban for saying "my computer is loading the rooms slow because I am on a land line"

I am not sure how that is personal information. I just don't have a fast computer connection.

I see people say a lot worse things everyday, and they don't disappear as fast as I did.

So moral of the story Don't Say "LAND LINE" in VMK.

Oh Fly! I am so sorry.

Get real VMK! I am on land line is not personal info.

I had a kid call me a bad name in pirates today and I reported this is what I got:

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but you say things that in no way in most peoples reality could possibly be personal info and you get a ban!

WAKE UP!:surfweb:

get your priorities in order.
 
Thanks for the reminder. A few weeks ago I found a friend the same age as me (not very many college students playing VMK) and we were sharing what classes we were taking, where we worked, etc. I shouldn't have done that, yikes.
Ahh yes, I am one of those few college kids that plays VMK. Just had to get that in lol ;).

I agree with Mal on her statement that the only real personal information that could be really harmful is your name, #'s, etc. I think as long as people aren't giving away information like that - it shouldn't be a big deal. And I agree as well if someone playing the game can figure out where exactly it is I live by what we are allowed to say and what I have said in VMK, SO BE IT!
 
I do think they go overboard, but some of these kids are way too trusting. I've had a kid on my friends list tell me he was going on vacation during his spring break, when they were leaving, how many days they would be gone, where they were going, how far a drive that was, and what a pain his cousin is. (not all at once, over several conversations.) No telling what all he shared with others. While I couldn't locate him with this information, with only a little more information someone who was determined to find him probably could.
Another kid on my list whom I have only seen a couple of times (I have a lot of those - it's easier to show someone where to start quest and things that way), asked if he could trust me. I said yes, then he asked me to hold some items for him to trade to his other character. I did, but gave him a warning that he shouldn't do that, someone will end up taking his stuff.
The main problems we seem to be having from staff over 'personal information', is that common sense isn't very common, and what is meant by personal info has not been agreed upon by them.
 

Well, the person with whom I was talking and I were specifically telling each other about facts about where we lived. I know for example, exactly what town in Florida he lives near and he knows very, very close to where I live. We did this by dictionary dancing our little selves to death.

Did I break the rules? Yes. Did I give out personal information? Yes. Could he have found me from the information I gave him? Not from within VMK, but certainly with information from VMK and from here. Did he receive a warning? No. Is that fair? No. As a leader, am I held to a higher standard. Yes.

Life goes on. This has turned into yet another ugly debate. I just wanted to remind everyone to follow the rules, whether you agree with them or not.

Mods, please close.
 
I really don't see any ugly debate happening. No one is arguing with each other. In fact, everyone has said that identifying information is wrong. What people are upset with are things where certain statements that cannot be identifying or even give away an age (i.e. the whole "I'm out of school" thing) are being treated as identifying statements and then people are being banned for it.

Yes, Dara, based on what you've said, I do think what you did went WAY overboard. And I do think that VMK was right to warn you (although honestly it's frustrating to me to see a lack of consistency...why do some people only get warnings for giving away such specific information yet others get bans for giving away even less info? But anyway I digress). No one here is debating the rules. No one is saying "they should be allowed to give personal information". What's upsetting people is seeing that even the most non-identifiable statement can get someone banned nowadays.
 
Actually Dara, I don't think this debate is ugly at all. I read the whole thread and I see lots of useful information here. As for VMK, I know the limitations can be bothersome but they are for a reason. Goodness knows that I would love to speak in VMK like an adult, but also know that many words and word combinations can have be used in harmful and ugly ways. As a mother and grandmother I for one am glad VMK at least tries to protect children from such behavior. As for personal information, I never give it out ever on VMK, not even to friends! But that also applies to all web sites I frequent! To be honest though there have been times I almost slipped up, like when someone comes up to me and says "your cute, are you taken?" or "will you go out with me?" You don't know how bad I would like to say something like "young man (or young lady), I am a grandmother for pete sake! But alas I roll my eyes politely tell them no or I don't do that, and remind them that it is against VMK values. I don't know if this has ever been brought up before but, since VMK is a site designed for children, wouldn't that be just the place that would attract predators? For instance I also play on Pogo and other sites, NOT targeted mainly to children. Now if I was some sicko looking to "befriend" a child, would Pogo or VMK seem more a more likely source. Well I would say VMK. Perhaps it is for just that reason that the restrictions (values) on VMK are held to a much higher standard? I can think of many other reasons, but even if it is for just this one, then I agree, support and applaud VMK for their effort!
 
This is not an ugly debate. These are a bunch of VKMers discussing the topic you opened. ;)
 
I have to agree with MAL. They are concentrating on the wrong things. They need to put a stop to:
  • taken
  • virtual dating
  • adult content
  • mommy
  • true personal information
  • name calling
  • the obvious cussing that is covered by ###
  • etc

Saying you have a land line, you live on the west cost, it is hot, etc tells nothing aboout where you are. If somebody could find me by that then they are real good and they deserve to have me for all their efforts. (I am an adult and that was sarcasm by the way)
 
This really TICKS me off!!!

Personal info is not sharing with others what the weather is like where you live, what you do for a living, that you attend school or what bloody color your darn eyes are!


Personal info is:

your real name
your real phone number
your real home or work address
where you attend school or the name of your school

and I will even go so far as to say your IM id but never in a million years is it I live on the EAST Coast...if by some chance on Gods Green earth someone can find me by that then have at it!



I also agree with you Mal!!! I diffinitily think that vmk goes over board... one time my DH got one... and I had just came off the pan ride? didn't know anythign..but all of a sudden this messages popped up saying it was a warning! A warning about what? What did i do? Real information is like you said...

I will admitt that sometimes we do get more relax with our close friends more than we should! But unless we are giving out real information like real name real phone number...things like that..then there should be no warmnings! It just isn't right.

Now what does makes me mad..is how these young ones and the language they are using and I see no one getting in trouble! I think the lanaguage on vmk has gotten really bad.. and yet they care more about trying to give warning or bans for something i don't think is real information! Or the taken thing! If vmk wants to clamp down then they should spend more time listinging to the young kids on here..and the words they use..it terrible.

And Dara..I don't think this is an ugly discussion. You were just trying to make a statement to remind people. Its just us disers talking about things... but I don't believe it was ugly and I read them all! I am sorry to hear that you got the warning... and sorry to hear the other person didn't..not fair at all! But I do agree with Mal!
 
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