Minimum payments and you

WatchinCaptKangaroo

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I've seen quite a few people posting in a panic about how credit card companies will be trippling their minimum payments in a month or so.

I just got off the phone with two different companies and wanted to pass along some info:

1) It is up to the institution if they will do this or not. One of mine will not, the other will only do it for high interest rates (high risk members).

2) They have to notify you 60 days in advance if they are going to change your payments.

So don't panic. Call your credit card company and ask them what they are doing about this and if you will be effected. And while you're on the phone with them ask them about lowering your APR.
 
Check the arithmatic. If you have a $5,000 balance with an 18% (1.5% monthly) rate and a required minimum payment of 2% (which lots of banks have now) you would have $75 interest and a $100 payment, which applies $25 to the principal. This would take 200 months (16-2/3 years) to pay off.

Change the minimum payment to 3% would increase the payment to $150 and the principal payment to $75, which would pay off in 66 months (or 5.5 years).

This is actually a simplification that does not take into consideration that as the principal balance goes down the interest amount will go down, but also the required minimum payment will go down.

Just for the fun of it, call your bank and ask how long, under the current interest rate and minimum payment rules, it would take for you to pay off the entire amount if you only made minimum payments; then ask them how long it would take to pay it off if you the minimum payment was increased from 2% to 3%. Then, if you really want to be frightened, ask them the amount of total interest you would pay under each scenario.

Mike
(CPA Retired)
 
I pay well over my minimum but I pay less then if it was tripled. A tripled payment would equate to a very bad thing for me.

I posted my OP to squelsh some of the panic ridden posts that are going on about this increase.
 
I posted this in a mega thread below, but..

From the Boston Globe

Credit card minimum payments going up
By Michelle Singletary | September 25, 2005

There is a lot of misinformation being circulated about an industrywide change in credit card minimum payments.

One reader from Atlanta asked: ''I heard recently that when the new bankruptcy law goes into effect in October, our credit card minimum payments will double. Is there any truth to this rumor?"

This is a frustrating financial myth that keeps popping up. Specifically, people are asking me if it's true that minimum credit card payments will jump to a mandatory 4 percent.

The fact is by early next year many credit card users will see their minimum required payments go up. Some have seen a bump already. But the hike has nothing to do with the new Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act, which takes effect Oct. 17. Despite what you may have heard, a change in how much you have to pay on your credit card bill is not covered in this law.

Companies are increasing minimum payments as a result of new credit card lending guidelines issued by the board of governors of the Federal Reserve System, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, and Office of Thrift Supervision.

In 2003, the agencies issued the guidelines to banks and thrifts as a result of what they considered inappropriate credit card marketing and account-management practices.

For years the minimum payment on credit balances has been about 2 percent. With such a low requirement some people find they don't make much of a dent in their principal debt. Regulators told lenders they had become concerned that competitive pressures and a desire for issuers to ''preserve outstanding balances" have contributed to an easing of minimum payment requirements in recent years. The result of course is that it takes years for consumers to pay down their outstanding debt.

''We thought that was something that wasn't right," said Dean DeBuck, a spokesman for the Office of the Comptroller. ''The minimum payment should have some effect on reducing the debt."

Here's what could happen if you pay the average 2 percent minimum payment on a $10,000 credit card debt. At 18 percent interest, it will take you about 58 years to be rid of your debt. In that time, you will pay $28,930.64 in interest, according to a calculator at Bankrate.com that shows people the true cost of making minimum payments.

Regulators have not specifically required credit card issuers to boost minimum payments to 4 percent. Instead they recommended minimum payments be set so that people could pay off their balances in a ''reasonable" amount of time. It seems that the word ''reasonable" caused some confusion. So the regulators issued a clarification that the minimum payment must cover interest, fees, and at least 1 percent of the outstanding balance each month, DeBuck said.

''Because banks were having trouble deciding what was reasonable, we have gravitated toward 1 percent of the principal," DeBuck said. ''This is not a hard and fast rule and banks may establish other payment amounts."

Many cardholders have already begun to see the change. For example, MBNA Corp.'s old policy required consumers to pay their finance charges, fees (if any), plus $15 or 2.25 percent of their balance, whichever was less. The company's new policy requires cardholders to pay finance charges, fees, and 1 percent of their balance. For those who were customers before July 1, the change applies beginning with their January 2006 payment. For those who got a card after July, the new formula was applied immediately, according to MBNA spokesman Jim Donahue.

Donahue said the policy change won't affect many of their customers.

''More than 95 percent of MBNA customers always pay more than minimum every month," Donahue said. ''Of those who do pay the minimum, very few do so for more than two months in a row."

Your minimum payment will depend on your credit issuer. Although some people have seen their minimum payment rise to as much as 4 percent, other companies are strictly following the interagency guideline.
 

WatchinCaptKangaroo said:
I've seen quite a few people posting in a panic about how credit card companies will be trippling their minimum payments in a month or so.

I just got off the phone with two different companies and wanted to pass along some info:

1) It is up to the institution if they will do this or not. One of mine will not, the other will only do it for high interest rates (high risk members).

2) They have to notify you 60 days in advance if they are going to change your payments.

So don't panic. Call your credit card company and ask them what they are doing about this and if you will be effected. And while you're on the phone with them ask them about lowering your APR.

You're correct. Some are increasing from 2% to 4%, some less than 4% and some it depends on your interest rate. People shouldn't panic, they should do what you did....get on the phone. If your payments are going to double, try and re-negotiate your interest rate, or work out a payment schedule. CC companies don't want to lose your business. Many will work with you. And if you're a person who makes minimum payments or slightly above that....they definitely don't want to lose you.
 


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